I will address you, because I believe you are intelligent, and perhaps open minded. Above all you have been more respectful then 90% of the posters here. So I appreciate that. Look at these previous posts, simply just trying paint an impossible picture, none of it's worth addressing. Whoever wishes can read through the posts and see what I said about who could be or not be involved. I will answer jayheedness on his one question, because I believe it to be a decent question, and will respond when ready.
Anyway getting to your point. I never said any such thing about you. Only you know what your real views are. My point about, against the mainstream...is that it is difficult for someone (anyone) to do so. I had a very hard time with it. There has been a very concerted effort to create an atmosphere that everyone believes the official story in 9/11. To question it in unpatriotic, disrespectful to the victims families. I believe it is the exact opposite of this. It is the truest sense of patriotism, our founding fathers made it quite clear they wanted the citizens to rise up against tyrannical governments/leaders. I believe we have a duty to find out exactly what happened that day. In terms of disrespecting the victims, again I believe it to be the exact opposite. If what happened on that was not as presented, again we have a duty to find out who did it. What family member would be angry about wanting to make sure we know everything that happened that day? Even if the official story turned out to be true.
There has also been an effort to paint all conspiracy theorists as "loons" You know tin foil hat wearing cult fanatics. They haven't gotten anything published in a respectable journal. How they can possibly be right? There has been a very concentrated effort with this.
They have an agenda of painting this very large and impossible conspiracy. A clear example...is saying the FBI has been implicated. When even if one thinks some at the FBI had something to do with it (I personally believe the FBI had next to nothing to do with it) they make it sound like you are saying the whole FBI was in on it.
Lastly and perhaps most importantly, it is very hard for an individual to make that mental leap. They don't want to think about if the official story is not true, what does that mean? It is a very scary thought. It is more comforting to believe the official story of 9/11.
Look through this thread, and other threads you will see examples of all this. This is what I mean about pressure to go against mainstream.
But see? Here is where you go off the tracks. First off, you make no effort to qualify that statement. How many FBI agents would it take? At what level? And no other agents, at other levels, asked any questions?
This is the hand waving we speak of. It shows, and please excuse the word, complete ignorance of 9/11 as a whole. No one would argue that in one individual case, a cover up couldn't occur. It is the TOTALITY of evidence surrounding 9/11 and vast numbers of people involved that makes a 9/11 cover up an impossibility.
Looking at this one claim about the FBI: there were, if I remember correctly, several hundred agents assigned to the investigation. That's several hundred people who investigated 9/11 and concluded it was carried out by al Qaeda. That's several hundred people who have to be "in on it". You did not quantify your "FBI had next to nothing to do with it" number, but this alone renders that comment grossly inaccurate.
And that is only one agency! There were literally
dozens of agencies involved in the investigation: CIA, NTSB, NSA, NIST, FEMA, ASCE, NYPD, FDNY, NYPA, state agencies, municipal agencies. And dozens more, totaling, off the top of my head, thousands of investigators!
There were over 10,000 workers on site at GZ. Many experienced demo workers, none of whom witnessed any signs of controlled demolition: either amongst the debris or on the steel itself.
There were 1500 workers on site at Shanksville, who dug up FL 93. Wally Miller himself identified a dozen victims and gathered body parts for DNA analysis.
Several hundred workers were on site at the Pentagon. Again, all victims were identified. Physical evidence was gathered. Qualified engineers examined the damage to the Pentagon. Eyewitnesses are on record relating what they saw. FDR data shows FL 77 hit the building.
A conservative estimate brings the total of people directly involved in the gathering of evidence, and investigation of the crime, to 15,000 people!
15,000!
For anything you say to be true, anything! You HAVE to believe those 15,000 people have kept quiet for 10 years! Thousands of workers at GZ who were abandoned by their govt when they answered their govts call. Thousands who are now dying or who have already died. No reason for them to keep quiet any longer. And nothing out of them!
So again, I do not use the word to merely insult, or for shock value. To in any way limit the amount of people involved in this; to suggest it only takes a few to cover this up, stems from nothing short of ignorance of the subject.
