Merged Apollo "hoax" discussion / Lick observatory laser saga

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Ranb, all agree, not a point in dispute, that Lick Observatory was given the coordinates of Tranquility Base on the evening of 07/20/1969. Questions for you. When were the coordinates given to Lick? Who gave them to the Lick staff? What were those coordinates? Answer those questions for yourself and for me, quite simple, you can use a computer, and you will see the truth in what I say. go for it Ranb. I eagerly await your findings.
 
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My question posed to Ranb is for all others engaged here in opposition to my views. Let's see your answers and the facts will judge quite simply who is correct.
 
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The facts YOU DISCOVER and report back here, will show Apollo to be fraudulent. Do not be afraid , what are you waiting for , please proceed!
 
Patrick1000 said:
The facts YOU DISCOVER and report back here, will show Apollo to be fraudulent. Do not be afraid , what are you waiting for , please proceed!
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i have discovered the fact that US Astronots were indeed on the moon.
a small step for Armstrong a huge fail for you.
 
Patrick1000 said:
The facts YOU DISCOVER and report back here, will show Apollo to be fraudulent. Do not be afraid , what are you waiting for , please proceed!
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bullpizzle.

Really? Why do you constantly ignore the facts I present that DON'T show the Apollo program to be fraudulent? Are you afraid?

Baysinger. Corner reflector aimed at the moon.

Or this one: http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/apollo.html
A collection of photos taken by astronomers of various spacecraft NOT ON EARTH.

Facts, all of them.
 
ApolloG,

Reed is the key figure ApolloG because HE and ONLY HE was responsible in determining the coordinates and it WAS HIS COORDINATES THAT WERE USED on the morning of 07/20/1969. So you may appeal to the accounts of others, but Reed's numbers were the one's used. His assessment was the one viewed by NASA as authoritative.
 
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come on DC and ApolloG, why not give my little challenge a try? The point is not one in dispute, the point that Lick Observatory was given the coordinates of Tranquility Base on the evening of 07/20/1969. Surely you are not afraid to find out who gave them to whom, when it was done and what the numbers were. A harmless exercise. MAYBE.
 
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I'd love to see nomuse and sts take a shot at my challenge. They are such confident and FAST researchers. Here is your opportunity to really embarrass PAtrick. the lynchpin of his argument can be pulled in a moment. Surely boys you are not afraid!!!???
 
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come on DC and ApolloG, why not give my little challenge a try? /QUOTE]

Because it's stupid and irrelevant, proving nothing and disproving nothing.

Rocks: Factual.

Transmissions: Factual.

Reflectors on the moon: Factual.

Super-secret parallel space program that secretly launched secret missions to secretly plant the reflectors (and the rest of the EASEP or ALSEP Package): speculative nonsense
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He was assisted by SELECT, the officer responsible for determining the best tracking source for the space ships. He was also assisted by DYNAMICS, the officer responsible for operating the computer I/O as they collected data and performed calculations with a successful lunar orbital rendezvous as their primary goal.
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LOL! Where did Select get his data? From the MSFN. Where did MSFN get it? From the DSN. Where did the DSN get it? From the LM. Where did the LM get it? From the guidance and navigation system onboard the LM. Do some more "narrative" research, this time read up about the MSFN and telemetry. The LM and CSM constantly transmitted it's position, velocity, and attitude data, amongst lots of other data, which was distributed by the MSFN to many, many stations around the world.

From one of my early posts, we see Reed calculated either 00 38 10 N and 23 30 00 E or 00 40 35 N and 23 25 43 E, the choice between the two dependent on whether or not one adds 2' 25" north and subtracts 4' 17" from the east coordinate as the foot note says one should definitely do when making the calculation using data from the trajectory accelerometer.
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You are caught in another lie! And not just another lie, the exact same lie that I caught you on before!

The rest of your "we now know" nonsense deleted because it's the same lame argument just repeated over and over again.
 
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ApolloG,

Reed is the key figure ApolloG because HE and ONLY HE was responsible in determining the coordinates
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A lie.

and it WAS HIS COORDINATES THAT WERE USED on the morning of 07/20/1969. So you may appeal to the accounts of others, but Reed's numbers were the one's used.
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Another lie.

His assessment was the one viewed by NASA as authoritative.
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Another lie.
 
I think you are sooooo scared

Fine Matt, but ya' know what I think? I think you are chicken, CHICKEN BIG TIME.

I say that because this is such an easy topic to research and so much is at stake. you could blow me out of the water in an instant. Everything I am claiming here you could show to be a huge crock with minimal energy input, almost nothing really. And instead, you are going too spin your wheels and hide. Fine, but I think you are a coward.
 
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Patrick1000 said:
Fine Matt, but ya' know what I think? I think you are chicken, CHICKEN BIG TIME.

I say that because this is such an easy topic to research and so much is at stake. you could blow me out of the water in an instant.
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You seemed to miss the simple fact that I already did that.
 
Sez,

Launch was before 07/16/1969. Vehicle i imagine would be surveyor like as they had experience with that, though that need not be the case. Tool would be the very staff or something like it that the Apollo Lunar scientists had designed and were prepared to later deploy. Best I can do for now. Great question Sez. Thanks!
 
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Patrick1000 said:
come on DC and ApolloG, why not give my little challenge a try? The point is not one in dispute, the point that Lick Observatory was given the coordinates of Tranquility Base on the evening of 07/20/1969. Surely you are not afraid to find out who gave them to whom, when it was done and what the numbers were. A harmless exercise. MAYBE.
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no way, your nonsense is boring as hell, make a fancy YT video about it and maybe i take a look at it as it might be a bit entertaining.
 
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Sez,

Launch was before 07/16/1969. Vehicle i imagine would be surveyor like as they had experience with that, though that need not be the case. Tool would be the very staff or something like it that the Apollo Lunar scientists had designed and were prepared to later deploy. Best I can do for now. Great question Sez. Thanks!
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Yes, great question and one that was on my mind too.
So, it was secret rocket launch? :jaw-dropp
And where might that have taken place?
 
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