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The crucifixion of Jesus Christ

Will you please cite, abaddon, why is it that I wrote is “blatant numerology”? Please tell us what you think is numerology.

So you know that there is hellfire. What do you think will the only true God do to those who do not believe in Him and do not obey His commandments?

Good grief, PC I quoted your numerological tomfoolery in full in that very post.

Here you go again:

Did you know that the Ionic Greek Ciphered Numeral System came into use in Greece since the third century BC? That is 300 years even before Jesus was born! When Jesus was born, it was the Romans who were the colonizers of Bethlehem. As such, the Roman numeral system was the one in used. The number 888 cannot even be derived from the name of Jesus since only the letter I in the name of Jesus (Roman spelling is IESUS) is found in this numeral system.

Did you also know that it was only in the 12th century AD that the sum would look like 888 when the Arabic numerals using the characters 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 came into general use in Europe? The number eight that we use now does not even look like the number eight in the modern Arabic numeral. There, the number 8 looks like the Greek letter lambda or an inverted V.

During the time of Jesus, the Arabic Numeral System was not used yet. The number 8 did not even look like 8 now. The Romans were in control of Jerusalem and the Roman numeral system was used. 888 was represented in this numeral system as DCCCLXXXVIII.

It would need two different numeral systems and fifteen centuries apart before this amazing revelation of 888 would be discovered in the Arabic Numeral System. And it would be another eight centuries later before the number of Jesus and the crucifixion would be manifested and confirmed—in humble post office boxes!

The name of Jesus in Greek was used because it was the Ionic Greek Ciphered Numeral system that was used wherein each letter in the Greek alphabet has a corresponding value.
 
You are wrong in saying about 8’ tall women in the UK. Angelina Imden says she is 7 feet tall. I was told that she is an heiress of the Helene Curtis fortune which she had relinquished. I became doubtful of her when she refused to correspond with me via snail mail, and that her location in England is eight hours away from the nearest city when asked by a listener of her whereabouts.

I have no idea what this is about, but there is no location in England that is 8 hours away from the nearest city unless you are talking about walking. In fact, you'd probably struggle to find any 2 populated points in England that are 8 hours apart.
 
Fascinating. Taking the midsize-model donkey (48") from the table gives a maximum load of about 140 pounds.

140 pounds was what I weighed in my mid-30s, and I'm a bit under 5'6." (I would *so* injure that donkey if I were to sit on it today, at a weight of just under 220 pounds.)

A quick analysis of BMI calculators and NBA statistics, and extrapolation based on the Metropolitan Life height and weight tables, indicates that a nominally healthy 6'8" individual, small frame, would weigh at least 180 pounds.

A 3-month old donkey wouldn't stand a chance of carrying Jesus into Jerusalem.

If you can walk on water then surely you can levitate above a donkey.


BTW: I know there are mountaineers in the UK so how can there be mountaineers if there are no mountains?/woo mode off :D
 
Are ALL of my claims proven to be false?

I have accepted that the prophecy of the 2012 Olympic Games in London failed when it ended successfully on 08-12. My consolation is that there is still the threat of a world war starting at the Spratly Islands being claimed by the Philippines. The spirit of Ama has been telling us about this war, maybe since the 1980s.

You are wrong in saying about 8’ tall women in the UK. Angelina Imden says she is 7 feet tall. I was told that she is an heiress of the Helene Curtis fortune which she had relinquished. I became doubtful of her when she refused to correspond with me via snail mail, and that her location in England is eight hours away from the nearest city when asked by a listener of her whereabouts.

Do you believe that Jesus was crucified at Passover in March or April, or Nisan 14? I disagree because of the cursing of the fig tree, the linen cloth, and the donkey. Regarding the donkey, it cannot be at Nisan 14, a spring date, because the foal, a colt (male foal), was just born then. And one cannot ride on a new born. The colt may be weaned still after at least four months, about summer.

From http://www.albertadonkeyandmule.com/pdfs/foaling-out-the-jennet.pdf : “The donkey has a thick, fluffy coat which gives the appearance of warmth and hardiness compared to the horse foal, but such is not the case. Donkey foals are not very hardy and require shelter especially for the first two to four weeks of life. If a foal becomes soaked with rain he may easily become chilled only to contract bronchitis or pneumonia which are often fatal.”

