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PeaceCrusader said:
20120729.2330

I still feel devastated by the failure of the prophecies of the spirit. Why have they failed?

Maybe I wrongly interpreted the prophecies. He said that the world war will originate from the Philippines back in 1980s in the middle of this year on a Wednesday and that the 2012 Olympic Games will not be held. I interpreted that the stop point was the Opening Ceremony of the Olympics on 07-27. The four Wednesdays under the sign of Cancer and the 07-25 Wednesday failed. All these events have come and gone.

The original text is in message 1944. How about if “Hindi nga matutuloy iyon” (“That will not be held”) means the 2012 Olympic Games will be completed on 08-12? That is the stop point. There are two Wednesdays during the Games – 08-01 and 08-08. There is still a problem at the South China Sea and there is a possibility that war would erupt there anytime because of the Philippines’ claim to the Spratly Islands and Scarborough Shoals. Just take care on these dates.

I cannot accept what some of you say that there is no spirit. I know there is a spirit that appropriates the body of Ka Apaz who we call Ama. I have associated with her since 1983 and I would know if she was just faking it.

I asked this holy spirit point blank one time how I will know who the true Ama is because there is also one who calls himself as Ama right at the village where we used to live in the Philippines, and others. He said to listen to what he says and I will know who he is. It took me eleven years (1983-1994) before I believed that the spirit is the spirit of Jesus Christ. With the prophecies failure, I again question his being the true Holy Spirit. I will continue my quest.
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Okay, you are having a hard time accepting that there is no spirit.

I would suggest that you look a little more deeply into the techniques of mediums. Assuming that Ka Apaz is losing it a bit as she gets old, your descriptions of her earlier sessions match those of a moderately talented practitioner. Ask yourself exactly what information the "spirit" has provided that was not available to Ka Apaz. Don"t forget to include anything you or anyone else has said in her presence.
 
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PeaceCrusader said:
20120729.2330

I still feel devastated by the failure of the prophecies of the spirit. Why have they failed?
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I'm sorry that you feel devastated, but I would like you to think about this for a moment; are you really saddened that nuclear devastation is not occurring? Shouldn't your over-riding emotion be relief that the world isn't facing disaster on an unprecedented scale?

PeaceCrusader said:
Maybe I wrongly interpreted the prophecies. He said that the world war will originate from the Philippines back in 1980s in the middle of this year on a Wednesday and that the 2012 Olympic Games will not be held. I interpreted that the stop point was the Opening Ceremony of the Olympics on 07-27. The four Wednesdays under the sign of Cancer and the 07-25 Wednesday failed. All these events have come and gone.
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If that's what the prophecies said, then the prophecies were wrong. Not interpreted wrongly, just plain flat out wrong. As everyone on this thread has been telling you from the beginning, the prophecies were wrong and you are being led astray by someone deliberately faking being possessed by a spirit. You may believe that Ka Apaz is not acting, but as the prophecies were wrong she must have been. She's been acting all this time and you and several others have been fooled by her. It's a horrible feeling to realise that someone has deliberately faked something like this, but I urge you to see sense here.

If there is such a thing as a 'Holy Spirit' (which I don't believe, but allowing it for the purpose of this discussion), it has not been possessing Ka Apaz or otherwise communicating with anyone through her. She's just an accomplished actress. By believing the prophecies she made, you've unfortunately been fooled by her. Don't make that mistake again, I implore you.

PeaceCrusader said:
The original text is in message 1944. How about if “Hindi nga matutuloy iyon” (“That will not be held”) means the 2012 Olympic Games will be completed on 08-12? That is the stop point. There are two Wednesdays during the Games – 08-01 and 08-08. There is still a problem at the South China Sea and there is a possibility that war would erupt there anytime because of the Philippines’ claim to the Spratly Islands and Scarborough Shoals. Just take care on these dates.
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Why does anyone here need to "take care"? We have no influence over the dispute nor will taking care prevent war (if war is inevitable), nor the effects of war.

