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The crucifixion of Jesus Christ

pakeha said:
Hi, PC.
Isn't it fantastic what we can learn with the internet?
While lies and rumours spread like wildfire over the web, it also gives us the means to learn the truth about a lot of things.
For example, about Angelina Imden.
We know there was never a Helene Curtis fortune for her to inherit.
We know there is no location in the UK 8 hours from a city.


We also know there was never a st Evangeline.
We can substantiate when Passover is celebrated.
When fig trees are in leaf.

Did you read the recent test done in the UK with two women who have successful careers as mediums?
There's a thread on the subject here:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246817

PC, there is no reason to remain in thrall to these fantasies.
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From what I understand, Angelina Imden relinquished her Helene Curtis fortune. She lives in England in a mountainous area. I think she tries to avoid revealing her whereabouts, maybe because of the strict implementation of the law of Great Britain.

I will post one day St. Evangeline so that you will hear her. That’s the name given to this cherub by the people.

I have experienced talking to Angelina Imden, and heard on tape St. Evangeline that is why I can tell you that they are real. Other people present during the session were able to talk to them.

We know that the triumphant entry of Jesus to Jerusalem after raising Lazarus from the dead is commemorated on Palm Sunday, a part of Passover. Can you tell me when the foaling season of an ass is? Does a foal kick to dismount a person sitting on it like what we see in a rodeo?
 
Blue Mountain said:
PeaceCrusader, here is a list of Gods who are leaders of their pantheons. Which one of these is the True God?

Australian Aboriginal pantheon: Baiame
Algonquin pantheon: Gitche Manitou
Ashanti pantheon: Nyame
Aztec pantheon: Quetzalcoatl
Canaanite pantheon: Hadad
Celtic pantheon: Dagda
Chinese pantheon: Shangdi
Dahomey pantheon: Nana Buluku
Egyptian pantheon: Horus
Finnic pantheon: Ukko
Germanic pantheon: Týr
Greek pantheon: Zeus
Guarani pantheon: Tupa
Haida pantheon: Raven
Hindu pantheon: Brahma, Shiva, Vishnu
Hittite pantheon: Arinna or Teshub
Hopi pantheon: Angwusnasomtaka
Inca pantheon: Inti
Inuit pantheon: Anguta or Anigu (but only among the Greenlandic Inuit)
Japanese pantheon: Izanagi
Latin pantheon: Janus
Lakota pantheon: Inyan
Lusitanian pantheon: Endovelicus
Māori pantheon: Tāne
Mayan pantheon: Hunab Ku
Mesopotamian pantheon: Marduk
Miwok pantheon: Coyote
Mongolian pantheon: Tengri
Nabatean pantheon: Dushara
Norse pantheon: Odin
Persian pantheon: Ahura Mazda
Pre-Monotheistic Jewish pantheon: Yahweh
Sami pantheon: Beaivi
Slavic pantheon: Perun
Yoruba pantheon: Olorun

Source: Wikipedia, King of the Gods
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In the list of gods you presented, is there anyone who says like what Jesus said in John 14:6, to wit: “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

Is there anyone who says that he/she is the way to where the Father is (Heaven is where God the Father is), the truth, and the one who can give eternal life?
 
PeaceCrusader said:
From what I understand, Angelina Imden relinquished her Helene Curtis fortune. She lives in England in a mountainous area. I think she tries to avoid revealing her whereabouts, maybe because of the strict implementation of the law of Great Britain.

I will post one day St. Evangeline so that you will hear her. That’s the name given to this cherub by the people.

I have experienced talking to Angelina Imden, and heard on tape St. Evangeline that is why I can tell you that they are real. Other people present during the session were able to talk to them.

We know that the triumphant entry of Jesus to Jerusalem after raising Lazarus from the dead is commemorated on Palm Sunday, a part of Passover. Can you tell me when the foaling season of an ass is? Does a foal kick to dismount a person sitting on it like what we see in a rodeo?
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Hi, PC.
Well,
There was no Helene Curtis fortune for this clearly fictitious Angelina Imden to inherit.
Shall I post up yet again the proofs of this?
They've been posted up before, you know.