Now, the jennet or the mother donkey might have carried Jesus from Mount of Olives to the gate of Jerusalem, and the colt, from thereon. Jesus was 6’8” tall and He could be heavy for the colt. But could He not make Himself light? Have you seen the UK magician Dynamo? He is small that a muscular man can easily pick him up but he could make himself very heavy that the muscular man could not even lift him up.

You have to be bothered yourself because you claim that ALL my “various claims have proven to be false.” Why don’t you read the results of my study from 1999 to 2003 regarding what Ama revealed to be the crucifixion date of Jesus – August 17? My proving this revelation together with the May 23 birth gave me the confidence what Ama said about the world war from the Philippines. And they are logically correct, like the Aristean calendar to be implemented in 2001. Although both did not materialize, they are there and ready to happen “in His time”, in God’s time. I learned to be trusting God instead of what I think is logically correct.

Yep, keep on hanging on to the hope that 2/3rds of the human race will be wiped out to verify your faith in a faker.
 
If you can walk on water then surely you can levitate above a donkey.

If he could do that, then why didn't he just fly into Jerusalem?

ETA: come to think of it, why didn't he just fly into Jerusalem in the first place and leave the donkey out altogether?
 
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According to Ama who we talk to, Jesus said that “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” How many true Gods are there? John 17:3 says that there is only one – “the only true God”.

FYI, there was no Bible before. The Holy Bible was written by the children of the apostles who pieced together the notes of their parents and made the stories. The writers were not eyewitnesses of the accounts.

Is John 1:1 in other accounts? Is the account of the wedding at Cana in John 2 in other gospels? Is the transfiguration in the account of John?

I see. Well, carry on, then.
 
Are ALL of my claims proven to be false?

I have accepted that the prophecy of the 2012 Olympic Games in London failed when it ended successfully on 08-12. My consolation is that there is still the threat of a world war starting at the Spratly Islands being claimed by the Philippines. The spirit of Ama has been telling us about this war, maybe since the 1980s.

You are wrong in saying about 8’ tall women in the UK. Angelina Imden says she is 7 feet tall. I was told that she is an heiress of the Helene Curtis fortune which she had relinquished. I became doubtful of her when she refused to correspond with me via snail mail, and that her location in England is eight hours away from the nearest city when asked by a listener of her whereabouts.

Do you believe that Jesus was crucified at Passover in March or April, or Nisan 14? I disagree because of the cursing of the fig tree, the linen cloth, and the donkey. Regarding the donkey, it cannot be at Nisan 14, a spring date, because the foal, a colt (male foal), was just born then. And one cannot ride on a new born. The colt may be weaned still after at least four months, about summer.

From http://www.albertadonkeyandmule.com/pdfs/foaling-out-the-jennet.pdf : “The donkey has a thick, fluffy coat which gives the appearance of warmth and hardiness compared to the horse foal, but such is not the case. Donkey foals are not very hardy and require shelter especially for the first two to four weeks of life. If a foal becomes soaked with rain he may easily become chilled only to contract bronchitis or pneumonia which are often fatal.”

Now, the jennet or the mother donkey might have carried Jesus from Mount of Olives to the gate of Jerusalem, and the colt, from thereon. Jesus was 6’8” tall and He could be heavy for the colt. But could He not make Himself light? Have you seen the UK magician Dynamo? He is small that a muscular man can easily pick him up but he could make himself very heavy that the muscular man could not even lift him up.

You have to be bothered yourself because you claim that ALL my “various claims have proven to be false.” Why don’t you read the results of my study from 1999 to 2003 regarding what Ama revealed to be the crucifixion date of Jesus – August 17? My proving this revelation together with the May 23 birth gave me the confidence what Ama said about the world war from the Philippines. And they are logically correct, like the Aristean calendar to be implemented in 2001. Although both did not materialize, they are there and ready to happen “in His time”, in God’s time. I learned to be trusting God instead of what I think is logically correct.

I worry deeply about someone who thinks that is consolation of any sort.

My question is, How long will it take you to realize kaz/ama is nothing but a fraud
 
It's bad enough that you reject settled versions of history to support your theory. When it comes to history, it's true that our records are scant and that the accepted version of events probably has plenty of error in it anyway.

However, do you have to ignore knowledge of botany, zoology, and climate as well?

