Dragon Family lawsuit against the United Nations

[Dancing David]

So, ask yourself if you can determine if I'm conscious or a mind controlled alter personality in 'sleep walking' mode. See the problem? When the possibility of mind control is included the situation becomes really tricky. Ordinary, without such mind control, we usually take for granted (except for solipsism) that all people who behave awake really are conscious. With the possibility of mind control the picture is not so simple.

Yup and you just assume that you aren't under the Mind Control of the Smurf Cabal because that is what they planted in your memories.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Sigh, does that mean you have studied how memory works, no. Often if you get ten peopel together ten years later, they will all remember the same event differently. Which is why journals, photos and video are better than humans at keeping memories fresh.

Here's a mind control record about subliminals for children: http://unintendedpenis.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/2228093740_bf8bce67a41.jpg

Oh, those children cartoons are sooo innocent.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Yup and you just assume that you aren't under the Mind Control of the Smurf Cabal because that is what they planted in your memories.

Smurf house? http://cdn.gs.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/msCeramicSmurfHouseMoneyBankSide.jpeg

Smurf house? http://farm1.staticflickr.com/57/223948733_288bb73e03_z.jpg?zz=1

 

[Craig4]

So your conspiracy theory ideas were just a form of trolling. So much for reliable standpoints. Flip-flopping personality. Or are you just trolling all the time?

Careful, as a chew toy you're starting to lose your flavor again. Do try to remember your role here.

 

[Craig4]

Really secret information could cause havoc if published, regardless of who publish it.

Sure but your insights clearly don't qualify as secret and the only havoc caused is from laughter.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Careful, as a chew toy you're starting to lose your flavor again. Do try to remember your role here.

Don't be fooled by the nasty tone in that post. Technically it's valid.

 

[Tomtomkent]

Don't be fooled by the nasty tone in that post. Technically it's valid.

So when are you going to validate any of your actual claims with actual evidence?

Or is Craigs assessment of your self given role also valid?

 

[Mojo]

Don't be fooled by the nasty tone in that post. Technically it's valid.

If lacking in self-awareness.

 

[Anders Lindman]

So when are you going to validate any of your actual claims with actual evidence?

Or is Craigs assessment of your self given role also valid?

Looks like my answers have been moved: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229131

 

[Anders Lindman]

To go back to the secret cabal, the Vatican is not the only player but a big player probably. Here is an interview with Malachi Martin, an ex Jesuit priest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TqtySnOAqM

When Martin talks about 'demons' think of mind control memes. For example, he said that the same demon can go on generation after generation. It's like an inherited thing. Very similar to how Svali described how bloodline families get mind controlled already from birth (and even before that as a fetus).

 

[Craig4]

Maybe start by proving mind control is possible.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Maybe start by proving mind control is possible.

See for example: http://nesara.insights2.org/Monarch.html

 

[Craig4]

See for example: http://nesara.insights2.org/Monarch.html

Those are just claims. I'm asking for evidence.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Those are just claims. I'm asking for evidence.

There is evidence of mind control such as MK Ultra. However, that's not the alter personality kind of mind control, at least not publicly admitted.

It's the alter personality mind control I'm looking mostly at. I have been thinking that the idea of an 'Illuminati' and other similar secret powers as doubtful because of:

1. The very long history of the secret power structure.

2. The lack of concrete official evidence for any monolithic secret power structure.

3. No whistleblower members have come out and been able to get the legal system to prosecute any secret power structure of immense size.

4. The ability of the secret power structure to work according to agendas and plans that stretch centuries.

5. The cold-blooded almost 'reptilian brain' and machine-like operations of the secret power structure seem beyond ordinary human traits.

6. The ability of the members of the secret power structure to infiltrate all forms of positions in society.

7. The effectiveness and coordination of large social control seems beyond anything an ordinary human organization would be capable of.

All these points become easy to explain with a shadow society that mind controls its own members generation to generation.

 

[Foolmewunz]

There is evidence of mind control such as MK Ultra. However, that's not the alter personality kind of mind control, at least not publicly admitted.

