The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

[Craig4]

With some, a perceived win is a win. It's all about Pwning your opponent, not being right. My 8 year old does that; it's what children do.

I suspect there's something far more complicated going on here.

 

[Mudcat]

Where did you get the silly idea that covert, black budget programs have to be accounted for? Are you honestly under the impression that there is a government bean counter out there tracking every single dollar of U.S. government money?

Surely you jest.

No, I'm dead serious. I understand (as well most of the people on the forums by now) that you have never worked a day in your life but in the real world, when money goes missing in any organization (like, for examples the [insert agency here]) it's suspicious.

But like I also said, it's usually simple thievery rather than some grand conspiracy.

Now, you've explained what you believe:

Here is what I believe to be the case with regard to Al-Qaeda:

- The U.S. and/or the Israeli government secretly supported and funded the creation and ongoing maintenance of Al-Qaeda.
- The U.S. and/or the Israeli government monitored Al-Qaeda and knew of their 9/11 plans in advance.
- The U.S. and/or the Israeli government intended for the attacks to occur.
- The U.S. government allowed the attacks to happen.
- The U.S. government engaged in a cover-up which all but assured that the 9/11 Commission would fail and result in a whitewashing.
- Al-Qaeda couldn't have functionally existed without U.S. government acquiescence, therefore, ultimate responsibility for the 9/11 and other attacks rests with the U.S. government.

You've explained why you believe the government/Jews did all that:

Expanded domestic powers (Patriot Act)
Increased defense and other government spending
War
Expansion of empire/dominion abroad (military bases)
Greater control of/influence over foreign resources and markets (oil, natural gas, rare earth minerals, etc...)
Economic considerations (protection of petrodollar system)

But there's still one thing you have neglected to answer. Namely:

When have you came to this conclusion and what caused yoou to come to this conclusion?

 

[twinstead]

I suspect there's something far more complicated going on here.

Perhaps, but personally I don't see anything too sophisticated or surprising about SHC's approach.

 

[The Dark Lord]

Here is what I believe to be the case with regard to Al-Qaeda:

- The U.S. and/or the Israeli government secretly supported and funded the creation and ongoing maintenance of Al-Qaeda.
- The U.S. and/or the Israeli government monitored Al-Qaeda and knew of their 9/11 plans in advance.
- The U.S. and/or the Israeli government intended for the attacks to occur.
- The U.S. government allowed the attacks to happen.
- The U.S. government engaged in a cover-up which all but assured that the 9/11 Commission would fail and result in a whitewashing.
- Al-Qaeda couldn't have functionally existed without U.S. government acquiescence, therefore, ultimate responsibility for the 9/11 and other attacks rests with the U.S. government.

Where is your evidence? Oh that's right, your religious beliefs require no evidence whatsoever.

 

[332nd]

Yeah, but you should be used to that by now. After all, you swallowed everything the U.S. government asserted about Al-Qaeda and 9/11 and accepted whatever evidence they thought you should see without questioning it.

So why start now?

Is that what you really believe? Why? What led you to such an idiotic conclusion?

 

[SpringHallConvert]

No, I'm dead serious. I understand (as well most of the people on the forums by now) that you have never worked a day in your life but in the real world, when money goes missing in any organization (like, for examples the [insert agency here]) it's suspicious.

But like I also said, it's usually simple thievery rather than some grand conspiracy.

Who said anything about "missing" money?

A large portion of the money diverted to an agency like the CIA, which conducts top secret, covert operations, is not 100% tracked and accounted for, hence the term, "black budget". If all the money allocated to the CIA were tracked and audited by other government agencies, then nothing the CIA could do would truly be top secret or covert.

 

[Mudcat]

Who said anything about "missing" money?

To imply that an expenditure is "Black Book" is to imply that the expenditure isn't recorded in the books, thus the money seems to vanish. Don't you get that much?

A large portion of the money diverted to an agency like the CIA, which conducts top secret, covert operations, is not 100% tracked and accounted for, hence the term, "black budget".

No, really, what is your deal with the CIA? It isn't the only Intelligence Community, and I've provided a detailed list of them.

If all the money allocated to the CIA were tracked and audited by other government agencies, then nothing the CIA could do would truly be top secret or covert.

And that's why the oversight committee are all members with sufficient clearance to investigate the top secret and covert operations of [insert agency here]. Yeah, I know. It's shocking but even [insert agency here] has to answer to someone higher up the food chain and justify operations and expenditures.

 

[Craig4]

Perhaps, but personally I don't see anything too sophisticated or surprising about SHC's approach.

Oh no, clearly SHC is a sophistication free zone. However, the whole need to be a victor and his anti government paranoia I think have an interesting back story. This online world he's created where he always wins and is always in charge speaks volumes about what that back story might be.

