Was 9/11 an inside job?

[Drudgewire]

Why is it that you completly ignored my wall of different posts, where I addressed many of your "points" on page one?

I'm going to go way out on a limb and say if he really wanted to hear any answers he'd have simply searched the forum for five minutes to see if there were logical rebuttals to his concerns, instead of doing what they all do... start a new thread and laugh while we jump through the same hoops we do every week with a "brand new" "just came to this conclusion recently-er."

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate a good throw toy as much as the next guy. Just making sure your question was meant to be rhetorical.

 

[beachnut]

... I would also like to recently point out that I came to the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job just recently. And now I go to work looking like this

..., you come to the wrong conclusion given 10 years and the answers. Good job!

Lucky you were not on flight 93, you would have stood down! Good job, 10 years and you pick the delusional side of 911. I love your youtube evidence. Brilliant.

 

[triforcharity]

I'm going to go way out on a limb and say if he really wanted to hear any answers he'd have simply searched the forum for five minutes to see if there were logical rebuttals to his concerns, instead of doing what they all do... start a new thread and laugh while we jump through the same hoops we do every week with a "brand new" "just came to this conclusion recently-er."

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate a good throw toy as much as the next guy. Just making sure your question was meant to be rhetorical.

Yeah, it pretty much was. I don't expect much from a new chew toy. Just kinda look dumb and make alot of noise.....

 

[Quad4_72]

Already asked that; no response yet.

I see. Well, maybe if we both post the same question twice he will answer at least one of us!

 

[cyclonic]

Just watch a close up video of the towers falling and you'll hear the 'booms' for yourself. You expect me to believe those are floors collapsing??

I already posted the firemen video in the op to and the collapse starts at around 3:43, explosions, not floors collapsing, can be heard. Clear audible unedited boooms.

What do you expect to hear when nearly an acre of concrete slams into another acre of concrete?

Listen to a real comparison between CDs and the WTC 1 & 2 collapses.




how can explosives twist the corner column at 4.20?

 

[MIKILLINI]

Relax has grown silent..just like those booms.

 

[Relax]

What do you expect to hear when nearly an acre of concrete slams into another acre of concrete?

I expect to hear a crashing sound, not explosions.

Listen to a real comparison between CDs and the WTC 1 & 2 collapses.

I have been. I've made certain the CD videos that I validated had nothing to do with the WTC collapse.

how can explosives twist the corner column at 4.20?

Bill O'Reilly vs Willie Nelson... seriously? Don't you know Willie Nelson > Bill O Reilly? Please, don't ever post a video with Bill O'Reilly in it. He's one of the biggest idiots on the face earth. As for the corner twisting, I think it's obvious that if there were explosives on that floor they already exploded during the impact. I stated earlier that I didn't think that explosives were planted where the planes would hit though they may have been planted below or above them. Certainly Below them, though maybe or maybe not above them.

 

[Relax]

Relax has grown silent..just like those booms.

Relax grows tired of people telling him there are no explosions when he can clearly hear explosions. I don't know what you consider to be an 'explosion' but I do know what I consider to be an explosion, and I do question all the other circumstantial evidence/coincidences. As should you.

 

[Triterope]

I'm sorry guys, but what you're saying just doesn't add up. In fact, I've only been asking MORE questions since I came here!

At least he admits he's JAQing off.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Relax grows tired of people telling him there are no explosions when he can clearly hear explosions.

In medical terms, when someone hears something that clearly isn't there it's classified as a form of hallucination, and such... examples include classifying the sound of a collapse incorrectly as a roar of explosions and insisting that the assertion is true despite evidence to the contrary

 

[beachnut]

... I'm an atheist, pro-death penalty, and firm supporter that 9/11 was an inside job. I like to think I think critically alot.

Takes no critical thinking to be an atheist, but you are religious by supporting the evidence free 911 truth lies. You are not an atheist, you are a member of the church of woo, the idiotic 911 is an inside job church of stupid claims based on stupid claims. Where is your Pulitzer? Too busy to take your no evidence claims and earn a Pulitzer? Watergate was broken in less than 2 years, how many years do you need? Infinite.

... is not an idiot, he's dead. Murdered.

Are you as paranoid as Cooper?

Cooper refused to stop or comply with orders from deputies, then fled back toward his house, drew a handgun, and began shooting.

Oops, Cooper was kind of nuts. Like 911 truth. good job finding a reliable tax dodging dolt. He was a JFK nut too? And UFO nut for a while? You are using a BS expert to support your zero evidence faith based inside job nonsense? Oops, Cooper even said there were explosives inside the building at OKC. Is there a nut case conspiracy Cooper did not like?

... Please I beg you, compare them to demolition controlled collapses and natural collapses. ...

The reason CD looks like 911 collapses, is E=mgh. The primary energy used to destroy buildings in a CD is from gravity, mass and height. Try using physics and you would not fall for the inside job delusion.