Fig trees have leaves but no fruit in April. It's warm at that time in Jerusalem. And foals of asses can't carry humans whether they are one month old or four months old. Perhaps the foal reference could maybe, just possibly, be that the animal was born to an ass. When horse racing season roles around, you will hear people describing the horses as "a foal of....(insert horse mom or dad here) ", such as "Secretariat is a foal of bold ruler."

I suggest going with that interpretation even it that means it doesn't give any hints about the time of year. If you insist that the foal in the Bible story was, literally, still a foal, then no one could ride it, and the whole prophecy would have to be declared ridiculous.

Of course, I suppose that a guy who could walk on water could ride a foal, but if that's the case, then it could have happened at any time of year.

Looking up the fig tree stuff, it was interesting to read some of the web pages that were hit. It seems some Christians don't really like that story. The story has Jesus walking up to a tree at a time of the year when it doesn't bear fruit, and cursing it because it has no fruit. They don't seem to think it's fair. The poor tree didn't deserve it. Some preachers explains some little known fig biology about some sort of shoots that appear prior to the actual figs, and which are, themselves, edible. If they don't have those things, they also won't have figs. This tree, they explained, diddn't have those pre-fig things, and so would not bear fruit.

In other words, take heart Christians. God himself, creator of the universe, did in fact curse a fig tree for not having figs, but the tree really did deserve it.


Yes, I “reject settled versions of history”. The August 17 crucifixion and May 23 birth of Jesus came from the spirit of Ama. I just checked them out and found both of them to be true and correct in my studies from 1999 to 2006 that is why I am steadfast on these.

Like what Ama said, “It is easier to believe in something that is wrong than what is right.”

You are familiar with the Jewish traditions. When should be the five fasts be? Could you please cite the verses that tell us when they happened?

I do not “ignore knowledge of botany, zoology, and climate”. If they do not agree with what Ama said, I check them out.

Somebody asked Ama what kind of leaves does a fig tree have. He said that they are broad and big. Is that correct?

There is a poem that Ama told us about the man who was cutting down a tree. A passerby asked why he was doing it. The man answered that its flowers withered away and the branches and leaves make a mess in his place. This is like man. If he is useless, he will be cut down. This is what the cursing of the fig tree means. It is in http://aristean.org/tula.htm , Tula No. 3.

I believe that Mark 11:13, which states, “for the time of figs was not yet”, was just added when Passover was moved to around the vernal equinox in AD 325. This is the second part that I say were added or changed.

When does a fig tree have leaves? In Summer. Not in spring. The leaf buds are just coming out after winter.

It says in the gospel of Matthew of the Holy Bible that a donkey and a colt were taken. When could the colt have been born: in spring, summer, autumn or winter? According to the link that I got, it is about spring when the foal can avail of the abundant grass. I don’t think the foal would be born in summer or autumn because the grass may not be as abundant and tender as in spring. And not in winter because it is rainy in Jerusalem when the foal may catch bronchitis or pneumonia and die. The colt maybe one, two, three, or four years old and still be called a foal or a colt. When was it born? Most likely, in spring.

Although Jesus was a big person, 6’8” high, could He not make himself light so that a colt could carry Him?
 
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There are some people present in the sessions who the spirit of Ama asked to poke through the wounds. And then He asked them if it was hard and plastic. They said that it was a bit wet and soft and fresh. It was not hard and plastic. It was not stigmata. I will look for that session and post the translation to you. So far, there are just a few who had the privilege of touching and poking through the wounds.

I remember He said that if He says that we may poke through the wounds on such and such date, after we have poked through it on such and such date, we will not be interested to come anymore. However, if He does not give any particular date, we will continue attending the sessions in the hope that one day, He may ask anyone to poke through it.
Again, where exactly did these wounds appear? And what does "hard and plastic" have to do with them? Your description is very ambiguous.
 
You have absolutely no evidence that Passover was moved to spring in 325. What happened at that time was not a shift of Passover or any other feast, but a set pattern for the intercalary month which was already being inserted as necessary. The reason for this is clear, and has been explained to you over and over again. Jews in the Diaspora could not rely on seeing the first signs of spring in Palestine to determine whether to add the intercalary month or not. Also, even those in Palestine could be fooled by mischievous people who lit fires to fool the Jewish community into adding the intercalary month or celebrating Passover at the wrong times. After 325, the intercalary month was fixed without reference to seeing the first signs of Spring so that all Jews knew exactly when to celebrate Passover - in the spring as they had done for a more than a thousand years before 325.

