Send in the tanks! (Chavez)

[Virus]

Hugo Chavez on the Jews:

"The descendants of those who crucified Christ... have taken ownership of the riches of the world, a minority has taken ownership of the gold of the world, the silver, the minerals, water, the good lands, petrol, well, the riches, and they have concentrated the riches in a small number of hands."

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hugo_Chávez

Hugo Chavez at a rally:

“Israel is financing the Venezuelan opposition. There are even groups of Israeli terrorists, of the Mossad, who are after me trying to kill me.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel-Venezuela_relations

 

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wait for it....



3. Outlaw guns and ammunition.

You know, that second amendment thing in the US some here fancy is a quaint anachronism that has outlived its usefulness?

That's a good thing, right? Especially in country where firearm violence iss really out of control, it's about time they started imposing some sort of gun control. America should too.

 

[McHrozni]

Especially in country where firearm violence iss really out of control, it's about time they started imposing some sort of gun control. America should too.

Which "America" is that? If you mean United States of America, you may be surprised at the extent of gun control there.

As for gun control being a good thing, I'm not exactly sure. Given how incompetent and corrupt Venezuelan government is, I wouldn't be surprised if you could get away with carrying an illegal gun if you were a supporter of the president. So no, it's not a good thing.

McHrozni

 

[Virus]

CE, what do you have to say about Leopoldo López? What do you have to say about about him and scores of others being banned from running for office without trial, purely be decree? What do you have to say about the Inter-American Court of Human Rights ruling that Chavez violated his human rights? What do you have to say about the attacks by armed thugs?

 

[WildCat]

CE, what do you have to say about Leopoldo López? What do you have to say about about him and scores of others being banned from running for office without trial, purely be decree? What do you have to say about the Inter-American Court of Human Rights ruling that Chavez violated his human rights? What do you have to say about the attacks by armed thugs?

They're capitalist pigs, they get no rights!

 

[trustbutverify]

... the crusaders and the nazi-right will deliver us the gems of the desperate propaganda war - at face value.

Not Chavez. He was making a rhetorical point about the vicious lies spread about himself and others in the corporate press. He said it's that bad that one can't even be sure if Idi Amin wasn't just a patriot smeared by the media. Wouldn't be surprised if the alleged statement about the moon landing was a similar argument, whose irony was lost in translation on a prejudiced Hitchens who already had a couple of Mojitos too much...

This crap gets repeated over and over again.

An honest Reuters headline about this would not be "Chavez says capitalism may have ended life on Mars", but "Chavez thinks capitalism and imperialism are threatening the survival of civilization on Earth"...

I don't know which is sadder; the ignorant, self serving "theories" of El Gasbag or the desperate flailing of his red faced apologists.

 

[Childlike Empress]

With only a few days to go until the presidential election on Sunday, the opposition continues to dismantle after Capriles' real agenda was leaked a month ago, showing that he is just another Chicago Boy and not the carbon copy of Chavez he plays for the audience. This while all serious pollsters already showed Chavez in a double figure lead and Jimmy Carter praises the Venezuelan election system as among the best in the world, with very good reason.

Viva El Presidente!

 

[WildCat]

With only a few days to go until the presidential election on Sunday, the opposition continues to dismantle after Capriles' real agenda was leaked a month ago, showing that he is just another Chicago Boy and not the carbon copy of Chavez he plays for the audience. This while all serious pollsters already showed Chavez in a double figure lead and Jimmy Carter praises the Venezuelan election system as among the best in the world, with very good reason.

Viva El Presidente!