Most countries will do everything they can to avoid war - it's costly in terms of money, and it's costly in terms of human life. The countries disputing possession of the Spratly Islands will sabre-rattle and present their cases strongly, but in the end the most likely outcome is a diplomatic compromise. Please stop wasting your life worrying about something which will almost certainly never happen and on which you have no influence; there's a wonderful world out there. Get out and enjoy it.

PeaceCrusader said:
I cannot accept what some of you say that there is no spirit. I know there is a spirit that appropriates the body of Ka Apaz who we call Ama. I have associated with her since 1983 and I would know if she was just faking it.
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If you prefer to believe that this woman is not faking/acting, that's up to you. But look at the evidence. Has she been correct about anything specific? No. Was she right about the Olympics being held? No. Was she right about nuclear war breaking out? Clearly not. If it is a spirit, it's a bad, evil spirit which is telling lies. If it's not a spirit, then Ka Apaz is telling lies. Either way, you are being lied to.

PeaceCrusader said:
I asked this holy spirit point blank one time how I will know who the true Ama is because there is also one who calls himself as Ama right at the village where we used to live in the Philippines, and others. He said to listen to what he says and I will know who he is. It took me eleven years (1983-1994) before I believed that the spirit is the spirit of Jesus Christ. With the prophecies failure, I again question his being the true Holy Spirit. I will continue my quest.
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Good luck in your quest. Next time, look for evidence, and follow where it leads, even if by doing so you have to discard things in which you used to believe. This 'spirit' has lied to you, which ought to be persuasive to you that it is either an act put on by Ka Apaz, or an evil spirit which tells lies.

On the other hand, everyone on this thread who told you that the prophecies were nonsense has been proven correct. We all said that war would not break out - and it hasn't. We all said that the Olympics would be held as planned - and so far that is exactly what has happened. Everybody posting in this thread apart from you has a better record of prophecy than your so-called spirit. Does that mean that anyone in this thread is a Holy Spirit? Not at all. Prophecy, real prophecy, doesn't exist outside story books. Forget about trying to tell the future and enjoy the present.
 
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It's a probable 12 to 7...

George152 said:
He -could- make them out of polystyrene. That way he wouldn't strain his back while he attempts to strain our credulity.
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Those goalpost thingies are a bit heavy:

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Thank you for the idea, Akhenaten!
 
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If you prefer to believe that this woman is not faking/acting, that's up to you. But look at the evidence. Has she been correct about anything specific? No. Was she right about the Olympics being held? No. Was she right about nuclear war breaking out? Clearly not. If it is a spirit, it's a bad, evil spirit which is telling lies. If it's not a spirit, then Ka Apaz is telling lies. Either way, you are being lied to.
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And what's more likely: that some "false god" is telling lies through an innocent human, or that the human isn't so innocent after all and is, herself, telling the lies?

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Has it occurred to anyone that PeaceCrusader may be having a laugh at our expence?
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Sure, but I mostly dismissed the thought for much the same reason Paul wrote:

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He'd have to have gone to an awful lot of trouble for many years to play a bad joke that only exists in his head.
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And even if he is, he can have his laugh. Knowing that this was all an elaborate and long-term joke certainly wouldn't make me feel bad about myself; it would simply change the reasons I don't respect him.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
20120729.2330

I still feel devastated by the failure of the prophecies of the spirit. Why have they failed?

Maybe I ...
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Well THAT didn't last long....
PeaceCrusader said:
20120726.2115

Wednesday, 2012-07-25,


I would like to apologize to all of you. I am deeply sorry.
I will refrain from discussing prophecies anymore...
I will reconsider my belief that the Holy Spirit who we are talking to is the true Holy Spirit and so is my belief that Ka Apaz’ physical body is appropriated by this spirit.
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The ants go marching ten by ten, hurrah, hurrah!

I didn't watch any of Beijing because I disapprove of the People's Republic of China, and thought I was over the Olympics, but I'm getting sucked back in. I should have known watching the opening ceremony was a gateway drug.

The U.S. women's rowing team looked outstanding, and the women's gymnastics team vaulting was pretty outstanding too.
 
Shouldn't the world be warned that a nuclear war has taken place and that 200,000,000 Chinese troops are invading?
 
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