Ed Perry's property named ******head

[daredelvis]

I think we agree, but the terminology is wrong (but may be what's used in your area).

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I think we do too. Perry did not own the land and it sounds like questionable word was obscured by his family when they started using the land. Everything else is hearsay and anonymous sources.

Totally unrelated to Perry, I doubt that name was originally chosen because that was the standard term used by the owner to describe an outcropping of rock and nothing else. This is Texas we are talking about.

Daredelvis

 

[varwoche]

So let me get this straight. Perry occasionally hunts on this lease property. He didn't name it. Didn't buy it so he can't rename it but he leases it and somehow this is evidence of racism..

Great, another commenter who hasn't read the story, hasn't read the thread. (Like, Perry's defense is that he did in fact rename it, or un-name it if you prefer. Nor has Perry been accused of being a racist.)

You ever been a renter (or leaser)? If there was an offensive sign on the door of your apartment, would you say "Oh well. I don't own it, and I didn't write the sign, so who cares?" And now picture yourself as an elected official, hosting parties for colleagues and other politicians at this apartment.

It's patently ridiculous to write off ******head on this basis.

 

[mhaze]

The part that I've seen unchallenged as an assumption is that N--head was the actual name of the ranch. The existence of that phrase on a rock even if near the entrance to the ranch does not prove up that was the name of the ranch, especially given the archaic use of the phrase FOR A ROCK.

Granted, the name as described on the company charter or deed might be different, and the N--head could have sort of been a slang term in common use in that area for the ranch.

If it was the actual name of the ranch, I gotta see that set of cattle brands.

Just wondering about that point.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

A bit off topic (maybe?), but when I was a kid, there were these certain licorice candies that were called n*****heads.

 

[Spindrift]

The part that I've seen unchallenged as an assumption is that N--head was the actual name of the ranch. The existence of that phrase on a rock even if near the entrance to the ranch does not prove up that was the name of the ranch, especially given the archaic use of the phrase FOR A ROCK.

Granted, the name as described on the company charter or deed might be different, and the N--head could have sort of been a slang term in common use in that area for the ranch.

If it was the actual name of the ranch, I gotta see that set of cattle brands.

Just wondering about that point.

Perry did not lease a ranch, he leased a camp on the Hendrick ranch. And that camp was know locally as N----head. And the word is offensive. The proof is that the locals admitted that's what they called it.

Whether or not it's the official name of the place is irrelevant.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

I think we do too. Perry did not own the land and it sounds like questionable word was obscured by his family when they started using the land. Everything else is hearsay and anonymous sources.

If it's a question of timing.

What if the name was not obscured untill AFTER he was governor?

 

[Skepticemea]

I think there are enough real issues against Perry becoming the Republican candidate for POTUS that trump a rock with paint on it.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

I think there are enough real issues against Perry becoming the Republican candidate for POTUS that trump a rock with paint on it.

True, but I think it's symptomatic of Perry's cynical political pandering.

From the sound of it, the rock wasn't flipped over untill after he started bringing his fellow lawmakers to the ranch.

 

[Skepticemea]

True, but I think it's symptomatic of Perry's cynical political pandering.

From the sound of it, the rock wasn't flipped over untill after he started bringing his fellow lawmakers to the ranch.

Replace Perry with "A N OTHER", but you're correct, of course.

 

[mhaze]

Perry did not lease a ranch, he leased a camp on the Hendrick ranch. And that camp was know locally as N----head. And the word is offensive. The proof is that the locals admitted that's what they called it.

Whether or not it's the official name of the place is irrelevant.

SO....it doesn't matter if it was his parents that leased it, it doesn't matter if the rock was painted over at his request, somehow if some of the locals called it one thing or another means PERRY BAD GUY!!!

BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!

That's idiotic. Keep it up, it's entertaining.

Hey....tell ya what. Let's start enumerating buildings owned by Democrats that once upon a time had the phrase "Coloreds" over one of the restrooms.

You really want to go down this road?

 

[mhaze]

If it's a question of timing.

What if the name was not obscured untill AFTER he was governor?

What if you only beat your wife on Tuesdays?

