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On the Cain Train

Cain Confident He Can Win Nomination, Says Harassment Claims Are 'Baseless' — PBS Newshour

Herman Cain: My China strategy is quite simply outgrow China. It gets back to economics. China has a $6 trillion economy and they're growing at approximately 10 percent. We have a $14 trillion economy -- much bigger -- but we're growing at an anemic 1.5, 1.6 percent. When we get our economy growing back at the rate of 5 or 6 percent that it has the ability to do, we will outgrow China.
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Uh... :wwt
 
Drip, drip, drip...

Cain said:
she ended up leaving with several months severance, which would have been what she would have left with if we had involuntarily dismissed her. I don't know if it was three months, whether it was two months, it might have been six months.
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NY Times said:
The National Restaurant Association gave $35,000 — a year’s salary — in severance pay to a female staff member ... three people with direct knowledge of the payment said on Tuesday. link
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Whatever his business skills are, crisis management isn't amongst.
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
And speaking of the Cain sense of humor. . in 2006, he wrote a column suggesting that the GOP begin grooming (pre-scandal) Tiger Woods for a run at the presidency in 2016.

Now he claims that was just a joke too.

I find that so very difficult to swallow since we've had the likes of Trump reported as leading the polls in this race, proving that there is no candidate so absurd that parody is self-evident.

Please, take a moment to read this column and tell me if you think it was meant to be comedy, or if it wasn't straight-up sincere.

http://economicfreedomcoalition.com/news/press-opinion-121306.asp

It would be different if Cain had said simply that he was writing about a person who he thought had the traits he spoke of in the article. Since the sex-scandals have come to light, he respectfully retracts his suggestion.
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Quite clearly not an intentional joke. It is worthy of laughter though for sheer foolishness.

Why on earth would prowess at a sport be any kind of qualification for president?

Tiger's success on the golf course, which will translate to success in the White House, is a product of his character, discipline and leadership by example.
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:dl:
 
HumanityBlues said:
Any chance Cain had at winning the nomination is gone. It's over for him. He wasn't even a good liar on this one. On TV he said he didn't know if the National Restaurant Association settled with the people who claimed harassment even though he he was the freaking CEO of the National Restaurant Association.
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I'm not too sure that he's a goner for the nomination, personally. He is still doing pretty good in many GOP polls, and he remains quite the darling of the Tea Party fringe.

Of course, the GOP political wonks are probably pissing themselves in fear that he might win the nomination, in which case he would simply be crushed in the general election.

I would also be shocked if this harassment news wasn't leaked by the Romney or Perry campaigns. I don't think the democrats have any real incentive to ruin his chances at getting the nomination as he would be a dream candidate for them (because he has no chance).
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I have wondered this myself. Though I have to say that if the Romney campaign leaked the news, then they may have miscalculated on the fanaticism of the Tea Party, anybody-but-Romney crowd within the GOP. My guess is this sort of thing is simply going to make those folks become more supportive of Cain.
 
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MattusMaximus said:
I'm not too sure that he's a goner for the nomination, personally. He is still doing pretty good in many GOP polls, and he remains quite the darling of the Tea Party fringe.

Of course, the GOP political wonks are probably pissing themselves in fear that he might win the nomination, in which case he would simply be crushed in the general election.



I have wondered this myself. Though I have to say that if the Romney campaign leaked the news, then they may have miscalculated on the fanaticism of the Tea Party, anybody-but-Romney crowd within the GOP. My guess is this sort of thing is simply going to make those folks become more supportive of Cain.
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Well, I still tend to think they have no chance, but then again, I can't entirely dismiss your analysis because I nothing surprises me with the GOP these days.
 
They had the Politico guy on Diane Rehm yesterday. They approached the Cain campaign 10 days before confronting him....To no response whatever.
When confronted, Cain flubbed with a textbook "how to flub a controversy" series of denials, deflections, and blame-shifting.
A hilarious show if the man was not a possibility for the Oval Office.
 
Bikewer said:
They had the Politico guy on Diane Rehm yesterday. They approached the Cain campaign 10 days before confronting him....To no response whatever.
When confronted, Cain flubbed with a textbook "how to flub a controversy" series of denials, deflections, and blame-shifting.
A hilarious show if the man was not a possibility for the Oval Office.
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Now one of his accusers is considering going public. If she does, Cain is toast.
 
