Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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When in reality, he is just a sad old conman who has ripped of hundreds (thousands?) of gullible conspiracy theorists with promises of billions of dollars and debt written off for free. All for a small up front payment, of course.
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What do you think he is?
 
I just thought he had actually bought into the FOTL thing.
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He was too inconsistent in his approach for him to have really believed it, also the fact that he never actually practiced what he preached was also a dead giveaway.

The only thing he was consistent on was his inconsistency. ;)
He had the same old mantra regarding someone governing him without his consent.
It was totally self defeating, he claimed to be able to withdraw consent yet in the same breath claimed anyone couldn't ignore his withdrawal of consent.
he normally then threw in a "rape" scenario believing it added weight to his argument. (a rapist cant ignore his victims withdrawal of consent)
Fact is in the scenario Menard was the rapist not the victim because he was the one ignoring the law.
 
He was too inconsistent in his approach for him to have really believed it, also the fact that he never actually practiced what he preached was also a dead giveaway.
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But he had no qualms about advocating others to try these theories out, presumably while he watched from the sidelines and chastised them for using the "wrong" words when they were unsuccessful?

Despicable.
 
The dope clock is still running!

It is day 29 since Fez Boy filed his magic papers and I haven’t gotten one scrap of paper from the courts, heard one peep from my internet and email providers, or in any other way been effected.

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The Palmernator said:
Ah, took me a while but I get it now. See, I always approached this from the point of view that he really believed all this Freeman stuff, that the courts were corrupt, that Admiralty jurisdiction was they way in which all the courts worked, that you could hypen-dot-colon your name and that you would get away with it etc. ad nauseum.

When in reality, he is just a sad old conman who has ripped of hundreds (thousands?) of gullible conspiracy theorists with promises of billions of dollars and debt written off for free. All for a small up front payment, of course.

And now he has been found out he is just reverting to type.

Makes FAR more sense now! D'oh! Are all the other FOTL gurus just like this?
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Of course Menard wants his marks to think he is in the trenches with them.

He was not above concocting a fanciful story claiming he had told a cop about to bust for public drinking that he was a freeman on the land and not subject to the public drinking laws. Laughingly, Fez Boy claimed the cop used his cruiser’s computer to look him up in the records and was mystified to find that B.C.’s highest authorities had put out an order not to detain, arrest or prosecute him without their expressed, written orders.

It was hall pass for life little Bobby had always wanted! So he just made the story up!

El Fezzarino must have forgotten the details this tall tale because he repeated it in a YouTube lecture some time later, except this time the freeman lecturing the cop was one of his neophytes.

The poor stoner can’t remember which lie is using today.
 
jargon buster said:
The only thing he was consistent on was his inconsistency. ;)
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I've argued with one that subscribed to the 'not a person' theory and tried to get them to explain exactly why they can turn it on/off when convenient. Usually the example was pointing to the forum's TOS they were posting in that had the word "person" in it.

Inconsistency is consistent with the freeman way of life.
 
LordEd said:
I've argued with one that subscribed to the 'not a person' theory and tried to get them to explain exactly why they can turn it on/off when convenient. Usually the example was pointing to the forum's TOS they were posting in that had the word "person" in it.

Inconsistency is consistent with the freeman way of life.
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Freemen, who borrowed the “fictitious person” theory in the first place, won’t accept that they are, as English law has long recognized, natural persons such as God formed them. As natural persons they are subject to the rule of law.

Read Blackstone, FOTLers, not Menard!

In plain language that means, the state didn’t create their “persona” and doesn’t need to in order to apply the law to them.

Logic impaired freemen would have us believe that governments have pointlessly developed elaborate tricks in order to achieve the authority it already has as a matter of law, history and custom.

Freemen come up with all these wacky theories about adhesion contracts, enjoinder, birth certificates, etc, because they don’t have the self-knowledge to see that their real and only beef is they don’t want to recognize any law or any authority.

It being the case that the internet supplies a seemingly endless supply of poorly socialized losers whose domineering daddy’s dropped on their heads we can assume that Menard will have a supply of marks until the next anti-government celebrity/guru comes along to out shine him.

Frankly, Bong Boy ain’t too much now, so it won’t be hard for some young buck to come along and put him in the shadows.
 
jargon buster said:
I think you are giving him too much credit. :)
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Probably so. But, a dead whale on flat car will draw a crowd.

I realize that scruffy clothes, poor grooming and stream of conciseness presentations are in fashion in the freeman subculture nowadays. But Menard is pushing the style envelope, as well as imparting a massive contradiction.

If one actually watches Menard in action one can see that he presents himself as a hate filled, bloated, stoner, has been pretending to preach love, self control, relevancy and competency.
 
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It does say "Safe and Effective, Well Researched", so i'm wondering if they hired a researcher that we know...

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LordEd said:
Looks like they sell oxygen treatments and other natural preventatives or remedies. One point is 'detoxification', so I think that implies they don't take the green route.

It does say "Safe and Effective, Well Researched", so i'm wondering if they hired a researcher that we know...
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I stand corrected.
 
The dope clock is still running!

It is day 30 since Fez Boy filed his magic papers and I haven’t gotten one scrap of paper from the courts, heard one peep from my internet and email providers, or in any other way been effected.

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The dope clock is running!

It is day 31 since Fez Boy filed his magic papers and I haven’t gotten one scrap of paper from the courts, heard one peep from my internet and email providers, or in any other way been effected.

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Nowhere Man said:
(Psst... You mean "affected," not "effected.")

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Noooo. I think it is effect, Pard. :-)

From Webster’s:

Usage Discussion of EFFECT
Effect and affect are often confused because of their similar spelling and pronunciation. The verb 2affect usually has to do with pretense <she affected a cheery disposition despite feeling down>. The more common 3affect denotes having an effect or influence <the weather affected everyone's mood>. The verb effect goes beyond mere influence; it refers to actual achievement of a final result <the new administration hopes to effect a peace settlement>. The uncommon noun affect, which has a meaning relating to psychology, is also sometimes mistakenly used for the very common effect. In ordinary use, the noun you will want is effect <waiting for the new law to take effect> <the weather had an effect on everyone's mood>.

Examples of EFFECT
They are trying to effect a settlement of the dispute.
The duty of the legislature is to effect the will of the people.
When, at last, rescue is at hand, Jewitt has no hesitation in lying to his old friend and master, Maquinna, in order to effect his escape, although he does persuade the captain of the brig Lydia not to kill the chief. —Carolyn Kizer, New York Times Book Review, 21 Feb. 1988.

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Anyway, it's day 32 since our impotent fez wearing friend filed his phony papers.


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arayder said:
The dope clock is running!

It is day 31 since Fez Boy filed his magic papers and I haven’t gotten one scrap of paper from the courts, heard one peep from my internet and email providers, or in any other way been effected.

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Arayder I wonder if the Menardian's have accepted the convention of the Gregorian calendar? Or do they still operate from the Julian? If so its eleven days earlier....and oh, well maybe they've taken a page from the French revolution and started their own calendar.....hey Rob here's your next scam, convince people that they can change the calendar and just delete days that have court dates, income tax due dates, etc....I mean it madder than a box of frogs but you've have done worse
 
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