Meanwhile, in the 99.99% of the world's free media not controlled by baby Hugo:

The ballot spot in question is the very first time Capriles's picture appears on the ballot if you read left-right, top-bottom (as most people in this hemisphere do). The name of the party in the spot, Unidad Democratica, is very close to the Mesa de Unidad Democratica (MUD) that is the opposition's unified organization. The other spots for the Manos por Venezuela, Piedra y Cambio Pana parties, all with Capriles's picture, appear at the center and right side of the ballot and will be marked as null votes. With so little time to go before the election, it is almost guaranteed that thousands of Capriles voters will not hear the announcement of this change and will mistakenly mark their ballot in those spots.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Amer...ty-tricks-Venezuela-prints-a-confusing-ballot

 

[Childlike Empress]

Hahaha, one can always count on you, kitten. Now, that's a guest blogger on Christian Science Monitor, quoting a rabid anti-Chavez blogger, quoting disinfo machine Globovision - which is not quoting CNE. Because there is no such announcement to find. And if you'd watched the video behind the last link in my previous post, you wouldn't have parroted this chinese whispers nonsense. Because you don't "mark a ballot" in Venezuela. They have managed what the combined genius of the US high-tech industry seems to have failed to invent - electronic voting machines (actually mostly older laptops) who print paper ballots. Imagine that. So this "no valida" thing they show is certainly not the ballot. And the printed paper ballot the voters will check and put into the box will not say "nulo" when it shouldn't.

 

[WildCat]

Hahaha, one can always count on you, kitten. Now, that's a guest blogger on Christian Science Monitor, quoting a rabid anti-Chavez blogger, quoting disinfo machine Globovision - which is not quoting CNE. Because there is no such announcement to find. And if you'd watched the video behind the last link in my previous post, you wouldn't have parroted this chinese whispers nonsense. Because you don't "mark a ballot" in Venezuela. They have managed what the combined genius of the US high-tech industry seems to have failed to invent - electronic voting machines (actually mostly older laptops) who print paper ballots. Imagine that. So this "no valida" thing they show is certainly not the ballot. And the printed paper ballot the voters will check and put into the box will not say "nulo" when it shouldn't.

Here's the Miami Heral version: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/01/3029762/venezuela-ballot-changes-could.html

Spin away Childlike. And lol at the thought of you suddenly concerned about sources! As if you had the slightest clue as to how to vet a source.

 

[Childlike Empress]

It's nonsense. Read my post and go ask Jimmy Carter. btw, your Miami rag wants a registration to read the article.

 

[Robrob]

Why is it some people always side with dictators? You'd think even occasionally they'd side with the people.

 

[WildCat]

It's nonsense. Read my post and go ask Jimmy Carter.

Where did Jimmy Carter ever comment on the misleading ballot?

btw, your Miami rag wants a registration to read the article.

Didn't require registration for me.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Where did Jimmy Carter ever comment on the misleading ballot?

Jimmy Carter commented on and investigated their electoral system which doesn't feature "ballots" like they show in your chinese whisper chain. Coincidence that the guy "presenting" it in the first step "is in Cuba"? Hardly so. Over to Miami ...

Didn't require registration for me.

... likely your identity is established well enough through cookies you offer from facebook or this or the other Google service. I read it - Sumate isn't a better source than Globovision. Maybe Putin would feel the need to kick them out, if you know what I mean, but Hugo doesn't have to.

 

[tyr_13]

Why is it some people always side with dictators? You'd think even occasionally they'd side with the people.

That's just a side effect. The goal is to always side against the US/west/ what they thing the west might want.

 

[WildCat]

Jimmy Carter commented on and investigated their electoral system which doesn't feature "ballots" like they show in your chinese whisper chain. Coincidence that the guy "presenting" it in the first step "is in Cuba"? Hardly so. Over to Miami ...

Here's another source: http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=596588&CategoryId=10717

So easy to make an empress dance!

... likely your identity is established well enough through cookies you offer from facebook or this or the other Google service. I read it - Sumate isn't a better source than Globovision. Maybe Putin would feel the need to kick them out, if you know what I mean, but Hugo doesn't have to.

Uh, no. I don't have a facebook or google account and I never registered to the MH site.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Here's another source: http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=596588&CategoryId=10717

So easy to make an empress dance!