 

[varwoche]

SO....it doesn't matter if it was his parents and Perry that leased it, it doesn't matter if the rock was painted over at his request

Translation: Despite contradictory reporting, I take Perry's word without question.

Plus a correction.

 

[mhaze]

Actually, yes...

Rather than fall into your propagandist's method, which is incidentally a logical error, of trying to prove a negative.

 

[Spindrift]

SO....it doesn't matter if it was his parents that leased it, it doesn't matter if the rock was painted over at his request, somehow if some of the locals called it one thing or another means PERRY BAD GUY!!!

BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!

That's idiotic. Keep it up, it's entertaining.

Hey....tell ya what. Let's start enumerating buildings owned by Democrats that once upon a time had the phrase "Coloreds" over one of the restrooms.

You really want to go down this road?

Where did I say Perry was a bad guy? I've actually said that I think this is a lot of to do about nothing. But it doesn't change the fact that the place was called N*****head, no matter how you try to spin it. The word is offensive.

You were the one claiming that N*****head was not the name of the place, when it simply was. Get over it, it was called that, at some point the word was painted over. Does it reflect badly on Perry? Yeah. Should it? meh. I don't know and I don't really care. Personally I think he's got plenty of other issues of real substance.

And there's no reason to travel down a road of more irrelevancy.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Lyndon Johnson wept.

At least when he said ******, there was no ambiguity about his intention.
He also learned, eventually, to stop saying that.

 

[varwoche]

Actually, yes...

Rather than fall into your propagandist's method, which is incidentally a logical error, of trying to prove a negative.

While I appreciate the frank admission that you take Perry's word at face value despite contradictory reporting, this is laughable. It's like that Charlie-the-Tuna thing I mentioned to you once before. He'd try to say the right things to impress Starkist, but he fundamentally didn't get it, and this was obvious to everyone but him.

 

[mhaze]

Which is why I asked the question about the actual titled name of the ranch, thinking it would be in the county records. But if this is only a subsection, and you are not happy with taking Perry's word on the matter, there is yet one other way to definitively prove that the ranch was or was not actually named offensively.

Ask for a copy of the hunting lease.

If on the contrary the ranch simply acquired a nickname, based on a phrase on a rock, then that would be simply no different than a thousand other locations in the US which had names changed in those decades.

 

[BenBurch]

It makes no difference if he was democrat, republican, communist, or national socialist party,

for anyone with political aspirations, even way back in the 1980's, even in Texas, it was the height of senseless stupidity to ignore that, which he apparently did.

Yes. Which party he was in does not excuse this. I'd think the GOP members here would be thrilled to have the opportunity to nominate Romney, a much better candidate.

 

[mhaze]

Yes. Which party he was in does not excuse this. I'd think the GOP members here would be thrilled to have the opportunity to nominate Romney, a much better candidate.

A Democrat took his political cronies he took to a hunting ranch which had was referred to locally as N---head Camp. They were likely all Democrats.

Nobody ever said a word.

Then he turned to Republican and ran for President of the US.

Suddenly it's a big issue.

The Republican is guilty because he's a Republican even though at the time the events occurred he was a Democrat.

Wait....so he LEFT THE PARTY OF THE KKK? About the time Senator Robert Byrd, your Democrat, and a former star recruiter for the KKK was prominent in your party?

Cool...I like that.

http://biggovernment.com/mzak/2010/07/16/the-ku-klux-klan-terrorist-wing-of-the-democratic-party/

