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Merged 9/11 No Plane/Energy Weapon discussion thread

Certainly, gravity and kerosene don't flip cars or selectively rust them out.
True, we all know this

Dr. Wood is merely showing that the effects seen at and around GZ are caused by exotic weaponry, Macgyver.

Incorrect. She has completely failed to explain how these effects could in fact be caused by exotic weaponry. She in fact refuses to do so. Her claims are empty, null and void.

In contrast, NIST and/or 9/11 Commission did not explain what had happened, at all.

They explained precisely what was relevant to the collapse of the buildings, with ample empirical evidence (something almost completely absent from Judy Wood's work), and also explained in great detail the exact nature of the conspiracy to hijack the planes and crash them.

Perhaps your quarrel is more with the lack of explanation from any source OTHER than Dr. Wood, rather than with her explanation, demonstration, proof and painstaking forensic work.

That was just nonsense, pure and simple. Hogwash.
 
Anyone who uses the word "rustification" instead of rusting or corrosion is not going to impress anyone except the gullible. The fact that Dr Wood has a materials science qualification makes this unforgivable. She loses all respect for that one nonsensical caption alone.

If any materials engineer used that word in the real world they would be ridiculed.
 
This "selective rusting" is also nonsense. Anyone with half a brain stem can see why certain parts of a car will rust whilst other parts made of steel won't.

Unprotected or untreated non-corrosion resistant or non-stainless steel will rust if exposed to the atmosphere.

You have to be a complete and utter moron to believe that hurricanes can rust certain steel parts and not others given that the materials are in the same condition. Bonkers.
 
Despite the existence of evidence, Dr. Wood does not make a claim as to location of the weaponry that destroyed the WTC complex.

Those who have a vested interest in proving she said the weapons were space-based are engaging in disinformation, manipulation and misrepresentation.

Does repeating a claim after it has been obviously disproved really work for you?

If Dr. Wood does not claim this, why does she keep saying it?

Hans
 
The point Dr. Wood exquisitely makes in her website and in her book, 'Where Did the Towers Go" Ch.18, is that hurricanes, Hurricane Erin, in particular are a factor in the generation of energy.

It's nice to know that Dr. Wood exquisitely makes the point that hurricanes are a factor in the generation of energy.

What could that possibly mean?

By any chance is Dr. Wood a protege of Alan Sokal?
 
That's the problem with most people who disrespect Judy Wood. They don't actually understand what she's saying. They haven't spent the time it takes to read and understand her work. You have to read her work AND read extra references in order to understand the basics of what she's saying.

I'll summarize it here: The buildings didn't make a big BOOM when they landed.

Get it? The seismic data does not record vibrations that would be consistent with a gigantic building slamming into the ground.

See how this is very different but consistent with me finding metallic foam? Foam doesn't make a very big boom if it hits the ground.

Actually, the collapse of all the buildings were in fact picked up by different seismic sensors in Manhattan. Why are you not aware of this?
 
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It's nice to know that Dr. Wood exquisitely makes the point that hurricanes are a factor in the generation of energy.

What could that possibly mean?
It means Judy Wood suffers from severe mental illness and/or brain damage, as is well-documented on her web site.
 
JREF isn't the only place, by far, that you'll find disrespect for Judy Wood. For instance read the bulk of the comments left by her students when they rated her as a Professor (From HERE)
Like others said, she had good intentions and when she wasn't trying to convince us Bush blew up the WTC she was actually nice, but she wasn't a great teacher. Too many times she starts examples and doesn't finish them. And yes, she was in a coma for 6 years. How crazy is that.

That one right there is scary. Can't she be fired for spewing such nonsense to students?
 
So? The case you bring up could be completely different circumstances. What does that have to do with absolutely anything? It's not even in New York, it's Connecticut.

I mean, thanks for the completely useless and unwanted information. It was real. It was fun. It was real stupid.

