Vaccine/autism CT discussion

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While we await CM's response to this challenge, I present for your consideration some airbourne philosophical musings.

And on the subject of the dangers of airborne pathogens, this group of philosophers has something to say as well.
 
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Clayton Moore said:
Dude, if a person doesn't get that through the skin, bloodstream or not, is not your body's battleground of choice then my answering their questions would be like talking to a wall.

What would be the chance in nature that the measles virus would arrive through the skin? Pretty close to zero?
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You didn't answer the question Clayton. And what you wrote is just gibberish.

Now answer the question.
 
Tomblvd said:
You didn't answer the question Clayton. And what you wrote is just gibberish.

Now answer the question.
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It is increasingly clear Clayton will not explain what he can't explain.

At this point if he did answer, even with the expected wrong answer, one would have to wonder why he bothered typing so many non answers first.

I can find no evidence of any mutagenic property that will alter an antigen from a non-autism causing strain to an autism causing strain by virtue of an injection. Or that would inversely remove the autism causing effect if the antigen entered through inhalation, cuts, digestion, etc. There are defences, but none that would have the needed effect for Claytons assertion.
 
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Yeah, lots of people think so. Still, I found it an amusing play on airbourne, poor old CM's Waterloo.
 
Tomtomkent said:
.... I am assuming that is a handwave because you don't like it when people ask questions that would mean trying to make your assertions fit into the real world, where they will be shown to be flawed. I quite expect you to be desperately hammering any combination of words that enters your head into the keyboard because despite your "most" inteligent status you have no idea if there is a difference between antigens entering the bloodstream through an injection or natural paths, and can not justify or support your original statement...
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I'm not sure if it counts as a handwave when the individual in question is so biased they are categorically incapable of even comprehending arguments contrary to their position.
 
Did I miss the post where Clayton explains his knowledge of viruses and how the immune system works so we can understand the basis of why he believes contrary to 98% of bologicsl scientists, medical doctors, US health agencies. international health agencies, and non-profits like the Gates foundation?
 
Giordano said:
Did I miss the post where Clayton explains his knowledge of viruses and how the immune system works so we can understand the basis of why he believes contrary to 98% of bologicsl scientists, medical doctors, US health agencies. international health agencies, and non-profits like the Gates foundation?
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The drug/vaccine industry is playing the same game of lies and deception that big tobacco played decades ago.


It doesn't make any freaking difference what I don't know about viruses and how the immune system works.

I'm demanding to know why medical science can't figure out why millions of toddlers all over the world are relatively suddenly becoming autistic.

Medical science is saying that they can't figure out the cause.
That has to be a lie.

You're a science person. How many relatively recent internal environmental contacts do babies all over the world share?

Medical science is saying that the cause can't be vaccines.
If medical science says it can't figure out the cause how can they rule out something as IN FREAKING VASIVE as vaccines into tiny children?
 
Clayton Moore said:
It doesn't make any freaking difference what I don't know about viruses and how the immune system works.
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Oh yes it does.

Medical science is saying that they can't figure out the cause.
That has to be a lie.
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Why? And if you have no medical knowledge then how do you know that it is a lie?
 
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Clayton Moore said:
Medical science is saying that the cause can't be vaccines.
If medical science says it can't figure out the cause how can they rule out something as IN FREAKING VASIVE as vaccines into tiny children?
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Well, if you read the MANY studies posted here you would understand that vaccines are one of the potential caused that have been conclusively discredited. The potential link was studied, many times over, and no evidence was found.

Now please explain how you discounted all other commonalities.
Then explain why you think "unknown" means vaccine.

Or continue to evade, which will make it clear you can't do either.
 
Clayton Moore said:
The drug/vaccine industry is playing the same game of lies and deception that big tobacco played decades ago.


It doesn't make any freaking difference what I don't know about viruses and how the immune system works.

I'm demanding to know why medical science can't figure out why millions of toddlers all over the world are relatively suddenly becoming autistic.

Medical science is saying that they can't figure out the cause.
That has to be a lie.
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What a shame you had trouble reading the links I've posted up. It seems like you're simply lashing yourself into a frenzy rather than actually considering what science IS actually deteermining about autism's causes.

Clayton Moore said:
You're a science person. How many relatively recent internal environmental contacts do babies all over the world share?

Medical science is saying that the cause can't be vaccines.
If medical science says it can't figure out the cause how can they rule out something as IN FREAKING VASIVE as vaccines into tiny children?
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Now, CM, we've gone over this before, haven't we?
Remind yourself of the 9 month long enviornment almost all babies have in common.

Remind yourself that you really haven't a clue about what vaccines are and how they are administered while you're at it.
 
Clayton Moore said:
The drug/vaccine industry is playing the same game of lies and deception that big tobacco played decades ago.
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And it didn't take too long for the case against "big tobacco" to overwhelm them. Odd, the same thing isn't happening in this case.


It doesn't make any freaking difference what I don't know about viruses and how the immune system works.
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You are stating as facts information that you want others to believe. Thanks for admitting you don't understand what you are talking about so your posts can be summarily dismissed.

I'm demanding to know why medical science can't figure out why millions of toddlers all over the world are relatively suddenly becoming autistic.
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Please define what, exactly, you mean by the term "medical science". You speak of it as some monolithic entity.

Medical science is saying that they can't figure out the cause.
That has to be a lie.
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There is a Nobel Prize and millions of dollars waiting for the researcher to solve the riddle of autism. You are telling us that every single medical researcher in the entire world is involved in a conspiracy to keep quiet about autism.

That is completely insane, even for you.

You're a science person. How many relatively recent internal environmental contacts do babies all over the world share?
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Thousands? Tens of thousands? Hundreds of thousands?

Anyway, it's a lot.

Medical science is saying that the cause can't be vaccines.
If medical science says it can't figure out the cause how can they rule out something as IN FREAKING VASIVE as vaccines into tiny children?
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They can rule it out for the simple reason that children who have never been vaccinated develop autism.

Q.E.D.
 
TSR said:
Not to mention the millions who are vaccinated, who do not.
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And also not to mention that there is no indication of any increase in the rate of autism, only in the ability to accurately diagnose autism.
 
Or the fact that little clayton doesn't know how the immune system actually works
 
Tomtomkent said:
And also not to mention that there is no indication of any increase in the rate of autism, only in the ability to accurately diagnose autism.
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I recently heard Bill Clinton speak. He went into the "one in 84" or whatever the number was, and said that it can't all be explained by better diagnosis. Was he wrong? I was waiting for him to go into all-out anti-vax woo, but he stopped short. I think he's on a vegan diet and might be flirting with some "alternative" medicine.
 
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