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Why not war against Islam?

DC said:
the more i read the wicked book, the more i assume that those that claim there is only one real Islam, have never touched the book, and didnt even read the cover i guess. they only know the violent quotes.
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Didn't you say "That's what Christianity is really about" when that Norwegian psychopath gunned down a bunch of kids?
 
Ethnikos said:
Another thing to keep in mind is the Christians killed.
When you say Christian it might be helpful to differentiate the one violent group which is the Roman Church....
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A good portion of Germany during WW2 were Lutheran.
 
Dayan81 said:
A good portion of Germany during WW2 were Lutheran.
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Just a branch of Roman Catholicism.
They knew no other religion.
Luther practically created Germany by uniting the German princes to oppose Rome.
They created a nationalistic religion as an improved catholic one.
 
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ANTPogo said:
Everything I said in my post that you quoted is just as true of Christianity as it is of Islam.

You know, for someone who ostensibly has no problem with "Christianity-bashing", you sure do whine about it a lot. Where were you in that thread where Catholics were called by the slur "Mary-worshippers"? Because I was left by myself trying to defend against and correct that complete misperception, with no assistance from the crowd that's so upset by all the "Christianity-bashing" and "Islam-defending" that's going on around here.

Funny, that.
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The only thing "funny" is your post, wherein you falsely claim I've "whined" about Christianity bashing. And who Catholics worship is the least of my worries. I'm really not into knowing every little detail of every heathen religion on the monkeyball. In fact, I find it hard to imagine anything closer to hell than having to laboriously study all that tedious noise.
 
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FireGarden said:
I'm so glad I was sitting down when I read that surprising comment.
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So. Do you suppose my knowing every tedious little detail about every heathen religion on the monkeyball is likely to change my mind about any of them?

Trust me. The tedious little details don't even enter into my equations. There are a plethora of tedious little details that we simply do not need to know.
 
Toontown said:
So. Do you suppose my knowing every tedious little detail about every heathen religion on the monkeyball is likely to change my mind about any of them?

Trust me. The tedious little details don't even enter into my equations. There are a plethora of tedious little details that we simply do not need to know.
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So, you enjoy coming into threads about topics you know nothing about and want to know nothing about just to toss about random and laughably inaccurate insults at the people who happen to know a hell of a lot more than you about pretty much everything relating to the subject as it applies to both Islam and Christianity alike?

Well, everyone needs a hobby, I suppose.
 
antpogo said:
so, you enjoy coming into threads about topics you know nothing about and want to know nothing about just to toss about random and laughably inaccurate insults at the people who happen to know a hell of a lot more than you about pretty much everything relating to the subject as it applies to both islam and christianity alike?

Well, everyone needs a hobby, i suppose.
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bingo!:D
 
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We are at war with Islam if we believe it or not. The war is from the following:

  • Critical Thinking
  • Logic
  • Reason
  • Understanding Logical Fallacies
  • Sagan's Balooney Detection Kit
  • Occam's Razor
  • Science
  • Human Rights
  • Homosexual Rights
  • Woman's RIghts
Critical Thinking and Islam cannot coexist. Critical Thinking wins.
Logic and Islam cannot coexist. Logic wins.
Reason and Islam cannot coexist. Reason wins.
Islam cannot defend itself without using Logical fallacies. Once you understand logical fallacies, you can no longer accept Islam.

One cannot believe in the rights of women and the rights of gays and also believe in the right for Islam to exist.

People confuse Islam with being pro-muslim. Muslims are the victims of Islam. They need to be freed.
 
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Bill Thompson said:
We are at war with Islam if we believe it or not. The war is from the following:

  • Critical Thinking
  • Logic
  • Reason
  • Understanding Logical Fallacies
  • Sagan's Balooney Detection Kit
  • Occam's Razor
  • Science
  • Human Rights
  • Homosexual Rights
  • Woman's RIghts
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then we are at war with all Abrahamic religions and propably all others too.
 
Bill Thompson said:
We are at war with Islam if we believe it or not. The war is from the following:

  • Critical Thinking
  • Logic
  • Reason
  • Understanding Logical Fallacies
  • Sagan's Balooney Detection Kit
  • Occam's Razor
  • Science
  • Human Rights
  • Homosexual Rights
  • Woman's RIghts
Critical Thinking and Islam cannot coexist. Critical Thinking wins.
Logic and Islam cannot coexist. Logic wins.
Reason and Islam cannot coexist. Reason wins.
Islam cannot defend itself without using Logical fallacies. Once you understand logical fallacies, you can no longer accept Islam.

One cannot believe in the rights of women and the rights of gays and also believe in the right for Islam to exist.

People confuse Islam with being pro-muslim. Muslims are the victims of Islam. They need to be freed.
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the same list applies perfectly to the new american christian fundamentalism.
it describes most of the tea party whackos.
 