If you are going to argue that every verse in the bible which conflicts with your personal obsession is incorrect or added, then to be frank you may as well toss out your bible and set up your own religion, because what you are following is not Christianity.
 
I repeat, if Jesus could do this, why bother with the donkey? Why not just fly into Jerusalem?

A flying six eight Jesus.! With laser eyes! Wreaking death on the Romans, now there's a messiah I could get behind.
 
Are ALL of my claims proven to be false?

In our eyes, yes -- Every extraordinary claim you have presented to us so far, every prophesy, every character in your twisted little piece of eschatological, xenophobic piece of purple prose has been rejected by us as superstitious, uneducated, obtuse, gullible and frequently egotistical nonsense.

I have accepted that... {snip}

I don't care what you accept, Aristeo. We reject it.

My consolation is that there is still the threat of a world war...

(Springy G frowns, unclenches both Her fists, and shakes Her head at the horrifying barbarity and insensitivity of Aristeo's "consolation"...)

I'm sorely tempted to send a thread link to the war veterans' associations in your town, Aristeo. Perhaps a week or so before ANZAC Day. Essentially, you're defecating on the graves of your neighbours' dead relatives with a statement like that.

While I'm at it, I think I might just notify a few war veterans' associations in the Philippines, too. I'm sure at least one member of your family tree paid with his or her life trying to defend the land of your birth.

So cease and desist -- Immediately, and for the rest of your life. And apologize from the bottom of whatever it is you call a 'heart' for calling any war, past, present or future a "consolation."

And one cannot ride on a new born {donkey}. The colt may be weaned still after at least four months, about summer.

A donkey cannot bear any substantial burden until it attains adulthood, at the age of 4-5 years -- And it can never be ridden by a 6'8" man weighing 180 pounds or more. Epic fail.

You have to be bothered yourself because you claim that ALL my “various claims have proven to be false.” Why don’t you read the results of my study from 1999 to 2003 regarding what Ama revealed to be the crucifixion date of Jesus – August 17?

Perhaps because you have been demonstrated in this thread to be a liar who is utterly unworthy of trust. I, for one, would not trust you to clean My cats' litter boxes. Furthermore, your calculations are founded on nonsensical unsupported premises, and can be thrown in the trash without compromising humanity's body of knowledge in the slightest way.

In fact, I believe that discarding your calculations and your phony "proof" would actually improve humanity's knowledge base by removing a completely unnecessary bit of pseudo-history.

Yes, I “reject settled versions of history”.

On what basis? I don't see you as qualified to reject it. All I see is a sad old man in a little house in Australia, fidgeting in his chair and whining when a bunch of mean old skeptics tell him he's wasted his life believing in complete and utter nonsense.

Like what Ama said, “It is easier to believe in something that is wrong than what is right.”

Well, you seem to believe in things that are wrong quite easily, so perhaps Ama was speaking of you. Kindly do not project your failings on us, though -- We seem to be doing considerably better at discerning right from wrong.

Somebody asked Ama what kind of leaves does a fig tree have. He said that they are broad and big. Is that correct?

No. The leaves are longer than they are wide; therefore Ama is wrong about the leaves being broad.

Although Jesus was a big person, 6’8” high, could He not make himself light so that a colt could carry Him?

That's just plain silly, and now I know for certain that you are positively desperate to come up with an explanation for your errors even if the "explanation" makes the story even more idiotic.

At this point, Aristeo, I'm so *very* annoyed with you that I'm going to give you a taste of your own medicine.

"Although Astreja K. Odinsdóttir appears to be a middle-aged, greying woman with graduated bifocals and a wonky knee, could She not just snap Her fingers and cause Aristeo's faith to wither away like the fig tree in the Bible?"

(Springy G holds up Her right hand and smiles as She wiggles the fingers in the air) A certain Harry Callahan rant about luck is coming to mind... :p
 
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Please read about the “Historicity of Jesus” in Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_Jesus .

OK, I read it, and since you cite this link as an authority of Jesus as a Human Being, I will even quote one part of it. You claim this link as your "proof" yet it disagrees with your basic argument as to birth and death dates.

Scholars generally agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew who was born between 7 and 2 BC and died 30–36 AD.

Maybe this is a different Jesus than the one you made up?

Norm
 
I see. Well, carry on, then.