Did you just include this to let us all know that the lawyer doesn't always take cases from tin foil hat wearing nut cases? Good on him I guess.


I included this in order to demonstrate when sanctions are proper and when they are not. Sanctions were not proper in the Wood case; and none were imposed. Posters here truly, deeply and madly wanted sanctions to be imposed because of their inability or unwillingness to accept that Dr. Wood's case did not merit them, despite their protestations and despite the valiant and ultimately futile attempts by the likes of SAIC and ARA to get sanctions.

There is one final apparent assumption that needs to be addressed here; and that is, the federal courts in NYC, including the Southern District of New York are, contrary to what LashL assumed, free and easy in handing out sanctions left, right and center. Keep in mind the context: NYC. Things are rough and tough there. You know the song NY,NY. "If I can make it there, I can make it anywhere..." So it is in re law practice in the federal courts in NY.

If you are unwilling to take my word for it, ask an acquaintance of your own who might be a NY lawyer.
 
With due respect, RateMyProfessor comments should be taken with a very large grain of salt. We don't even know that these comments were written by her students, much less that they are representative of her students' views — or that students' views are particularly well-informed

I don't know anything about her dismissal and perhaps she really is an abysmal teacher, but I've learned that student responses on teaching evaluations are a pretty rough measure of skill, and responses on a voluntary, unaffiliated website like RateMyProfessor are that much worse.

I have put it down simply to the desparation of debunkers to find anything, anywhere, anyhow to spin negatively about Dr. Wood. Little do they appear to realize doing so merely confirms they cannot refute her exquisite, finely researched and historically significant work in determining what destroyed the WTC complex on 9/11.

Blessings
 
That one right there is scary. Can't she be fired for spewing such nonsense to students?

The student did not listen well. Dr. Wood focused on what happened and made no claim about who did it. That said, it is fairly obvious the common storyline conspiracy theory that it was "19 Arabs with box cutters" is obviously false and the determination of what did, in fact, happen confirms that silly conspiracy theory to be complete and utter nonsense.

There is an additional point that I agree with you on. Yes, people in the corporate world, the world of academia can and do get fired for questioning 9/11. Such is fascism. Such is the degree of fear that people live under; that they dare not question authority, ever.

But hey, some people like fascism. Others like to be submissive, especially as it relates to authority. The perps of 9/11 knew of the tendencies of most people. Psyops work.

Thank you for your moment of candor. I do not know if you fully realize the import of your comment; but, there it is for all to see.

You condone placing people under fear for speaking out about 9/11.

Tsk tsk
 
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It's nice to know that Dr. Wood exquisitely makes the point that hurricanes are a factor in the generation of energy.

What could that possibly mean?

By any chance is Dr. Wood a protege of Alan Sokal?

Can you please consider being a bit less coy. If there's a point, claim or reference you'd like to make concerning Alan Sokal, please make it.
 
It's nice to know that Dr. Wood exquisitely makes the point that hurricanes are a factor in the generation of energy.

What could that possibly mean?

By any chance is Dr. Wood a protege of Alan Sokal?

Can you please consider being a bit less coy. If there's a point, claim or reference you'd like to make concerning Alan Sokal, please make it.

What part of "What could that possibly mean?" do you consider "coy"? If you can't address that, then you really have no basis to be calling me out.
 
True, we all know this

You appear to acknowledge that the commonstoryline is false here Alien because the commonstoryline mandates that gravity and kerosene annihilated the Twin Towers, each in about 10 seconds.

Incorrect. She has completely failed to explain how these effects could in fact be caused by exotic weaponry. She in fact refuses to do so. Her claims are empty, null and void.

There exists a 500 page book that proves your statement is wrong, utterly.

They explained precisely what was relevant to the collapse of the buildings, with ample empirical evidence (something almost completely absent from Judy Wood's work), and also explained in great detail the exact nature of the conspiracy to hijack the planes and crash them.

