Vaccine/autism CT discussion

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Clayton Moore said:
It doesn't make any freaking difference what I don't know about viruses and how the immune system works.
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It does when you are making claims about viruses and how the immune system works.

I'm demanding to know why medical science can't figure out why millions of toddlers all over the world are relatively suddenly becoming autistic.
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It's been explained to you any number of times. Your refusing to read/acknowledge the answer isn't our fault.

Medical science is saying that they can't figure out the cause.
That has to be a lie.
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Argument from Ignorance. You do this a lot. Why?

You're a science person. How many relatively recent internal environmental contacts do babies all over the world share?

Medical science is saying that the cause can't be vaccines.
If medical science says it can't figure out the cause how can they rule out something as IN FREAKING VASIVE as vaccines into tiny children?
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And again. Begging the Question as well.
 
Clayton it has been scientiifcally established that the vaccinne has nothing at all to do with the rise in autism absoulutly nothing.

And yes knowing something about the subject you are discussing goes a long way to giving you any credability for your claims and statements.

As you have time and again, here and in other threads, demonstrated total ignorance of what you are discussing nothing you say has any credability.
 
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Clayton Moore said:
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress....y-us-government-merck’s-director-of vaccines/
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Shame on you, CT.
Your link to a most misleading article about the causes of autism states:
rubella can cause autism
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What it doesn't mention is that
Prenatal exposure to rubella or cytomegalovirus activates the mother's immune response and greatly increases the risk for autism.[
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(from Causes_of_autismWP)

Pre-natal.
Do you understand what that means, CM?
 
pakeha said:
Shame on you, CT.
Your link to a most misleading article about the causes of autism states:

What it doesn't mention is that (from Causes_of_autismWP)

Pre-natal.
Do you understand what that means, CM?
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But assume for a second CM was right. The disease causes autism. Why then is vaccinating TO PREVENT THE DISEASE the worse evil? Hmmmm.

Internal logic fail. As has been pointed out many times before in this thread.
 
But then there's this.

Obviously an approved way of administering the inoculation -- see? As long as it stays away from this child's GI tract, he'll be fine...
 
Tomtomkent said:
But assume for a second CM was right. The disease causes autism. Why then is vaccinating TO PREVENT THE DISEASE the worse evil? Hmmmm.

Internal logic fail. As has been pointed out many times before in this thread.
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It's 2012 and all the world's scientists can't figure out the what babies all over the world are encountering at the age of about 1 and 1/2 that causes them to become autistic.


The people who believe the above are beyond hope.

Injecting drugs seems to be a good time for many until they screw up the injection process. Seems drugs can be impure or too pure or overdosable.


Protecting the integrity of evidence collected is vital in law enforcement.
Is it far fetched that vaccines could lose their integrity?

How would you know?

MMR. Three vaccines in one dose.

7 or 8 vaccines administered at one time to a toddler.


http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/easy-to-read/child.html

What could possibly go wrong?

Wake up.
 
You do realize of course that vaccines are administered by people trained in goving them, while junkies who shoot up generally have no training, don't you?

Of course you don't, that would require you to move beyond your little bubble of hate and paranoia.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Injecting drugs seems to be a good time for many until they screw up the injection process. Seems drugs can be impure or too pure or overdosable.
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I'm sorry, did you really just try to equivocate shooting up ILLEGAL DRUGS, which by their very definition are not subject to any form of oversight or quality control, and which are furthermore usually introduced directly into the bloodstream, with the injection of vaccines? I'm honestly at a loss for words at the magnitude of fail.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Injecting drugs seems to be a good time for many until they screw up the injection process. Seems drugs can be impure or too pure or overdosable.
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Indeed! Why, I remember the day I stepped on a nail and my mother took me to the hospital. The poor, jittery nurse ended up injecting the tetanus shot into my eyeball instead of my arm. Also, the vaccine was too pure and I died within hours.

Talk about unpleasant...
 
Clayton Moore said:
It's 2012 and all the world's scientists can't figure out the what babies all over the world are encountering at the age of about 1 and 1/2 that causes them to become autistic.
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Nor are we sure what causes left-handedness, but in both cases we know what it is *not*, and that's vaccines
Clayton Moore said:
What could possibly go wrong?
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But things we *know* won't go wrong include that no vaccine has ever caused instant death, nor ended up in the GI tract, despite your posted lies to the contrary.

So rather than posting more disproven crap, why don't you tell us the *real* reason you refuse to educate yourself on things like how the immune system works before you continue to whine about it?
 
Clayton Moore said:
It's 2012 and all the world's scientists can't figure out the what babies all over the world are encountering at the age of about 1 and 1/2 that causes them to become autistic.


The people who believe the above are beyond hope.

Injecting drugs seems to be a good time for many until they screw up the injection process. Seems drugs can be impure or too pure or overdosable.


Protecting the integrity of evidence collected is vital in law enforcement.
Is it far fetched that vaccines could lose their integrity?

How would you know?

MMR. Three vaccines in one dose.

7 or 8 vaccines administered at one time to a toddler.


http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/easy-to-read/child.html

What could possibly go wrong?

Wake up.
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Incredulity, not actually answering the question, Gish Gallop, continued avoidance of the polio question.
 
Clayton Moore said:
MMR. Three vaccines in one dose.

7 or 8 vaccines administered at one time to a toddler.

What could possibly go wrong?

Wake up.
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Wow. 7 or 8?
What could go wrong?

I have a better idea. Why don't you TELL US what could go wrong. With evidence that your claims are valid possibilities. That they have not been considered and discounted by the testing already carried out. The relevence of the numbers 7 or 8.

Oh wait. That is what actual "critical thinkers" would do right. Consider the evidence and evaluate it. Hmm. Far less fun than telling people to "Wake up," and ask questions because you happen to think something and wont let reality get in the way of those beliefs.
 
Clayton Moore said:
It's 2012 and all the world's scientists can't figure out the what babies all over the world are encountering at the age of about 1 and 1/2 that causes them to become autistic.
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Its quite possible that it is the result of delayed age of fathers having children. If so then there is no relevancy to the age of onset of symtoms of autism. Same goes for onset of several genetic diseases, same goes for many cases of schizophrenia (usual onset late teens easrlier twenties).


The people who believe the above are beyond hope.
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............. nah,,,,,,, too easy to respond to....

Injecting drugs seems to be a good time for many until they screw up the injection process. Seems drugs can be impure or too pure or overdosable.
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In a great many cases of street drugs yes, not so much for the tightly controlled manufacturers of medicinal drugs.

Protecting the integrity of evidence collected is vital in law enforcement.
Is it far fetched that vaccines could lose their integrity?
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WTF are you talking about?
 
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