Bri said:
CBS’s “Face the Nation,” October 30, 2011:

Bob Schieffer: OK. I want to ask you, since we're on the subject of abortion, there was, at one point back there when the question of Planned Parenthood came up, and you said that it was not Planned Parenthood, it was really planned genocide because you said Planned Parenthood was trying to put all these centers into the black communities because they wanted to kill black babies --

Herman Cain : Yes.

Scheiffer: -- before they were born. Do you still stand by that?

Cain: I still stand by that.

Schieffer: Do you have any proof that that was the objective of Planned Parenthood?

Cain: If people go back and look at the history and look at Margaret Sanger's own words, that's exactly where that came from. Look up the history. So if you go back and look up the history -- secondly, look at where most of them were built; 75 percent of those facilities were built in the black community -- and Margaret Sanger's own words, she didn't use the word "genocide," but she did talk about preventing the increasing number of poor blacks in this country by preventing black babies from being born.​

Just to save you from having to "go back and look up the history" the Washington Post Fact Checker does it for you:

No matter what you think of abortion, it seems pretty clear that Cain is spouting historical fiction. There is no evidence that Sanger ever sought to kill black babies, either through the Negro Project or any other endeavor. Cain’s claim that three-quarters of Planned Parenthood’s facilities are in black neighborhoods also appears wildly exaggerated.​

-Bri
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And something the black community has no need of is prenatal care either. Only a racist would want them to have healthy pregnancies.
 
Bri said:
She's asking Cain to release her from her gag order. This kind of puts him in a tight spot. If he refuses, it looks like he's hiding something.
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Cain isn't in a position to release her; it has to come from the organization. Cain has been asked to ask the organization, to which he replied with some Cain-esque mumbo jumbo.
 
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is reporting some possible federal campaign and tax law violations by the Cain campaign:


Herman Cain's two top campaign aides ran a private Wisconsin-based corporation that helped the GOP presidential candidate get his fledgling campaign off the ground by originally footing the bill for tens of thousands of dollars in expenses for such items as iPads, chartered flights and travel to Iowa and Las Vegas - something that might breach federal tax and campaign law, according to sources and documents.

Internal financial records obtained by No Quarter show that Prosperity USA said it was owed about $40,000 by the Cain campaign for a variety of items in February and March. Cain began taking donations for his presidential bid on Jan. 1.

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The authenticity of the records was verified by two individuals close to the firm.

It is not known if Cain's election fund eventually paid back Prosperity USA, which now appears defunct. The candidate's federal election filings make no mention of the debt, and the figures in the documents don't match payments made by the candidate's campaign.

In addition to picking up these expenses at least initially, Prosperity USA also paid as much as $100,000 to the Congress of Racial Equality, a conservative black organization, shortly before Cain was a featured speaker at the group's annual Martin Luther King Jr. dinner in mid-January.

Cain, who has surged to a top-tier presidential candidate in the past month, apparently was not paid for the appearance. The personal financial disclosure forms for the former CEO of Godfather's Pizza list no honorariums for speeches.

Election law experts say the transactions raise a host of questions for the private organization, which billed itself as a tax-exempt nonprofit, and the Cain team.

"If the records accurately reflect what occurred, this is way out of bounds," said a Washington, D.C.-based election lawyer who advises many Republican candidates and conservative groups on campaign issues. The lawyer asked not to be identified because of those affiliations.

Michael Maistelman, a Wisconsin campaign attorney, agreed.
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-Bri
 
DavidJames said:
This issue is not what happened 20 years ago, it's about how he's reacted in the last week as documented in this thread. Ignorance and lies, or maybe just all lies. Like many issues with politicians, it's more about them covering up then about what they are trying to hide.
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We are in agreement on this point. Surely he must have suspected this would
surface and should have known what he was going to say. The fact that he wasn't prepared and waddled around with his answers is certainly troubling.

Any of these would have probably been acceptable
I was accused of sexual harrasment I feel I did nothing wrong but a settlement was reached.

I was accused of sexual harrasment I feel I did nothing wrong but cannot comment because of confidentiality.

Or a Mea culpa statement if he had in fact done something wrong. Indicating that he had learned from his experience 20 years ago.
 
eeyore1954 said:
We are in agreement on this point. Surely he must have suspected this would
surface and should have known what he was going to say. The fact that he wasn't prepared and waddled around with his answers is certainly troubling.
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Apparently he had at least 10 days warning it was going to come out.
 
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