Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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LordEd said:
More legal guessing. I think the test of libel/slander is not whether a statement is true or false. The test is whether it is knowingly false and intended to cause harm.

Here would be an interesting legal defense:
1. Use the $800 document that lets you avoid legal jurisdiction
2. If it succeeds, then you have successfully applied his teachings and the court is unable to force a judgement on you without consent/jurisdiction/etc.
3. If it doesn't succeed, then you have proven the material provided is a scam and provided direct evidence that the statements were true, resulting in a win.

Of course, taking any legal advise from an internet forum is a terrible idea.
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That sounds familiar...
 
Border Reiver said:
Does Kentucky have a reciprocal agreement with Canada for the enforcement of judgements?
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I don’t know. I suspect so.

But the part I like is Menard’s thinly veined threat to send “sharks” down here to collect the judgment he has already counted in his basket. That’s just not a smart thing for him to broadcast over the web.

Let me put a wrench in Mr. Menard’s hit man fantasy and point out that his little presentation at the Vic West center was allowed to go on by the center.

So the harm would be? None?

Hear that freemen?

Your guru is pumping you for donations under false pretenses!

Dang, boys! He’s as bad as the gobernment!
 
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This will surprise absolutely no one, but Menard failed to get the court order he is bragging about. What he is proudly displaying is the draft order that the Chambers Judge/Master declined to sign.

What a tool.

More to follow, hopefully.
 
JB or D'rok perhaps one of you should keep a running list of Menard failures in his latest comedy fiasco?
 
On a related note, by a strange coincidence I just received notice of another lawsuit, this one even more bold in its scope. It didn't say who is behind it, and the incoming fax number was blocked. Not that I would be trying to track down the person who sent it. I can't say whether Mr. Menard is behind this, but it seemed like strange timing to be reading about his claim in this thread and then to recieve a notice by fax.

Here is the notice. I have tried to accurately re-create the formatting:

NOTICE​
FROM THE PEOPLE​
to ALL those in Law Enforcement​

WARNING: Work is almost complete on a class-action lawsuit against all Real Estate lawyers in Canada and then work will commence on the class-action lawsuit against all other lawyers in Canada for fraud and human rights violations amongst other criminal activities.

1. Article 6 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (“UDHR”) states, “Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law." Article 16 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR”) states, “Everyone shall have the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.” The ICCPR is legally binding on Canada and all its organs. IT IS LAW! A right is something that one can assert or waive at his or her sole option; otherwise it is a compulsion or obligation, not a right.

The people of Canada are awaking, learning and claiming or waiving their human rights, according to their will. We now understand that the statutes and Acts of the parliament of Canada and the various provincial Legislatures apply, at least for the most part, to persons. If one is a human being having waived his/her human right as aforementioned, and thus not to be recognized everywhere as a person before the law, then those statutes and Acts do not apply to them. All lawyers who purport to represent or prosecute human beings pursuant to alleged violations of statutes and Acts that apply to persons and fail to inform us of our rights are guilty of violating our natural rights and breach of trust.

Any one who, involved in enforcement or assisting in the enforcement of any statute or Act, being informed by any human being that the human being waives his/her right and/or the right of their offspring to recognition everywhere as a person before the law, and continues to proceed with such enforcement, is a human rights violator and will be held accountable. One cannot purport to be administering the law when they are violating the law. THE LAW IS THE LAW !

2. We have recently been presented with some irrefutable proof of the criminal activity of members of the Canadian Bar Association (real estate lawyers), involving land transfers and Crown Land Grants (Common Law Letters Patent contracts between the Crown and human beings). This evidence has come to us from a member in good standing of the Canadian Bar Association.

There is nothing Constitutional about the Grants/Patents, they are based in contract law and at Common Law, an estate in fee simple in a parcel of land is one transferred absolutely to a human being (man/woman) and his or her heirs, forever, without any conditions.

The Grant/Patent is the highest estate in land that can be held by a human being in a Common Law province or state. Statutes and Acts (rule of law legislation), do not apply to property privately possessed and thus privately owned pursuant to a Grant/Patent.

These rights have been systematically abrogated by the actions of members of the Canadian Bar Association. This blatant fraud of systematically eradicating our natural right to freely possess and enjoy property under Crown Grant - Letters Patent Contract, has been orchestrated by lawyers on behalf of their controlling bankers. Simply put, this means that ALL lawyers and Notaries that handle land transfers, are wittingly complicit in this fraud, for it is their duty to know the law.