Yes, I “reject settled versions of history”. The August 17 crucifixion and May 23 birth of Jesus came from the spirit of Ama. I just checked them out and found both of them to be true and correct in my studies from 1999 to 2006 that is why I am steadfast on these.

Like what Ama said, “It is easier to believe in something that is wrong than what is right.”

You are familiar with the Jewish traditions. When should be the five fasts be? Could you please cite the verses that tell us when they happened?

I do not “ignore knowledge of botany, zoology, and climate”. If they do not agree with what Ama said, I check them out.

Somebody asked Ama what kind of leaves does a fig tree have. He said that they are broad and big. Is that correct?

There is a poem that Ama told us about the man who was cutting down a tree. A passerby asked why he was doing it. The man answered that its flowers withered away and the branches and leaves make a mess in his place. This is like man. If he is useless, he will be cut down. This is what the cursing of the fig tree means. It is in http://aristean.org/tula.htm , Tula No. 3.

I believe that Mark 11:13, which states, “for the time of figs was not yet”, was just added when Passover was moved to around the vernal equinox in AD 325. This is the second part that I say were added or changed.

When does a fig tree have leaves? In Summer. Not in spring. The leaf buds are just coming out after winter.

It says in the gospel of Matthew of the Holy Bible that a donkey and a colt were taken. When could the colt have been born: in spring, summer, autumn or winter? According to the link that I got, it is about spring when the foal can avail of the abundant grass. I don’t think the foal would be born in summer or autumn because the grass may not be as abundant and tender as in spring. And not in winter because it is rainy in Jerusalem when the foal may catch bronchitis or pneumonia and die. The colt maybe one, two, three, or four years old and still be called a foal or a colt. When was it born? Most likely, in spring.

Although Jesus was a big person, 6’8” high, could He not make himself light so that a colt could carry Him?

Hi, PC.
Have you ever seen someone 6'8''?
Do you think Spring weather is comparable in Canada and Israel?
Have you ever seen a fig tree?

Do you think the biblical injunctions against the consultation of mediums applies in the case of someone who claims to channel the voice of a non-existent saint?

So far, nothing you've posted gives any credence to your claim Passover has ever been celebrated outside Spring.
I hope you realise that your ideas about fig trees, temperatures in Jerusalem and the breeding of donkeys don't support your theory.
If you can't come up with something which doesn't involve rewriting the bible to accommodate something heard in a seance, it would be good to post it up.
 
You have absolutely no evidence that Passover was moved to spring in 325. What happened at that time was not a shift of Passover or any other feast, but a set pattern for the intercalary month which was already being inserted as necessary. The reason for this is clear, and has been explained to you over and over again. Jews in the Diaspora could not rely on seeing the first signs of spring in Palestine to determine whether to add the intercalary month or not. Also, even those in Palestine could be fooled by mischievous people who lit fires to fool the Jewish community into adding the intercalary month or celebrating Passover at the wrong times. After 325, the intercalary month was fixed without reference to seeing the first signs of Spring so that all Jews knew exactly when to celebrate Passover - in the spring as they had done for a more than a thousand years before 325.

If you are going to argue that every verse in the bible which conflicts with your personal obsession is incorrect or added, then to be frank you may as well toss out your bible and set up your own religion, because what you are following is not Christianity.


“the intercalary month which was already being inserted as necessary”? The Romans were using the Julian solar calendar. What “intercalary month”? It is just one day every four years that was being inserted by the Romans and not a month.

What calendar reform did the Jews do in AD 358/359?

I am correcting Christianity especially on the date when Jesus was born – May 23 – and the date when Jesus was crucified and died – August 17. The dates were revealed by the spirit of Ama. I only checked them out whether they are true or not. Please recheck what I did. The results are on the Internet: http://aristean.org/birthmay23.htm and http://aristean.org/crucifyidx.htm . Present any discrepancy that you find and we will discuss it in this forum.
 
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Like what Ama said, “It is easier to believe in something that is wrong than what is right.”

Yep, you prove the point every time you post.
Don't you see it? This is your opt-out clause.


I do not “ignore knowledge of botany, zoology, and climate”. If they do not agree with what Ama said, I check them out.


And then you attempt to dishonestly pervert the facts.


Somebody asked Ama what kind of leaves does a fig tree have. He said that they are broad and big. Is that correct?


Why do you ask? You will only "take what is good for you and reject what is evil" correct.


I believe that Mark 11:13, which states, “for the time of figs was not yet”, was just added when Passover was moved to around the vernal equinox in AD 325. This is the second part that I say were added or changed.