It's the alter personality mind control I'm looking mostly at. I have been thinking that the idea of an 'Illuminati' and other similar secret powers as doubtful because of:

1. The very long history of the secret power structure.

2. The lack of concrete official evidence for any monolithic secret power structure.

3. No whistleblower members have come out and been able to get the legal system to prosecute any secret power structure of immense size.

4. The ability of the secret power structure to work according to agendas and plans that stretch centuries.

5. The cold-blooded almost 'reptilian brain' and machine-like operations of the secret power structure seem beyond ordinary human traits.

6. The ability of the members of the secret power structure to infiltrate all forms of positions in society.

7. The effectiveness and coordination of large social control seems beyond anything an ordinary human organization would be capable of.

All these points become easy to explain with a shadow society that mind controls its own members generation to generation.

Awwww. And you were doing so well right up to the bolded sentence. It's almost like you've thought through all the solid reasons that your delusions are untrue and are ready to cross over to the light, but then said, "So, the only conclusion is that unicorns flying Sopwith Camels are sprinkling pixie dust in our corn flakes when we're not looking."

A rational human being reads through those seven points and after thinking about them says, "Hmm, so apparently I may have been wrong about all that craziness."

 

[Tomtomkent]

There is evidence of mind control such as MK Ultra. However, that's not the alter personality kind of mind control, at least not publicly admitted.

It's the alter personality mind control I'm looking mostly at. I have been thinking that the idea of an 'Illuminati' and other similar secret powers as doubtful because of:

1. The very long history of the secret power structure.

2. The lack of concrete official evidence for any monolithic secret power structure.

3. No whistleblower members have come out and been able to get the legal system to prosecute any secret power structure of immense size.

4. The ability of the secret power structure to work according to agendas and plans that stretch centuries.

5. The cold-blooded almost 'reptilian brain' and machine-like operations of the secret power structure seem beyond ordinary human traits.

6. The ability of the members of the secret power structure to infiltrate all forms of positions in society.

7. The effectiveness and coordination of large social control seems beyond anything an ordinary human organization would be capable of.

All these points become easy to explain with a shadow society that mind controls its own members generation to generation.

Perhaps you misunderstood.
You were asked for evidence, not further supposition.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Perhaps you misunderstood.
You were asked for evidence, not further supposition.

I mentioned MK Ultra as an example of evidence.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Awwww. And you were doing so well right up to the bolded sentence. It's almost like you've thought through all the solid reasons that your delusions are untrue and are ready to cross over to the light, but then said, "So, the only conclusion is that unicorns flying Sopwith Camels are sprinkling pixie dust in our corn flakes when we're not looking."

A rational human being reads through those seven points and after thinking about them says, "Hmm, so apparently I may have been wrong about all that craziness."

The 'Illuminati' is actually described very much the way listed by those points by many conspiracy researchers. So what I did was only to connect that already existing conspiracy theory with mind control as a mechanism that can explain it. Mind control on a subconscious level where the members of the shadow society act basically as mechanical robots without self-awareness.

 

[Craig4]

There is evidence of mind control such as MK Ultra. However, that's not the alter personality kind of mind control, at least not publicly admitted.

It's the alter personality mind control I'm looking mostly at. I have been thinking that the idea of an 'Illuminati' and other similar secret powers as doubtful because of:

1. The very long history of the secret power structure.

2. The lack of concrete official evidence for any monolithic secret power structure.

3. No whistleblower members have come out and been able to get the legal system to prosecute any secret power structure of immense size.

4. The ability of the secret power structure to work according to agendas and plans that stretch centuries.

5. The cold-blooded almost 'reptilian brain' and machine-like operations of the secret power structure seem beyond ordinary human traits.

6. The ability of the members of the secret power structure to infiltrate all forms of positions in society.

7. The effectiveness and coordination of large social control seems beyond anything an ordinary human organization would be capable of.

All these points become easy to explain with a shadow society that mind controls its own members generation to generation.

What was unclear about "provide evidence"?

 

[Craig4]

I mentioned MK Ultra as an example of evidence.

Produce evidence that MK Ultra ever successfully controlled anyone's mind.