A mountainous area of England?
Where would that be, PC?
What mountains are there in England?

You have talked to Angelina Imden?
Of course not, PC.
A medium claimed to channel her, nothing more.
You bought into the lie, for reasons best known to yourself.

A 2 minute search on the Internet would have shown you this is a complete fabrication.

St Evangeline?
I've explained no such saint figures in the calendar.
How can it be you did not investigate this yourself?
 
PeaceCrusader said:
In the list of gods you presented, is there anyone who says like what Jesus said in John 14:6, to wit: “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

Is there anyone who says that he/she is the way to where the Father is (Heaven is where God the Father is), the truth, and the one who can give eternal life?
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Well, to be fair, Jesus didn't say that either. That bit is introduced over half a century after the death of Jesus and there are no parallels in earlier accounts. In fact, the earlier Christologies disagree with this idea.
 
Piggy said:
Well, to be fair, Jesus didn't say that either. That bit is introduced over half a century after the death of Jesus and there are no parallels in earlier accounts. In fact, the earlier Christologies disagree with this idea.
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According to Ama who we talk to, Jesus said that “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” How many true Gods are there? John 17:3 says that there is only one – “the only true God”.

FYI, there was no Bible before. The Holy Bible was written by the children of the apostles who pieced together the notes of their parents and made the stories. The writers were not eyewitnesses of the accounts.

Is John 1:1 in other accounts? Is the account of the wedding at Cana in John 2 in other gospels? Is the transfiguration in the account of John?
 
pakeha said:
Hi, PC.
Well,
There was no Helene Curtis fortune for this clearly fictitious Angelina Imden to inherit.
Shall I post up yet again the proofs of this?
They've been posted up before, you know.


A mountainous area of England?
Where would that be, PC?
What mountains are there in England?

You have talked to Angelina Imden?
Of course not, PC.
A medium claimed to channel her, nothing more.
You bought into the lie, for reasons best known to yourself.

A 2 minute search on the Internet would have shown you this is a complete fabrication.

St Evangeline?
I've explained no such saint figures in the calendar.
How can it be you did not investigate this yourself?
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You are the one who is saying that they don’t exist. I am not forcing anyone to believe in my own experiences. You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. Anyway, we are accountable to our actions in the afterlife.

You may go to the Philippines to check them out yourself. Or you may talk to some members who have experiences on these.

The true God is giving us this time while we are alive. His time is when we are in the afterlife. He will settle account with us.

Please research the Internet when the foaling season of an ass is.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
You are the one who is saying that they don’t exist. I am not forcing anyone to believe in my own experiences. You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. Anyway, we are accountable to our actions in the afterlife.

You may go to the Philippines to check them out yourself. Or you may talk to some members who have experiences on these.

The true God is giving us this time while we are alive. His time is when we are in the afterlife. He will settle account with us.

Please research the Internet when the foaling season of an ass is.
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Hi, PC.
I'm not just making the claim Angelina Imden doesn't exist.
I'm showing you why this is so.

You want to know about the foaling of any animal?
Look it up for yourself and post it up.

Forum members have patiently shown you why your calendar claims are unfounded.
Forum members have shown you why the Passover is a Spring festival.

Why do you ignore all this?
To keep faith with a medium?
 
gabeygoat said:
Here is the weather in Jerusalem from April of this year.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/il/jerusalem/213225/april-weather/213225

Note that the day time temperatures range from 16 (celsius)/ 60.8 (Farenheit) to 29(c)/84.2(f). Plenty warm enough. Maybe you will call accuweather a liar too?
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The temperature that you cited are day time temperatures – 16-29 degrees C. How about in the evening when Jesus was arrested at the Garden of Gethsemane which led to His crucifixion, what do you think would the temperature be? Can one just wear a linen cloth over his naked body?

Historically, the average temperature at Jerusalem on April 5 is 21 degrees C. The lowest on this date is 10 degrees C.

In 2012, the actual temperature on April 5 when the photo was taken was 27 degrees C and the lowest was 13 degrees C.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
Please research the Internet when the foaling season of an ass is.
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There is no "season" for foaling of donkeys (plural). The typical pregnancy can be anywhere from 11-14 months. This means that if a donkey (ass) (singular) is impregnated every year or so the delivery time will be a different time or even season. Could be the middle of summer, could be the middle of winter.
In a WARM climate like Israel this wouldn't make any difference to mortality or breeding strategy.

