Richard Gage Blueprint for Truth Rebuttals on YouTube by Chris Mohr

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"100% rigid (by C7's assertion) flexible (by the dictionary definition) moment frames."
That is a lie.

Go back and read what I wrote about the support plate.

Moment frames are flexible, by design.

The seat was 1" thick.

You have denied both, and are making not one jot of sense. Chill.
 
Towering inferno? This only proves that you will say anything no matter how ludicrous. There were no fires on floors 14 thru 17 and they were vacant. There were no fires on floors 5 and 6. Those were mechanical floors and few people had access. There were no fires on floors 1 and 2 which was mostly the ConEd substation and few people had access.
Wait. How did you know what floors had explosives planted on them?
 
I see a few of gems:
...Once they are in FFA, which they were, there are no internal forces...
Wrong. :sdl:
...When something is welded, it is rigid....
Also wrong :sdl:

And there are three errors in this bit. Spot 'em for yourself:
...reprehensible for you to make these proclamations in a video that purports to discredit Mr. Gage. He is only quoting people who do know what they are talking about and you don't know what you are talking about so stop pretending like you do.
Wrong, wrong and wrong. Respectively. :sdl: :sdl: :sdl:
 
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yeah, looks like he had the joint pretty well cased out. You don't suppose he and shc both... Hmmm. Plus ergo seemed to be able to pull up those staircase locations up pretty quick.

Nah.... Couldn't be.:confused:


Could it?
zomg!!!!!!
 
Websites? Chris Mohr said:
"100% rigid (by C7's assertion) flexible (by the dictionary definition) moment frames."
That is a lie.

Go back and read what I wrote about the support plate.
Chris, are you an engineering professional? Because the frequency with which you are claiming knowledge that trumps other engineering professions is quickly escalating, and is troubling.

A wise man once told me "the less a man makes declarative statements, the less apt he is to look foolish in retrospect".
 
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That's why I love JREF.

I figured there must have been some sort of term for smoke exiting windows, but I didn't know what it was. Issuing. Thanks!


I like "billowing" myself.....:D

billowingpresent participle of bil·low (Verb)
Verb:

(of fabric) Fill with air and swell outward: "her dress billowed out around her".
(of smoke, cloud, or steam) Move or flow outward with an undulating motion.
 
Chimneys like this can exist, but they need to have a stonkin' great fire in them. Such mechanisms were once used to ventilate mineshafts ;)

Ah no, they were not. In mine shafts you placed the fire at the bottom of one shaft, that shaft acted as a chimney drawing air in at the bottom out of the mine. fresh air was drawn in via another shaft. This is quite different from what you suggest happened in WTC7 where a wind driven venturi effect is sucking smoke out of the top WTC 7, hence sucking smoke in, lower down.
Pictures of the flames coming out the north side suggest this is unlikely as the pressure difference would have had air entering not flames exiting.

Pity you didn't go to college or you could have perhaps worked that out for yourself........
 
Chris, are you an engineering professional? Because the frequency with which you are claiming knowledge that trumps other engineering professions is quickly escalating, and is troubling.

A wise man once told me "the less a man makes declarative statements, the less apt he is to look foolish in retrospect".
Maybe you don't know that I repeatedly call myself a layperson, an English/journalism major, etc. Here on JREF I sometimes toss out ideas for correction and discussion. People on both sides are quick to correct me if I'm wrong. I try to limit statements and assertions to things I've run by people who know more than I do first. If I'm not sure of something I try to frame it as a question. I don't make stuff up except as I am trying to understand a new concept.

Attacks on my honesty and my technical worthiness to weigh in on 9/11 provoke swift negative reaction, defensiveness, etc. because such attacks come only from the 9/11 truth side. They are not OK and I give everyone who brings up such accusations one polite reply, as I am giving you now. Corrections of my mistakes come from both sides. Hope this helps.
 
"Where are the photos of the Titanic sinking?"

There are ZERO pictures of the Titanic sinking.

The same cannot be said for 9/11.

As shown by myself and Christopher7, that vast amount of smoke on the southface of WTC7 does not reveal an equally vast amount of WTC7 fire.

WTC7's canyon-like location, chimney-like south face damage pattern, updrafting convection currents, significant fire activity only on a small group of lower floors, heavy drifting nearby smoke from the WTC6 inferno, no remarkable winds...

Of course WTC7's lower floor, migrating office furnishing's fires, produced a lot of smoke.

Given the updraft from WTC7's lower floor fires, and WTC7's cooperative damage pattern, the intense billowing smoke from across the street at WTC6, argues that smoke cupping up the WTC7 southface fails as proof of a conflagration.

What you have is a lot of smoke.

Unlike WTC1, WTC2, WTC5, WTC6, the only significant fire activity in the WTC7, was visually recorded on a few lower floors of the eastface.

MM
 
Ah no, they were not. In mine shafts you placed the fire at the bottom of one shaft, that shaft acted as a chimney drawing air in at the bottom out of the mine. fresh air was drawn in via another shaft. This is quite different from what you suggest happened in WTC7 where a wind driven venturi effect is sucking smoke out of the top WTC 7, hence sucking smoke in, lower down.

I think you must be responding to MM here, or have crossed wires somehere. Because I agree with you and my point was that it would take vigorous fire in WTC7 to suck in smoke from WTC5+6, and that fire is what MM denies. Incidentally the original mine ventilation furnaces were placed at the top of the exit shaft but, indeed, eventually the bottom as this worked better.
 
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Given the updraft from WTC7's lower floor fires, and WTC7's cooperative damage pattern, the intense billowing smoke from across the street at WTC6, argues that smoke cupping up the WTC7 southface fails as proof of a conflagration.

What you have is a lot of smoke.

Late in the day WTC6 fires were all but extinguished/burnt out.
This is late in the day, and that smoke isn't coming from WTC5+6:

wtc7lateafternoon.jpg
 
It's also ironic that one of the "inside jobbie" claims so fond of twoofers - the BBC newsclip with the premature report of the WTC7 collapse - shows large amounts of smoke issuing from said building.
 
Late in the day WTC6 fires were all but extinguished/burnt out.
This is late in the day, and that smoke isn't coming from WTC5+6:

[qimg]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg274/sap-guy/wtc7lateafternoon.jpg[/qimg]
That photo should be the nail in the coffin for the whole stupid small localized fires meme. I fully expect evasive maneuvering in response.
 
Late in the day WTC6 fires were all but extinguished/burnt out.
This is late in the day, and that smoke isn't coming from WTC5+6:

[qimg]http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg274/sap-guy/wtc7lateafternoon.jpg[/qimg]

Wow how have i never seen this picture of wtc7 burning before. Good post. I'll need to save that one.
 
Wow how have i never seen this picture of wtc7 burning before. Good post. I'll need to save that one.

Then compare it with the one below, to see how little WTC6 was adding, even earlier. Then bear in mind WTC5 was rather far away for its smoke to enter the fray and that its fires didn't even touch the bookstore on floor 3 ....

wtcheavysmoke.jpg
 
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