So this would be an example of ancient texts that are fictional. (In your opinion)


When does a fig tree have leaves? In Summer. Not in spring. The leaf buds are just coming out after winter.


You should learn to research mate.

This guy seems to have a handle on it.


Mar 11:13, 14: And seeing at a distance a fig tree having leaves, He went to see whether He would find any fruit on it. And when He came to it, He found none but leaves, for it was not the season for figs. And Yahusha, responding, said to it,
'Let no one eat fruit from you ever again. And His taught ones heard it.


"Let no one eat fruit from you ever again". This is not cursing the tree, but a curse on the people. Why would the tree care if it failed to bear fruit?



FRUIT IS OFFSPRING
The cursing of the fig tree is a parable about the end-time harvest of Israel.
The fig tree is symbolic of all Israel (see YirmeYahu/Jer 24). When it bears fruit, Israel increases. If it does not bear fruit, it is simply using up the ground, and is therefore useless to Yahusha. The seed (Torah, the Word of Yahuah) is in the fruit. Israel is a nation of priests, established to teach Torah to the nations. When this is not done, no fruit is produced.

The 12 disciples of Yahusha are a miniature picture of the 12 tribes of Israel, His wife. Yahusha attempts to teach Israel, His wife, obedience through His parables (examples), so understanding what the parables mean and who they are directed at allows for their proper interpretation.

What happened to the fig tree refers to what will happen to people of the Covenant who profess to be in the Covenant if they bear no fruit, meaning they fail to increase by bearing fruit - which contains seeds to make more.
The meaning of the parable is blocked from most people because they they've been taught there is no need to obey Torah, so teaching it to others seems pointless to them. These remain lost because they are not in the Covenant.
They feel that LOVE is unconditional, that they are forgiven, and follow the guidance of leaders who are not in the Covenant. According to men's teachings, love is unconditional to all; but according to Yahusha, and every example given in Scripture, APPROVAL is very conditional. Our love is shown to Him through our obedience:

[URL]http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/figtree.html[/URL]

Now that makes a lot of sense. As far as bible sense goes.


It says in the gospel of Matthew of the Holy Bible that a donkey and a colt were taken. When could the colt have been born: in spring, summer, autumn or winter? According to the link that I got, it is about spring when the foal can avail of the abundant grass. I don’t think the foal would be born in summer or autumn because the grass may not be as abundant and tender as in spring. And not in winter because it is rainy in Jerusalem when the foal may catch bronchitis or pneumonia and die.


Jerusalem is NOT in Alberta Canada. Do you even understand what climate is?


The colt maybe one, two, three, or four years old and still be called a foal or a colt. When was it born? Most likely, in spring.


Correct. So how in any way is the donkey/colt/foal relevant to your hypothesis on the time of crucifixion. Or should I say crucifiction?


Although Jesus was a big person, 6’8” high, could He not make himself light so that a colt could carry Him?


Where is the evidence that Jesus was a giant? There are historical documents that clearly state he was tall. In the time of Christ the average person was ~5' or ~153cm. A person of 5'6" would be considered tall. A person of 6' would be considered remarkably and unusually tall. A person of 6'8" would be considered a freak, a giant, and this anomoly surely would have been recorded along with the various descriptions of his hair colour and demeanor. Funnily, it isn't found anywhere.
 
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OK, I read it, and since you cite this link as an authority of Jesus as a Human Being, I will even quote one part of it. You claim this link as your "proof" yet it disagrees with your basic argument as to birth and death dates.


Maybe this is a different Jesus than the one you made up?

Norm


Thanks for reading the Wikipedia link about the “Historicity of Jesus”.

Those who say that Jesus was born between 7 and 2 BC and died 30-36 AD are using the assumption that the years are correct. But they are not. They assume that the source of the dating, the Holy Bible, was using a lunisolar calendar solely since the departure from Egypt in the 16th century BC. I say that from the Babylonian exile in the 7th century BC until the Jews reformed their calendars in AD 358/359, they were using two kinds of calendars – a purely lunar calendar and a lunisolar calendar. Please see http://aristean.org/wp119.htm titled “The use of the lunar and lunisolar calendars by the Jews though the centuries”.

It is the same Jesus Christ, the Messiah, that I am talking about. Our history has to be corrected, especially on the birth and death of Jesus.
 

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