Canada may exit Kyoto pact to save $$$$$

[applecorped]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...7-billion-bill-by-exiting-kyoto-protocol.html

"Canada, the country furthest from meeting its commitment to cut carbon emissions under the Kyoto Protocol, may save as much as $6.7 billion by exiting the global climate change agreement and not paying for offset credits.

Canada, which has the world’s third-largest proven oil reserves, would be the first of 191 signatories to the Kyoto Protocol to annul its emission-reduction obligations. While Environment Minister Peter Kent declined to confirm Nov. 28 that Canada is preparing to pull out of Kyoto, which may ease the burden for oil-sands producers and coal-burning utilities, he said the government wouldn’t make further commitments to it. "


Won't be the last.

 

[theprestige]

Several gentlemen of independent means get together and make a solemn pact to each shoot themselves in the foot.

One of them, after losing a toe this way, concludes that the whole idea is stupid, and decides to renege on the pact.

 

[Roma]

Canada exiting the Kyoto pact ? About bloody time.

 

[WildCat]

Canada exiting the Kyoto pact ? About bloody time.

Nothing but up side for Canada in global warming.

 

[D'rok]

Nothing but up side for Canada in global warming.

Good thing none of us live in cities that get their water from glacier-fed rivers.

D'oh!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Saskatchewan_River

 

[WildCat]

Good thing none of us live in cities that get their water from glacier-fed rivers.

D'oh!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Saskatchewan_River

I don't think the rivers are in danger even in a worst-case scenario. The river will still flow, whether from snow melt or rains. Whether the precipitation falls as rain or snow makes no difference, it all flows downhill.

 

[bikerdruid]

I don't think the rivers are in danger even in a worst-case scenario. The river will still flow, whether from snow melt or rains. Whether the precipitation falls as rain or snow makes no difference, it all flows downhill.

wow...just, wow.

 

[SezMe]

Several gentlemen of independent means get together and make a solemn pact to each shoot themselves in the foot.

One of them, after losing a toe this way, concludes that the whole idea is stupid, and decides to renege on the pact.

Now, a generation later, the gentlemen and their offspring are no longer of independent means.

 

[WildCat]

wow...just, wow.

Another quality post there bd.

And your inability to detect a joke is noted.

 

[SezMe]

And your inability to detect a joke is noted.

If that was a joke, WildCat, you need to fire your writers and get some new talent.

 

[Corsair 115]

Nothing but up side for Canada in global warming.

According to a report—commissioned by the federal government—climate change will cost Canada $5 billion per year by 2020 and between $21-$43 billion per year by the 2050s.

News article here.
Report web site here.

 

[McHrozni]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...7-billion-bill-by-exiting-kyoto-protocol.html

"Canada, the country furthest from meeting its commitment to cut carbon emissions under the Kyoto Protocol, may save as much as $6.7 billion by exiting the global climate change agreement and not paying for offset credits.

Canada, which has the world’s third-largest proven oil reserves, would be the first of 191 signatories to the Kyoto Protocol to annul its emission-reduction obligations. While Environment Minister Peter Kent declined to confirm Nov. 28 that Canada is preparing to pull out of Kyoto, which may ease the burden for oil-sands producers and coal-burning utilities, he said the government wouldn’t make further commitments to it. "


Won't be the last.

Kyoto was horribly designed from the start. One had to be a severe retard not to figure out immediately that forcing developed nations to reduce emissions while at the same time permitting others to increase them will result primarily in pollution migrating from developed nations - which have some standards as to mitigate it as far as possible - to developing nations, which have little to no such standards. The best case scenario for the planet is roughly zero and I sincierly doubt we've seen anything near the best case scenario.

It's fine if you want to shift development to the people who live in poverty, I can symapthize with that. Just don't pretend you're doing it for the planet when you're not.

McHrozni

 

[Roma]

Canada exiting the Kyoto pact ? About bloody time.

This and fifty other reasons why Kyoto is a political scam:
(My degree is in geography not politics, but this scam really makes me angry)

below is taken from: http://www.akdart.com/warming2.html

The Kyoto Protocol will be costly and do nothing to prevent global warming — even if humans are causing it. Proposed domestic actions to reduce greenhouse gas emissions would cost only slightly less than Kyoto and would do even less to prevent global warming. Therefore, they merit even less consideration.

 

[Hallo Alfie]

If that was a joke, WildCat, you need to fire your writers and get some new talent.

I thought it was pretty good.

 

[BobHaulk]

That's good news, why should the chinese be able to not give a monkeys about the environment and make a fortune while those in the west put stupid taxes on everything leaving us almost bankrupt. Time for the global warming nuts to go away and stop boring us to death.

 

[Hallo Alfie]

That's good news, why should the chinese be able to not give a monkeys about the environment and make a fortune while those in the west put stupid taxes on everything leaving us almost bankrupt. Time for the global warming nuts to go away and stop boring us to death.

This ^^^

The boring us to death bit in particular.

They really should shoosh; they're scaring the kiddies and they (not the kiddies) seem to like it. It's called bullying.

 

[Aepervius]

This is the tragedy of pooled resource which are shared by everybody but policed by nobody.

In our case, the ability to belch CO2 in the atmosphere and potentially having hefty effect on our climate. It is a pooled, but there are no incencitive per country to curb its emission. Kyoto was an attempt at that, and it is failing. What will replace it ? probably nothing, and the way I see it, all governement will simply now go for a run-away carbon usage , use as much as they can from the pool and profit from it as much as possible before we all get potentially ********** up. Like having a single pie before starving, everybody attempt to eat as much as from it as quick from it rather than conserve. ETA: and the reponse in this thread are a perfect example of this.

< egoistical thought >
I am glad I am 40, I'll probably never go thru the full effect of global warming.
< /egoistical thought >

 

[SezMe]

This is the tragedy of pooled resource which are shared by everybody but policed by nobody.

Yep. It's the classic Tragedy of the Commons.

< egoistical thought >
I am glad I am 40, I'll probably never go thru the full effect of global warming.
< /egoistical thought >

I don't think that is an egotistical remark at all. It's how I feel but really feel bad for my kids. And some folks like some in this thread will also never pay for their tragic rejection of science and economics.

 

[D'rok]

I don't think the rivers are in danger even in a worst-case scenario. The river will still flow, whether from snow melt or rains. Whether the precipitation falls as rain or snow makes no difference, it all flows downhill.

This river will not exist after the glacier is gone. It is a glacier meltwater river.

 

[D'rok]

Another quality post there bd.

And your inability to detect a joke is noted.

Note it for me too. I thought you were serious about the river thing.