Merged Does CERN prove Einstein wrong?

dasmiller said:
grmcdorman beat you to it ;)

Yes, I agree that for Anders' claim about overall dimensions, you can easily measure the surviving Saturns.
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He'll just claim that the ones launched were not the same :rolleyes:
 
Spindrift said:
Going by past history, I think you can tell if Ander's claim is accurate simply by the fact that it's Ander's claim.
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Very true.

Anders lives in a world were everything is a hoax or fake, even if it wouldn't be necessary to hoax it under any circumstance or would be easier not to hoax it.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Another hilarious claim is that someone traveling in a rocket around Earth near the speed of light will speed up the entire universe. Fairy tales, folks. A Big Lie con job. Don't let obedience to authorities blind you from critical thinking.
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Superman was a movie, not a physics book.

No -- no-one claims a fast object will make the universe speed up! You don't seem to understand the concept of "reference frame."
 
Greedo said:
Anders lives in a world were everything is a hoax or fake, even if it wouldn't be necessary to hoax it under any circumstance or would be easier not to hoax it.
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He can see through most of the NWO's schemes, but he hasn't yet spotted the Big One. He still thinks we're real.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Because I said that Einstein's theories were wrong before CERN made this announcement. So it confirms my earlier statements. The conspiracy is to protect the hoax theory of relativity, not to disprove it as CERN is doing now.
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So why did CERN announce this one?
 
nomuse said:
So why did CERN announce this one?
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It was released to "bury bad news". There was an even more damaging revelation which Anders hasn't spotted because he's been concentrating on this story.

Operation Deflection has been a complete success. <evil laugh...>
 
nomuse said:
So why did CERN announce this one?
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It's a test. You see, the Council of Sarkovian Overlords created this planet centuries ago in order to determine whether Prince Sheshkatilla (whom we know as Anders) is worthy to take the throne of the Teskafillakula Star Empire. In due time, if the young Prince is able to see through the subterfuge created by his Overlord taskmasters, he will pass the test and take his rightful place as High Lord and Ruler of this entire cluster of galaxies.

Or he could just be a troll.
 
Greedo said:
He'll just claim that the ones launched were not the same :rolleyes:
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I will restate my post from a "moon hoax" thread here to make it clear:

AL is an ignorant, lazy, and dishonest troll.

Not only does he not know anything about the subject under discussion, and refuses to do any work or even listen to explanations provided to him, he simply doesn't care. He just makes things up to get attention. Don't indulge him.

As I pointed out in on the other thread, the "shrinking Saturn V" is an especially ridiculous fantasy, which I rebutted in post 54 and post 57, as well as post 61 in which I listed the Saturn V launch history. And, of course in post 122 I pointed out that there was only one facility which could stack and launch the Saturn V, and that all the Saturn V flight hardware is accounted for. I cited references, provided the data, and noted that I could verify basic dimensions of the Launch Complex 39 facilities which stacked, transported, and launched the Saturn V from direct personal experience. (I have been inside the VAB, near the Crawler, and on Pads 39A and 39B both.)

None of it made any difference, as AL will not pay any attention to such explanations. He'll just keep making variations on the same idiotic claims, as long as grown-ups pay him attention. Don't give it to him.
 
nomuse said:
Superman was a movie, not a physics book.

No -- no-one claims a fast object will make the universe speed up! You don't seem to understand the concept of "reference frame."
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We have a regular ATM Poster on BAUT who has (or had) the same problem.
 
aggle-rithm said:
It's a test. You see, the Council of Sarkovian Overlords created this planet centuries ago in order to determine whether Prince Sheshkatilla (whom we know as Anders) is worthy to take the throne of the Teskafillakula Star Empire. In due time, if the young Prince is able to see through the subterfuge created by his Overlord taskmasters, he will pass the test and take his rightful place as High Lord and Ruler of this entire cluster of galaxies.

Or he could just be a troll.
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That was more or less the plot of a 'Sarah Jane Adventure'
 
Mashuna said:
I used to think it was rare to meet someone quite so proudly ignorant, but relativity deniers seem to be all too common around here.
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Well there aren't that many of them, it's just that they're noisy, persistent and unable to accept that they're wrong.
 
Greedo said:
Very true.

Anders lives in a world were everything is a hoax or fake, even if it wouldn't be necessary to hoax it under any circumstance or would be easier not to hoax it.
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Actually anything that doesn't agrees with his views are a hoax or a myth and something that agrees with his views is supported without questioned.
 
sol invictus said:
As for Anders, I think he's just trolling.
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Not trolling. I'm just questioning if people here really know how to calculate relative velocities. Let's look at it again. According to Einstein's special relativity, what is the velocity between two photons traveling in opposite directions? The setting is a laboratory where the photons are sent in opposite directions at the same time, and the time it takes for each photon to travel the distance of 10 meters is measured. The observer is the scientist(s) doing the experiment.

I contacted a scientist (with a Ph.D. in physics) who told me that the calculated velocity between the two photons according to SR is 1c, one time the speed of light. What do you think it is?
 
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Anders Lindman said:
Not trolling. I'm just questioning if people here really know how to calculate relative velocities. Let's look at it again. According to Einstein's special relativity, what is the velocity between two photons traveling in opposite directions? The setting is a laboratory where the photons are sent in opposite directions at the same time, and the time it takes for each photon to travel the distance of 10 meters is measured. The observer is the scientist(s) doing the experiment.

I contacted a scientist (with a Ph.D. in physics) who told me that the calculated velocity between the two photons according to SR is 1c, one time the speed of light. What do you think it is?
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I've already answered that question several times for you, and in any case this discussion does not belong in this thread. Start a new thread if you want to discuss the basics of relativity.
 
sol invictus said:
I've already answered that question several times for you, and in any case this discussion does not belong in this thread. Start a new thread if you want to discuss the basics of relativity.
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Was it you who claimed the relative velocity is 2c?
 
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