... all those who wore sheets a long time ago lifted them to wear Democratic Party clothing. Yes, the Ku Klux Klan was established by the Democratic Party. Yes, the Ku Klux Klan murdered thousands of Republicans — African-American and white – in the years following the Civil War. Yes, the Republican Party and a Republican President, Ulysses Grant, destroyed the KKK with their Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871.
How did the Ku Klux Klan re-emerge in the 20th century? For that, the Democratic Party is to blame.
It was a racist Democrat President, Woodrow Wilson, who premiered Birth of a Nation in the White House. That racist movie was based on a racist book written by one of Wilson’s racist friends from college. In 1915, the movie spawned the modern-day Klan, with its burning crosses and white sheets.
Inspired by the movie, some Georgia Democrats revived the Klan. Soon, the Ku Klux Klan again became a powerful force within the Democratic Party. The KKK so dominated the 1924 Democratic Convention that Republicans, speaking truth to power, called it the Klanbake. In the 1930s, a Democrat President, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, appointed a Klansman, Senator Hugo Black (D-AL), to the U.S. Supreme Court. In the 1950s, the Klansmen against whom the civil rights movement struggled were Democrats. The notorious police commissioner Bull Connor, who attacked African-Americans with dogs and clubs and fire hoses, was both a Klansman and the Democratic Party’s National Committeeman for Alabama. Starting in the 1980s, the Democratic Party elevated a recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan, Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV), to third-in-line for the presidency.
Speaking more Truth to Power, the Republican Party has been a resolute enemy of the Ku Klux Klan, terrorist wing of the Democratic Party.

Yes, your esteemed Senator Robert Byrd speaks here:

"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. ”

— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944

And here:

In 1946 or 1947, Byrd wrote a letter to a Grand Wizard stating, "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."​

Yeah, maybe we should forget about this smear on Perry. Because it turns out it's more of a smear on the hypocrits, bigots, predudiced, and small minded racists that he left the party of.

And now you'd like to think you can turn it around into a negative on Perry.

Pretty funny, dudes.

 

[Spindrift]

A Democrat took his political cronies he took to a hunting ranch which had was referred to locally as N---head Camp. They were likely all Democrats.

Nobody ever said a word.

Then he turned to Republican and ran for President of the US.

Suddenly it's a big issue.

The Republican is guilty because he's a Republican even though at the time the events occurred he was a Democrat.

Wait....so he LEFT THE PARTY OF THE KKK? About the time Senator Robert Byrd, your Democrat, and a former star recruiter for the KKK was prominent in your party?

Cool...I like that.

http://biggovernment.com/mzak/2010/07/16/the-ku-klux-klan-terrorist-wing-of-the-democratic-party/

... all those who wore sheets a long time ago lifted them to wear Democratic Party clothing. Yes, the Ku Klux Klan was established by the Democratic Party. Yes, the Ku Klux Klan murdered thousands of Republicans — African-American and white – in the years following the Civil War. Yes, the Republican Party and a Republican President, Ulysses Grant, destroyed the KKK with their Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871.
How did the Ku Klux Klan re-emerge in the 20th century? For that, the Democratic Party is to blame.
It was a racist Democrat President, Woodrow Wilson, who premiered Birth of a Nation in the White House. That racist movie was based on a racist book written by one of Wilson’s racist friends from college. In 1915, the movie spawned the modern-day Klan, with its burning crosses and white sheets.
Inspired by the movie, some Georgia Democrats revived the Klan. Soon, the Ku Klux Klan again became a powerful force within the Democratic Party. The KKK so dominated the 1924 Democratic Convention that Republicans, speaking truth to power, called it the Klanbake. In the 1930s, a Democrat President, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, appointed a Klansman, Senator Hugo Black (D-AL), to the U.S. Supreme Court. In the 1950s, the Klansmen against whom the civil rights movement struggled were Democrats. The notorious police commissioner Bull Connor, who attacked African-Americans with dogs and clubs and fire hoses, was both a Klansman and the Democratic Party’s National Committeeman for Alabama. Starting in the 1980s, the Democratic Party elevated a recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan, Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV), to third-in-line for the presidency.
Speaking more Truth to Power, the Republican Party has been a resolute enemy of the Ku Klux Klan, terrorist wing of the Democratic Party.

Yes, your esteemed Senator Robert Byrd speaks here:

"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. ”

— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944

And here:

In 1946 or 1947, Byrd wrote a letter to a Grand Wizard stating, "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."​

Yeah, maybe we should forget about this smear on Perry. Because it turns out it's more of a smear on the hypocrits, bigots, predudiced, and small minded racists that he left the party of.

And now you'd like to think you can turn it around into a negative on Perry.

Pretty funny, dudes.

Robert Byrd was a racist. You think anyone is going to defend him?

Just because one side has idiots, doesn't make an idiot on the other side any less of an idiot.