That was a fun, and I'm sure, completely relevant sidetrack.:jaw-dropp
 
PeaceCrusader said:
The temperature that you cited are day time temperatures – 16-29 degrees C. How about in the evening when Jesus was arrested at the Garden of Gethsemane which led to His crucifixion, what do you think would the temperature be? Can one just wear a linen cloth over his naked body?

Historically, the average temperature at Jerusalem on April 5 is 21 degrees C. The lowest on this date is 10 degrees C.

In 2012, the actual temperature on April 5 when the photo was taken was 27 degrees C and the lowest was 13 degrees C.
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I see you are taking the information about temperatures in Jerusalem in the Spring quite seriously.

I hope you do same with the information we've given you about 'Angelina Imden' and the Helene Curtis 'fortune'.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
Can you tell me when the foaling season of an ass is? Does a foal kick to dismount a person sitting on it like what we see in a rodeo?
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I'm concerned about this fascination with donkeys, PC.

I imagine you are trying to prove a point by saying that donkey foals (plural) are only around at a given time of year, but you are clutching at straws. Nobody can ride a new born animal.:confused:

A donkey (singular) matures at ~4y.o. So, a 1y.o, 2y.o, or a 3y.o, is still considered a young animal, and may be referred to as a foal.

Can you google PC?

LMGTFY

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex598

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey
 
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pakeha said:
I see you are taking the information about temperatures in Jerusalem in the Spring quite seriously..
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Yes, it would seem that he can research, but can't see what .


pakeha said:
I hope you do same with the information we've given you about 'Angelina Imden' and the Helene Curtis 'fortune'.
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I'd like to add donkeys and oak trees to that list.:p

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pakeha said:
Hi, PC.
I'm not just making the claim Angelina Imden doesn't exist.
I'm showing you why this is so.

You want to know about the foaling of any animal?
Look it up for yourself and post it up.

Forum members have patiently shown you why your calendar claims are unfounded.
Forum members have shown you why the Passover is a Spring festival.

Why do you ignore all this?
To keep faith with a medium?
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Based on what you and others said about Angelina Imden, I understand why you doubt that she is telling the truth. I say that maybe she does not want to reveal her whereabouts – even when I asked her if we could just correspond (via snail mail), or her reply to Manuel de la Cruz that the nearest city is about eight hours away. FYI, I have a road map of Great Britain and I don’t think that her whereabouts in GB would be eight hours away from a city.

That is why I am asking you to check it out yourself by going to the Philippines or asking any member of their experiences with Angelina Imden.

I am asking you to check the Internet when the foaling season of an ass is because you are very good at the Internet.

I ask, why do you ignore the results of my checking the revelations? I myself have found that the August 17 crucifixion and May 23 birth of Jesus are true and correct. Check it up yourself.

You still do not understand that Ka Apaz and the spirit of Ama are two distinct and separate entities. Ka Apaz is not faking Ama. You check it out yourself if you wish. But based on my experience and the others experiences, they are two separate entities.

Did you know that there are some members who were allowed by Ama to touch the wounds of the crucified Christ, fresh and a bit wet. I asked to but was declined until today.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
I am asking you to check the Internet when the foaling season of an ass is because you are very good at the Internet.
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Did you miss my post(s) (plural)?

PeaceCrusader said:
Did you know that there are some members who were allowed by Ama to touch the wounds of the crucified Christ, fresh and a bit wet. I asked to but was declined until today.
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I'd love to see some proof of this fascinating delusion.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
Based on what you and others said about Angelina Imden, I understand why you doubt that she is telling the truth. I say that maybe she does not want to reveal her whereabouts – even when I asked her if we could just correspond (via snail mail), or her reply to Manuel de la Cruz that the nearest city is about eight hours away. FYI, I have a road map of Great Britain and I don’t think that her whereabouts in GB would be eight hours away from a city.
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Good grief, the 7 foot corpse collecting giantess does not want to reveal herself
 
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