Others commentators have pointed out that while President Hugo Chavez seems to have a professional headshot on the ballot, the pictures of all the other candidates look like mug shots, and that of Capriles looks especially colorless while also appearing to have a shadow across half his face.

Lol. Pathetically whiny bunch. It remains nonsense, WildCat. There is no such announcement and that thing is not a ballot.

Uh, no. I don't have a facebook or google account and I never registered to the MH site.

Maybe they are suspicious of Germans, or everybody who isn't a Chicago Boy.

 

[Virus]

Jimmy Carter commented on and investigated their electoral system which doesn't feature "ballots" like they show in your chinese whisper chain. Coincidence that the guy "presenting" it in the first step "is in Cuba"? Hardly so. Over to Miami ...

You mean the guy who said Iranian elections were legit.

... likely your identity is established well enough through cookies you offer from facebook or this or the other Google service. I read it - Sumate isn't a better source than Globovision. Maybe Putin would feel the need to kick them out, if you know what I mean, but Hugo doesn't have to.

Do you know how funny it is when play the source card? Heaps.

http://shadow.foreignpolicy.com/pos...venezuelan_election_as_fear_of_violence_grows

What do you have to say about bandanna-clad armed thugs intimidating the opposition? What do you have to say about Hugo's threat of civil war if he loses?

 

[Childlike Empress]

Do you know how funny it is when play the source card? Heaps.

http://shadow.foreignpolicy.com/pos...venezuelan_election_as_fear_of_violence_grows

Ok, for our collective amusement. Jose R. Cardenas

José R. Cárdenas is an associate with the consulting firm VisionAmericas, based in Washington, D.C. From 2004-2009, he served in various senior positions in the Bush administration working on inter-American relations, including in the U.S. Department of State, the National Security Council, and the U.S. Agency for International Development, where he served as Acting Assistant Administrator for Latin America and the Caribbean and oversaw nearly $1 billion in U.S. development assistance to the region. He also served as a Senior Advisor at the Organization of American States and as a senior professional staff member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He earned his M.A. from Georgetown University in 1985.

I'm sure he knows more about elections than Jimmy Carter and his expert organization, and is a honest broker for the interests of the Venezuelan people. Right? Right. Far-right.

Meet Our Leadership:
Ambassador Roger F. Noriega has more than two decades of public policy experience focusing on U.S. interests in the Western Hemisphere. Twice appointed by President George W. Bush (and confirmed by the U.S. Senate) and with 10-year career on Capitol Hill, Ambassador Noriega's breadth of experience and contacts offer strategic vision and practical insight on U.S. foreign policy and aid programs. Noriega is the founder and managing director of Vision Americas LLC, which advises U.S. and foreign clients on international business issues, and also is a visiting fellow at the prestigious American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research.

Second guy is Francisco Flores Pérez, former president of El Salvador.

The tenure of Francisco Flores was not without its critics. His actions to further align El Salvador with the United States has been widely criticized by his political opponents. In the same manner, he was faulted for an autocratic style of governance, which admitted very little compromise or consultation with the opposition. The lack of flexibility exemplified by his government resulted in a number of crippling strikes, most notably one led by the medical professionals in an attempt to forestall a threatened privatization of the country's public health facilities.

Critics of his dollarization efforts accuse him of doing so without popular consensus, except exclusively with bankers. Even though the replacement of colones with dollars proved to reduce interest rates, it also caused a huge long-term inflation as prices were rounded upwards.

And so on. Your buddy gets payed by an ultra-right consulting firm specialized in "opening markets" in Latin America for US/corporate interests. His job includes writing fantasy to demonize the biggest obstacle there is against their goals, Comrade Hugo.

Give me a break.

And as to "threatening civil war" - read the thread title. It's not 2008 anymore. Nobody but self-serving hardcore ideologues believe this nonsense anymore.

Hope you had fun. I had.

 

[Virus]

That's the best you could dig up? Pretty lame if you ask me.

Considering your favourite source is the newspaper of Hezbollah, a terrorist group known for smashing little girl's skulls in with rifle butts.