The member of the Bar Association who is providing us with the aforementioned evidence/proof, who for obvious reasons wishes to remain anonymous at this time, is also providing legal guidance and assistance to us to pursue a class action suit against all practising lawyers and notaries that handle real estate transactions, and the evidence proves breach of trust, breach of fiduciary duty, and a host of other serious fraud related offences committed by every single one of them.

These lawyers have NO DEFENCE against this action when it is brought before the courts. We will not allow the lawyers and others to continue to stand behind the protective veils of their Bar Associations. Believe it or not, our source has provided information that establishes beyond doubt, that the high courts will indeed prosecute their own Bar members and in a great many instances, there are superior court judges that can hardly wait to see these injustices remedied.

3. Parents have unfettered authority over their property, their offspring, and only they, according to their will, can waive or assert their offspring’s human rights. No court, Judge, or agency such as “CFS” has such authority over a human being or their (human) offspring, nor should they. The systematic abrogation of the natural right of parents to absolute authority over their offspring and to the protection of their natural right to enjoyment of their offspring is fraud, to say the least.

All involved in ‘apprehending’ or continuing to hold our offspring or those assisting them in any way, should consider Section 322.(1) of the Criminal Code which states: (underlining is ours for emphasis),
THEFT. “Every one commits theft who fraudulently and without colour of right takes, or fraudulently and without colour of right converts to his use or to the use of another person, anything, whether animate or inanimate, with intent
(a) to deprive, temporarily or absolutely, the owner of it, or a person who has a special property or interest in it, of the thing or of his property or interest in it;

There can be no claim to colour of right now that you all have knowledge.

It is not our federal or provincial governments that have been directly abrogating our rights - it is rather the result of statutes and Acts cleverly crafted by lawyers that have duped both human beings and the various levels of government, into the false belief that statutory law somehow supersedes Common Law and International Covenants - it does not and never has!

Like the direct fraud associated with the ownership of our money system, these blatant frauds of systematically abrogating our natural/human rights and those of our offspring as well as the theft of our natural resources have been orchestrated by lawyers on behalf of their controlling bankers. Simply put, this means that ALL lawyers, and agents, whether with or without their individual knowledge, are complicit in these frauds - For it is their duty to know the law.


WOE unto you, lawyers!
For ye have taken away the key of knowledge;
Ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.
[Luke 11:52]​
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Permit me to derail for just one moment but the guy connected with the 'Servant of the Light' website has just asked me this -

"let me ask you this, as you are such a bright spark, is it possible to have anti gravity systems that repel away from gravity, also if gravity is an attraction of mass why if i stand at the side of a great mountain am i not drawn side-wards it, also if gravity is so powerful why if i travel from the earth just a few hundred miles is gravity of any sort non-existent, why when they work out the orbit of planet is gravity not part of their calculations?"

He's either a poe or a real pile of ignorant ****.

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NOTICE


FROM THE PEOPLE


to ALL those in Law Enforcement
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Hmmm. Looking like something I should take seriously then!

WOE unto you, lawyers!
For ye have taken away the key of knowledge;
Ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.
[Luke 11:52]
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All sorted then. Another win.

"let me ask you this, as you are such a bright spark, is it possible to have anti gravity systems that repel away from gravity, also if gravity is an attraction of mass why if i stand at the side of a great mountain am i not drawn side-wards it, also if gravity is so powerful why if i travel from the earth just a few hundred miles is gravity of any sort non-existent, why when they work out the orbit of planet is gravity not part of their calculations?"
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I must be a bright spark also, as that badly formatted pile of gibberish looked like it was written by a roller-skating goldfish escaping from a meth lab whilst wearing a pointy hat with the words "Jab pointy sticks into my eyes" on it.

I'd say Poe, but you never can tell with these ... folk.
 
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D'rok said:
This will surprise absolutely no one, but Menard failed to get the court order he is bragging about. What he is proudly displaying is the draft order that the Chambers Judge/Master declined to sign.

What a tool.

More to follow, hopefully.
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Hans said:
JB or D'rok perhaps one of you should keep a running list of Menard failures in his latest comedy fiasco?
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In light of Mr. Menard’s outright deception regarding his latest “legal action” I don’t think it is too much for freemen, including those who have not donated to Menard’s latest effort, to insist upon:

--- A simple statement of purpose.

--- A full account of each contributor’s donation(s) as well as an accounting of total donations.

--- Documentation of each cost and expenditure accrued in the effort.