 

[A W Smith]

Me? trust the goverment? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Who knows? There's a lot of cognitive dissonance out there. Nobody really wants to believe they live under a government that would murder or have them murdered in cold blood to start a war of aggression. Instead, they'd rather believe that their government is fair, just, honest, and working in their best interests.
This prevents people from looking at the 9/11 event and aftermath objectively.



It's a combination of several factors. A lot of people are yes, brainwashed. A lot of people are hamstrung by their own biases. A lot of people can't overcome their cognitive dissonance. A lot of people suffer from Stockholm syndrome. A lot of people work for or are dependent on the government and are incapable of biting the hand that feeds them.

My Mafia analogy is 100% unassailable because it's simply true.

You didn't grow up in the sixties like some of us? Did you child?

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Who knows? There's a lot of cognitive dissonance out there. Nobody really wants to believe they live under a government that would murder or have them murdered in cold blood to start a war of aggression. Instead, they'd rather believe that their government is fair, just, honest, and working in their best interests.

This prevents people from looking at the 9/11 event and aftermath objectively.

It's a combination of several factors. A lot of people are yes, brainwashed. A lot of people are hamstrung by their own biases. A lot of people can't overcome their cognitive dissonance. A lot of people suffer from Stockholm syndrome. A lot of people work for or are dependent on the government and are incapable of biting the hand that feeds them.

My Mafia analogy is 100% unassailable because it's simply true.

And on spins the silly.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

You didn't grow up in the sixties like some of us? Did you child?

Judging by his posts in the Holocaust denial thread, he grew up in the 30s and 40s.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Oh no, clearly SHC is a sophistication free zone. However, the whole need to be a victor and his anti government paranoia I think have an interesting back story. This online world he's created where he always wins and is always in charge speaks volumes about what that back story might be.

Me, I think "the government" took his lunch money.

 

[SpringHallConvert]

You didn't grow up in the sixties like some of us? Did you child?

No, why? Were there people back then who truly wanted to believe they lived under a murderous government, as opposed to simply just believing it?

If so, who would anybody want to believe such a thing? How is it in anyone's best interest to live under a murderous government?

 

[Craig4]

Me, I think "the government" took his lunch money.

That's probably a good analogy for what happened.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

How is it in anyone's best interest to live under a murderous government?

Go to google.com, click on "News" at the top of the page, type "Syria" and then hit "enter".

That is what a murderous government looks like. And if there were any justice in the universe, a wormhole leading straight to Damascus would open under the feet of every 9/11 twoofer so that we wouldn't have to listen to their bigoted ignorant asinine self-centered petulant whining anymore.

 

[A W Smith]

No, why? Were there people back then who truly wanted to believe they lived under a murderous government, as opposed to simply just believing it?

If so, who would anybody want to believe such a thing? How is it in anyone's best interest to live under a murderous government?

they didn't desire to believe it, but they simply believed it and were politically active. You however, are a classic slacktivist,

 

[SpringHallConvert]

Go to google.com, click on "News" at the top of the page, type "Syria" and then hit "enter".

That is what a murderous government looks like.

How many people has the Syrian government murdered compared to the U.S. government? How many innocent civilians have died in Iraq and Afghanistan since the phony "War on Terror" began?

I doubt the Syrian government could carry the U.S. government's jock strap in the murdering department.

 

[SpringHallConvert]

they didn't desire to believe it, but they simply believed it...

In other words, you didn't comprehend my post before responding to it?

I figured as much.

 

[A W Smith]

In other words, you didn't comprehend my post before responding to it?

I figured as much.

apparently you don't understand your own posts.

This prevents people from looking at the 9/11 event and aftermath objectively.

 

[Mudcat]

How many people has the Syrian government murdered compared to the U.S. government? How many innocent civilians have died in Iraq and Afghanistan since the phony "War on Terror" began?

I doubt the Syrian government could carry the U.S. government's jock strap in the murdering department.

To date (Oct 2011), Al-Assad’s crackdown, against the unarmed protestors, claimed the lives of 4000+ people, and injured 30000+. It has also imprisoned 40,000+ and left 50,000+ refugees, primarily in Turkey. A number of mass graves have been discovered, which suggests even higher numbers.

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq 319
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan 1,915
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan 1020
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq 1,487
Journalists - Iraq 348
Academics Killed - Iraq 448

I know what you're thinking and for once I happen to agree with you. War is a waste of life and resources and a traversity and there should be no reason for it.

However if no one stands up to this subhuman trash than how long until the next Nazi party comes along and starts executing people as they please for their own sick and twisted desires?