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Rick Santorum is an idiot, a bigot, and morally inconsistent...

For those interested, the Washington Post Fact Checker is examining Santorum's descriptions of his political carreer. The first article concerns Santorum's involvement with Grover Norquist's "K Street Project."

-Bri
 
Robert Prey said:
The allegation is that RS is racist. A url cite was given. There is nothing racist there. Please give a direct quote from RS to prove your point.
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Robert, there is absolutely nothing that would convince you. If you saw Rick Santorm holding the rope at a lynching, you'd claim he was just trying to uplift the black people.
 
Tricky said:
Robert, there is absolutely nothing that would convince you. If you saw Rick Santorm holding the rope at a lynching, you'd claim he was just trying to uplift the black people.
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Cop out. There is no evidence whatever that RS is a racist or has ever said anything racist. The problem is, he is a God Fearing Conservative, and that's what Lefties just can't stomach.
 
All I know is that Santorum is like everything I hate about modern conservative politics all rolled up into one ball. Just thinking about him tends to bring out the worst in me.

See this post from a few months ago.

Travis said:
No. Santorum is the evil, despicable man. Upon his death I will dance for joy and make sure his children get a video of me doing it. That will be done so they can learn what a horrible man their father was and that the Earth is a better place now that he isn't polluting it with his presence.




Don't be surprised to reap venom when you sow bigotry and intolerance.
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Yeah.......not my best moment.
 
Robert Prey said:
The allegation is that RS is racist. A url cite was given. There is nothing racist there. Please give a direct quote from RS to prove your point.
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The url was a link to a post in this very thread that provided samples of 3 racist/bigoted comments made by Santorum where being tongue-tied was not even a possible excuse.

I was merely pointing out that what you're demanding has already been provided some time ago.
 
I've always been fascinated by the phrase "god fearing" when used as a positive thing.

I think it speaks poorly of both the individual and the referenced god.
 
Robert Prey said:
Cop out. There is no evidence whatever that RS is a racist or has ever said anything racist. The problem is, he is a God Fearing Conservative, and that's what Lefties just can't stomach.
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That rational people can't stomach a "God Fearing Conservative" is irrelevant to the claim that Santorum is racist. Our motives are irrelevant. Our arguments and the evidence stand on their own merits.

That you choose to re-define "racism" such that it can't possibly apply to Santorum is the sticking point.
 
Robert Prey said:
Cop out. There is no evidence whatever that RS is a racist or has ever said anything racist. The problem is, he is a God Fearing Conservative, and that's what Lefties just can't stomach.
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Whaaaa...we're being oppressed. Once upon a time, conservatives were against playing the victim.
 
Robert Prey said:
The problem is, he is a God Fearing Conservative, and that's what Lefties just can't stomach.
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I actually do have a hard time stomaching god fearing conservatives. I find them superstitious, weak-minded, and self-important hypocrites. I'd rather speak to someone more reality-based.
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
You mean you don't evaluate their credibility or their character as well? You'd vote for someone if he said he supported a certain configuration of political positions even if you thought he was a compulsive liar?

ETA: I notice you're ducking most of the questions being asked. Can you at least address the one about whether or not it is indeed within our human evolved mental capacity and our civic duty to evaluate the candidates in this way?

If only psychoanalysts can do this, how are we to function? Wouldn't we fall victim to every e-mail scam that comes along? Wouldn't we be unable to conduct any kind of negotiations on our own behalf (everything from job offers, to buying a house or a car) without the aid of a psychoanalyst?
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I agree that the character and integrity of a candidate is important. Of course, it can be difficult to make an accurate assessment. The politician and his campaign will be doing their damnedest to convince us that he's a wonderful person who spends most of his spare time helping little old ladies across the street, while his opponents will try to convince us that he's a scoundrel who spends most of his spare time kicking puppies.
 
L.Y.S. said:
Wait, why is it important how Santorum feels about blacks agains :/?
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Because he's running for president? While I think his chances of getting the nomination are just about zero, and his chances of getting elected if he does are the same, if he continues to do well in the caucuses and primaries, I think there is some chance that he could get the VP nomination. As suicidal as this seems to me to be for the Republican party, remember that this is the party that nominated Sarah Palin for VP in 2008. If choosing Santorum for VP doesn't cost the Republicans the election, as VP, he is a heart attack or assassination away from being president. This would be enough to keep me from voting for the Republican nominee, whoever he might be. The possibility of Santorum as president, no matter how low the probability, is simply unthinkable.
 
Tricky said:
Because he's Typhoid Mary for the horrible disease called "racism". The US suffered tremendously from this disease for many years and though it has died down somewhat, it is still virulent and powerful and can flare up when a powerful strain is injected into society. While it is true that Santorum will probably never hold an important office again, he can still be a firebrand and a carrier for racism, homophobia, mysogeny and other sorts of diseases of hatred that plague civilization. We can only hope that exposure to Rick Santorum, like some vaccines work, will make our people's resistance to such ugly infections even stronger. But that's not a sure thing. He's certainly built up a colony of hate-infected people around him, so there must still be some people susceptible to the memetic germs he carries.
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Racism, homophobia and theocracy. Not only is Santorum a racist, he is a rabid homophobe, and he clearly wants to legislate the values of the most fundamentalist, sexually repressive element of Christianity into law. To put it briefly, he represents the worst elements of the Republican Party. While I would prefer a more fiscally conservative, free market policy than the Obama administration is practicing, there is no way I would vote for a ticket with Rick Santorum or anybody like him in on it, as either the presidential or VP candidate. I would vastly prefer the Democrats' economic foolishness to seeing this country run by the Christian equivalent of the Taliban.
 
Robert Prey said:
Cop out. There is no evidence whatever that RS is a racist or has ever said anything racist. The problem is, he is a God Fearing Conservative, and that's what Lefties just can't stomach.
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santorum would legislate against birth control, let alone abortion.
he thinks queers should be criminalized too.
the man is the christian equivalent of the taliban.

and you support him?:boggled:
 
Travis said:
All I know is that Santorum is like everything I hate about modern conservative politics all rolled up into one ball. Just thinking about him tends to bring out the worst in me.

See this post from a few months ago.



Yeah.......not my best moment.
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Such a response is so very much akin to holding up a silver cross in the face of a bunch of vampires.
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
The url was a link to a post in this very thread that provided samples of 3 racist/bigoted comments made by Santorum where being tongue-tied was not even a possible excuse.

I was merely pointing out that what you're demanding has already been provided some time ago.
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And what was just one of those racist comments, if you please?
 
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