--- An estimate and itemization of projected expenses needed to complete the effort.

--- Documentation of progress to date.

Freemanary's boasts of self-control and honest purpose would be confirmed by freemen publicly insisting upon a full accounting by Mr. Menard!
 
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strummer said:
if gravity is an attraction of mass why if i stand at the side of a great mountain am i not drawn side-wards it"
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I always feel compelled to answer factual-type questions. Hopefully its not too out of place here. All figures found using google and may not be completely accurate.

F = G (m1 m2) / r^2

m1 and m2 are masses of bodies
G is the gravitational constant 6.674x10^-11
F is force in Newtons
r is the distance between the centers of mass

Weight of a random person: 86 kg (190 lbs)
Mass of Mt. Everest: 6.399 * 10^15kg
Radius of Mt. Everest: 16093m

F = G m1 m2 / r^2
F = 6.674*10^-11 * 6.399*10^15 * 86 / (16093^2)
F = 433468.26 / 258984649
F = 0.00167 N
Same amount of force to lift 0.006 oz.

Back to the legal stuff.
 
LordEd said:
I always feel compelled to answer factual-type questions. Hopefully its not too out of place here. All figures found using google and may not be completely accurate.

F = G (m1 m2) / r^2

m1 and m2 are masses of bodies
G is the gravitational constant 6.674x10^-11
F is force in Newtons
r is the distance between the centers of mass

Weight of a random person: 86 kg (190 lbs)
Mass of Mt. Everest: 6.399 * 10^15kg
Radius of Mt. Everest: 16093m

F = G m1 m2 / r^2
F = 6.674*10^-11 * 6.399*10^15 * 86 / (16093^2)
F = 433468.26 / 258984649
F = 0.00167 N
Same amount of force to lift 0.006 oz.

Back to the legal stuff.
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So this is why people don't stick to Shaq when they stand next to him?
 
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Simply put, this means that ALL lawyers and Notaries that handle land transfers, are wittingly complicit in this fraud
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If the all-powerful notaries are in on it then resistance is futile.
 
D'rok said:
This will surprise absolutely no one, but Menard failed to get the court order he is bragging about. What he is proudly displaying is the draft order that the Chambers Judge/Master declined to sign.
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Where is this draft order being displayed?
 
JLord said:
On a related note, by a strange coincidence I just received notice of another lawsuit, this one even more bold in its scope. It didn't say who is behind it, and the incoming fax number was blocked. Not that I would be trying to track down the person who sent it. I can't say whether Mr. Menard is behind this, but it seemed like strange timing to be reading about his claim in this thread and then to recieve a notice by fax.

Here is the notice. I have tried to accurately re-create the formatting:
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Lash L, our Goddess of Legaltainment and a practicing Canadian Attorney will be greatly amused by this.......
 
D'rok said:
It's on his facebook page. He also openly admits that it hasn't been signed.

Screenshot here:

http://i.imgur.com/T0K4U.jpg?1

ETA: The hearing with Master McCallum occured on Nov 23 as indicated. It did not result in a signed order.
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Just a quick word of explanation in case anyone is wondering what is going on here.

This is not an order that was provided to Menard by the Supreme Court of BC. This is an order that Menard prepared in advance in the manner prescribed by the court and then brought to a hearing in Master McCallum's chambers on November 23. This was Menard's opportunity to argue why the order was necessary and to have it signed. He failed.

In typical Menard fashion, he is trumpeting this failure as a success and is trying to bluff and bully his way out of it. It's FOTL theatre, designed to impress the FOTL hoi-polloi.

ETA: Cross-posted with Stacey! Hope this answers your question.
 
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D'rok said:
ETA: Cross-posted with Stacey! Hope this answers your question.
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But surely no one is that thick to be fooled into believing his flop is a success?
Having said that I must remind myself we are talking about FOTLers....
 
Stacey Grove said:
But surely no one is that thick to be fooled into believing his flop is a success?
Having said that I must remind myself we are talking about FOTLers....
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"Freeman in court - Judge bows to sovereign!"

Need I say more? ;)
 
Stacey Grove said:
But surely no one is that thick to be fooled into believing his flop is a success?
Having said that I must remind myself we are talking about FOTLers....
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On a more serious note, it appears as if Menard is attempting to or has succeeded in bluffing and bullying the West Vic Community Centre into releasing information by pretending that this draft order is real.

Or at least he says that's what he did in the caption to the image. Who knows? What a tangled web he weaves...
 
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