You are too clever by a half. Assuming, arguendo, your statement that
"[t]hey explained precisely what was relevant to the collapse of the buildings" has some merit, it is really quite weak.

It's like the old tuna fish commercial where Charlie tuna claims he has "taste" because of his high degree of culture; when the issue is whether the particular brand of tuna tastes good to eat.

So it is with your quoted ditty. Explaining precisely what was relevant to the "collapse" of the buildings does not determine, let alone explain what destroyed them. And, as I have earlier noted, NIST openly, albeit obliquely, in a footnote, admitted as much.

See: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8242229&postcount=195

In my opinion, you do the thread a disservice by refusing to acknowledge the complete uselessness of the NIST report. Perhaps you WANT to be able to rely on a governmentally funded, congressionally mandated research project. Goodness knows we SHOULD be able to trust and rely on such undertakings. But, in the event, NIST failed to adhere to their mandate, and were led by SAIC, ARA and others to commit fraud, instead.

Once again:

"The focus of the Investigation was on the sequence of events from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower. For brevity in this report, this sequence is referred to as the “probable collapse sequence,” although it includes little analysis of the structural behavior of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached and collapse became inevitable." NCSTAR1 pg xxxvii (39 of 298).

And, removing all doubt that "little analysis" actually meant none whatsoever:

"As stated in NCSTAR 1, NIST only investigated the factors leading to the initiation of the collapses of the WTC towers, not the collapses themselves."

That was just nonsense, pure and simple. Hogwash.

Your wish is not our command. On the other hand, you are free to believe whatever you like to believe for howsoever long you choose to hold onto your belief.

Meanwhile, Dr. Judy Wood has determined and proven what destroyed the WTC complex on 9/11.
 
The student did not listen well. Dr. Wood focused on what happened and made no claim about who did it. That said, it is fairly obvious the common storyline conspiracy theory that it was "19 Arabs with box cutters" is obviously false and the determination of what did, in fact, happen confirms that silly conspiracy theory to be complete and utter nonsense.

There is an additional point that I agree with you on. Yes, people in the corporate world, the world of academia can and do get fired for questioning 9/11. Such is fascism. Such is the degree of fear that people live under; that they dare not question authority, ever.

But hey, some people like fascism. Others like to be submissive, especially as it relates to authority. The perps of 9/11 knew of the tendencies of most people. Psyops work.

Thank you for your moment of candor. I do not know if you fully realize the import of your comment; but, there it is for all to see.

You condone placing people under fear for speaking out about 9/11.

Tsk tsk

What is the subject matter of her class?
 
I've already opened up the topic of the electrical nature of tornadoes and hurricanes. Certainly, gravity and kerosene don't flip cars or selectively rust them out. Dr. Wood is merely showing that the effects seen at and around GZ are caused by exotic weaponry, Macgyver.

In contrast, NIST and/or 9/11 Commission did not explain what had happened, at all.

Perhaps your quarrel is more with the lack of explanation from any source OTHER than Dr. Wood, rather than with her explanation, demonstration, proof and painstaking forensic work.

So exotic weaponry is used in hurricanes?
 
I have put it down simply to the desparation of debunkers to find anything, anywhere, anyhow to spin negatively about Dr. Wood. Little do they appear to realize doing so merely confirms they cannot refute her exquisite, finely researched and historically significant work in determining what destroyed the WTC complex on 9/11.

Blessings

Jammie - when referring to negative spin as it regards to Judy Wood, the correct word isn't "anywhere" - it's "everywhere".

She's a nutcase as is anybody who supports her.
 
You appear to acknowledge that the commonstoryline is false here Alien because the commonstoryline mandates that gravity and kerosene annihilated the Twin Towers, each in about 10 seconds.

LOL
"Kerosene" - as if someone dropped a coleman stove on the 88th floor.

Anything else happen there, kiddo? Anything at all?
 

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