Merged "Iron-rich spheres" - scienctific explanation?

Christopher7 said:
The possibilities of what nano-thermite can do are not know by the public. This thread is about establishing temperatures far in excess of what office fires can attain. So far, you have not provided a viable alternative to the extreme temperatures of 2800oF and 3100oF it takes to melt iron and vaporize lead.[FONT=&quot]
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Appeals to magic are fun, aren't they?
 
Christopher7 said:
But that's only a part of the office contents. Even in the case of file cabinets, the lead vapors and the microscopic iron spheres would be carried away with the smoke, leaving only the largest iron spheres.

The possibilities of what nano-thermite can do are not know by the public. This thread is about establishing temperatures far in excess of what office fires can attain. So far, you have not provided a viable alternative to the extreme temperatures of 2800oF and 3100oF it takes to melt iron and vaporize lead.
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The mineral wool already had lead on it, when it was made.

Do you make up all this nonsense on your own?
 
Christopher7 said:
Nearly 6% of the WTC dust was iron microspheres compared to 0.04% in normal dust.
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Yeah, yeah, right. Now get back to the more recent question you were asked. How do you magical mystical supernanonbanano thermite melt a computer without being in contact with it?
 
Christopher7 said:
Nearly 6% of the WTC dust was iron microspheres compared to 0.04% in normal dust.
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Why do you spread lies.

Some samples of WTC dust for iron were, BDL (source Jones work; your claim debunked by an insane super truther). You are spreading a lie.


Below Detectable Level - like your facts and evidence for your inside job fantasy.

And I also need to know how your nano-thermite fantasy melts lead, vaporizes lead when it is not in contact with the lead? You don't know it WAS common for mineral wool to be contaminated with lead, back in the day.
 
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Christopher7 said:
No, Thee RJ Lee Group did. And you know so much better than they do. :rolleyes:
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What's the ultimate source of the RJ Lee dust? How much came from WTC1, hiw much from WTC2, how much came from WTC7, how much from WTC 7, how much from anywhere else?

Do you know better than RJ Lee? They said it came from fires, just like in an incinerator.
 
Christopher7 said:
Nearly 6% of the WTC dust was iron microspheres compared to 0.04% in normal dust.
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We all know where you got this figure. This was not claimed to be a definitive figure for the whole WTC site, was it? This was from a study and was concentrated in one site. Right?

Are you exaggerating for "truth" again?

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Christopher7 said:
No, Thee RJ Lee Group did. And you know so much better than they do. :rolleyes:
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The mineral wool already was contaminated with lead before 911. RJ Lee never gave a temperature. RJ Lee samples were taken after 8 months of clean up. 8 months of clean up vapors were on the desks and areas, on top when the sample tapes were laid on top dust. You are ignoring samples taken September 2001, and using data from May and June 2002. And you ignore much more. If you had something you would be famous.

Why not do a paper and publish you work? Do you have anything?
 
But that's only a part of the office contents. Even in the case of file cabinets, the lead vapors and the microscopic iron spheres would be carried away with the smoke, leaving only the largest iron spheres.
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leftysergeant said:
Prove it. Demonstrate the transport mechanism. You arer telling a fire fighter stuff that he cannot even imagine happening. I know how vaporized hydrocarbons would leave the file cabinet. They are in a gaseous state. Iron pellets or particles are not. Think for a change.
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What part of microscopic don't you understand? I said the largest iron spheres would be left behind.

C7 said:
The possibilities of what nano-thermite can do are not know by the public.
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Then stop talking about them until you have proof that they have properties different from the thermite that I have worked with.
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I am talking about extreme temperatures that office fires cannot attain.

You still haven't established that your superseekertnanobanano thermite can vaporize a computer without being in contact with it, without also lighting up the whole skyline of NYC. FAIL.
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I don't know how thermite was used but I can look at the data and see that it there is no other explanation for the extreme temperatures.
 
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Christopher7 said:
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You are talking to the folks here with that statement. Y'all say the witnesses who saw molten steel are all mistaken and you know better.
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The usual assertion is that there are things a lot more likely to be pouring out of the building in a shower of sparks than steel, and it is impossible to determine whether those sparks were steel from visual evidence alone. Therefore any statement that it was 100%, without a doubt, molten steel is false. There's considerable doubt.

The same holds true for the witnesses who heard and felt explosions...
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No one's contesting that. We're contesting equating explosions to explosives.

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You sound like a five year old. Just post the data.
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Why, if you won't accept it?
 
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Christopher7 said:
Games :rolleyes:
You are making the assertion that office fires produce iron spheres.
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I don't care if they do or don't. I'm not making any assertions about what they may or may not mean. Why would I? they were "expected"
It you that is imagining that they mean something so unless you think proving something just to yourself and the like of Clayton and Ergo, is getting twooferism anywhere, I suggest you get down to some serious research on the subject.
 
beachnut said:
The mineral wool already was contaminated with lead before 911. RJ Lee never gave a temperature. RJ Lee samples were taken after 8 months of clean up. 8 months of clean up vapors were on the desks and areas, on top when the sample tapes were laid on top dust. You are ignoring samples taken September 2001, and using data from May and June 2002. And you ignore much more. If you had something you would be famous.

Why not do a paper and publish you work? Do you have anything?
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Why don't you write the RJ Lee Group and tell them that they are wrong and you know better than they do about the stuff?
 
Christopher7 said:
What part of microscopic don't you understand? I said the largest iron spheres would be left behind.
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Dodging the question.

I talking about extreme temperatures that office fires cannot attain.
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Prove that these alleged temperatures existed and were only attainable on that day via thermite or derivatives.

I don't know how thermite was used but I can look at the data and see that it there is no other explanation for the extreme temperatures.
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Yet you have not specified what data or explained. I thought you said thermite wasn't germane to the thread?
 
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Christopher7 said:
The pressure of the dust cloud from the destruction of the TT pushed dust into places where passive dust does not go. The contaminates were the same throughout the building. Therefore, the lead covered fibers and the iron microspheres were carried by the TT dust cloud and were NOT deposited later.
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Thats a good theory, now show it to be actually true.

If an appreciable amount of lead vapors and iron microspheres contaminated the dust passively during the clean up, the areas where the dust was forced in by the pressure of the TT dust cloud would be noticeably different. It would have less contaminates.
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Thats a good theory, now show it to be actually true.

and no your putative "commonsense" does not count as proof:D
 
Christopher7 said:
By extreme I mean 2800-3100oF, but you knew that.
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What makes you think those temperatures were reached? RJ Lee never claims this. You said trash incinerators can produce iron micro-shperes. Do you have evidence the ones you claim as proof are special or different from these?
 
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