DC said:
then we are at war with all Abrahamic religions and propably all others too.
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That is a typical Atheistic cop-out comment. THe problem is so big, so you do not want to do anything. But this does not make sense because, with this attitude you turn a blind eye to the physical and on-going human rights abuses worldwide.

I am not defending any religious belief but Islam is different if you look closely. Islam demands that its teachings be interpreted literally. This means that husbands have the right to beat their wives.

Oh, you can find Muslim apologists try to explain this away by saying that certain rules must be followed but nothing escapes the fact this law is interpreted literally (Christian biblical rules and Jewish rules about things like stoning disobedient kids are no longer taken literally and followed) and it is carried out everyday.

I have been down this road before. Christianity -- mainstream Christianity from major denominations -- is not taken literally anymore. An eye for an eye is not practiced anymore. It literally is in Muslim countries.

I am not defending Christianity. I am not a religious person. If the Baptists preached and convinced suicide bombers and used charity money to fund the Taliban and terrorist groups, i would be against them too.
 
bikerdruid said:
the same list applies perfectly to the new american christian fundamentalism.
it describes most of the tea party whackos.
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Once again, what the hell is your point?

A good friend of mine lost her niece, the youngest victim of 9-11. Are you saying that the tea party members go around killing babies? Are new American Christian fundamentalists treating to kill you personally for no logical reason?

Do you support free speech and freedom of expression? Do you support how Muslims expressed themselves towards Theo Van Gogh?

Are these other religious groups threatening to kill you just because you exercise your free speech?

Your world view is not the real world. You would rather be blind than miserable. I would perfer not to be blind.
 
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Bill Thompson said:
That is a typical Atheistic cop-out comment. THe problem is so big, so you do not want to do anything. But this does not make sense because, with this attitude you turn a blind eye to the physical and on-going human rights abuses worldwide.

I am not defending any religious belief but Islam is different if you look closely. Islam demands that its teachings be interpreted literally. This means that husbands have the right to beat their wives.

Oh, you can find Muslim apologists try to explain this away by saying that certain rules must be followed but nothing escapes the fact this law is interpreted literally (Christian biblical rules and Jewish rules about things like stoning disobedient kids are no longer taken literally and followed) and it is carried out everyday.

I have been down this road before. Christianity -- mainstream Christianity from major denominations -- is not taken literally anymore. An eye for an eye is not practiced anymore. It literally is in Muslim countries.

I am not defending Christianity. I am not a religious person. If the Baptists preached and convinced suicide bombers and used charity money to fund the Taliban and terrorist groups, i would be against them too.
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amazing how you know exactly how Islam has to be interpreted, and amazingly it seems you agree with the extremists and only their view is the real view.
it all starts over again, we are back at page one of this thread, and you have learned absolutely nothing at all. you keep your paranoid views upright and just repeat the false claims.

and still, by your definition we are at war with all religions.
 
Bill Thompson said:
I am not defending any religious belief but Islam is different if you look closely. Islam demands that its teachings be interpreted literally. This means that husbands have the right to beat their wives.
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Judaism and Christianity demand the same thing. Jesus, in fact, had some pretty explicit things to say about those who not only don't follow those laws, but who teach that it's okay to ignore those laws.

Oh, you can find Muslim apologists try to explain this away by saying that certain rules must be followed but nothing escapes the fact this law is interpreted literally (Christian biblical rules and Jewish rules about things like stoning disobedient kids are no longer taken literally and followed) and it is carried out everyday.
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There are a number of Christians like Reconstructionists and Dominionists who are working very hard behind the political scenes in America to restore things like stoning disobedient kids to our great country. A local paper here in Alabama even interviewed one once (Gary North...you may have heard of him).

But aside from that, why do you think that a large number of Christians and Jews seem happy ignoring what their own religions demand that they do?

I have been down this road before. Christianity -- mainstream Christianity from major denominations -- is not taken literally anymore. An eye for an eye is not practiced anymore. It literally is in Muslim countries.
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You're wrong on both counts (insofar as you're using "Muslim countries" as an unrestricted descriptor).

I am not defending Christianity. I am not a religious person. If the Baptists preached and convinced suicide bombers and used charity money to fund the Taliban and terrorist groups, i would be against them too.
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Is the TLA in Uganda and the IRA in Ireland enough for you, or do Christians actually have to support Muslim terrorists in order to earn your ire?
 
Bill Thompson said:
A good friend of mine lost her neice, the youngest victim of 9-11. Are you saying that the tea party members go around killing babies? Are new american christian fundamentalists threating to kill you personally for no logical reason?

Do you support free speach and freedom of expression? Do you support how muslims expressed themselves towards Theo Van Gogh?
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Three guesses what the son of this grieving mother died defending.

Three more guesses why the son of this grieving mother wanted to join the military as soon as he was old enough, after watching the 9/11 attacks on TV as a 14-year-old kid.
 
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