Go ahead do the math (can you?) Show us the energy used from explosives in a CD vs the energy from gravity, mass and height. Simple math and ideas based on the science of CD. You did study CD first? No, you fell for the inside job nonsense 10 years after the fact.

... I'm learning that a lot of people are idiots.

And that is the definition of 911 truth core leaders (some are in it for the money, fooling idiots into paying and believing nut case claims). 911 truth has the same evidence as you do, nothing.


Relax has no sounds of explosives. Good for you.

 

[Relax]

At least he admits he's JAQing off.

If this was an inside job, and if there were explosives used to level the twin towers, and there were people investigating for evidence of explosives sent by the government.... the same government that just destroyed those same towers with explosives... do you really think they'd report anything? Or do you think more than likely they'd be sent to destroy evidence? I didn't even know the government conducted 'investigations' for explosives at ground zero. Certainly... you don't think there would be a need for one given how they're supposed to have collapsed due to the planes hitting them. And if that was plausible enough to bring them down. Why in the hell were they worried about evidence for the use of explosives?

'hint'

 

[beachnut]

If this was an inside job, and if there were explosives used to level the twin towers, and there were people investigating for evidence of explosives sent by the government.... the same government that just destroyed those same towers with explosives... do you really think they'd report anything? Or do you think more than likely they'd be sent to destroy evidence? I didn't even know the government conducted 'investigations' for explosives at ground zero. Certainly... you don't think there would be a need for one given how they're supposed to have collapsed due to the planes hitting them. And if that was plausible enough to bring them down. Why in the hell were they worried about evidence for the use of explosives?

'hint'

Watergate. darn, you lost this argument without much research required.

People love to turn in people who are liars and frauds. You believe liars and frauds, we turn them in by exposing them, and you still believe them. You are one critical thinker. Good job

hint - simile

 

[Quad4_72]

Relax grows tired of people telling him there are no explosions when he can clearly hear explosions. I don't know what you consider to be an 'explosion' but I do know what I consider to be an explosion, and I do question all the other circumstantial evidence/coincidences. As should you.

Ok relax, I gotta ask the question now. How old are you and what experience do you have with regards to anything 9/11 related? Have you ever heard an explosive detonated in real life?

 

[MIKILLINI]

Relax grows tired of people telling him there are no explosions when he can clearly hear explosions. I don't know what you consider to be an 'explosion' but I do know what I consider to be an explosion, and I do question all the other circumstantial evidence/coincidences. As should you.

All you're doing is asking the same old questions I and many others have asked before.
I have argued(In 2007)on the side you're arguing from now: After taking coincidences and forcing them into sequences deemed to be logical and significant, it became more apparent that I was attempting to prove something without actual consideration of what i was attempting to "prove".
Read the link I posted on #118

ETA: If you didn't want to go back to #118, here it is again:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/09/02/the-911-conspiracists-vindicated-after-all-these-years/

 

[The Platypus]

If this was an inside job, and if there were explosives used to level the twin towers, and there were people investigating for evidence of explosives sent by the government.... the same government that just destroyed those same towers with explosives... do you really think they'd report anything? Or do you think more than likely they'd be sent to destroy evidence? I didn't even know the government conducted 'investigations' for explosives at ground zero. Certainly... you don't think there would be a need for one given how they're supposed to have collapsed due to the planes hitting them. And if that was plausible enough to bring them down. Why in the hell were they worried about evidence for the use of explosives?

'hint'

Wow, dude...

It's scary what a few conspiracy websites and youtube videos will do to some kids.

 

[cyclonic]

Too bad 76 yrs old anthony "oranges" lawson,currently living in thailand, is a twoofer because when he works with facts and reality he can produce a very good video such as "september clues busted"



here is his channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/alawson911#p/u/49/B6jS2Ah22us

 

[sylvan8798]

OP, I am very curious as to what you have been doing the past 10 years that you are only NOW coming to this issue? Not that anyone should have been spending time on these matters, but some of us have known about the "truth movement" since before there actually was one to speak of. We have followed from the time the earliest websites with "inside job" claims appeared, some time in 2001.

As I take an interest in the psychological manifestations of belief in conspiracy theories, I am also interested in what led you to look into the matter now, and how you were convinced in 4 days time.

How does this new belief set make you feel?

Do you see it manifesting itself in your life in terms of some kind of action?

Does it fit in with your previous beliefs regarding the government, etc, or is this a divergence from your previous thinking?

Did you previously believe OTHER common CT's such as relating to JFK assassination or moon landings?

Are you aware that there are a number of 9/11 claims which are contradictory and some which are extremely extreme? If you pursue an interest in the subject, and remain a "truther", at some point you will have to determine where you draw the line on the spectrum of the belief set.

 

[Quad4_72]

I like the results of the poll in this forum. 87 who base their views in reality, and only 4 who are complete lunatics stuck in a world dominated by paranoia.

 

[NoahFence]

I expect to hear a crashing sound, not explosions.

That's exactly what you do hear. Crashing sounds. No explosions.