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Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

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DeathDart said:
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On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower."
And the perps apparently rappelled in from helicopters...


The building was still getting some power. The elevators were probably still working. Somebody could have used 100 radioactive spiders on some illegal immigrants and they crawled up the outside.

Wait, was there a big bright light surrounded by some electrified fence on top of the building? Scratch the illegal spider dudes.
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Dudes lol. No school tomorrow?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Yes. It also has knowledge of over 70 Pentagon videos and 4 black boxes from the WTC tower crashes.
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ApolloGnomon said:
Citations, please.
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Clayton Moore said:
Public knowledge.
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I'm public and I don't have this knowledge. Where do I go to get it? Is it in the bottom of a box of Cracker Jacks? Can I find it on youtube? Should I go to college again?

Citations, please means citations. Your dodge suggests you have no idea where you gained this "information." Prove your assertion.
 
DeathDart said:
Give us a shout when you start the revolution.

That will be an interesting challenge. How to defeat the NSA's internal monitoring, and yes, I know they are not supposed to be doing that.

I wonder if it can be co-opted to transmit? V had so many creative Ideas.
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Where does one even begin with this??

Bah. neverminds.
 
DeathDart said:
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On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower." [WingTV]

This sounds more like part time Israeli intelligence operatives doing some industrial espionage on the side. As far as a controlled demolition too many things could go wrong. You would need smart initiators, something like the launch code locks on missiles, so current pulses or nearby computers wouldn't trigger an explosion. An occupied building, is a minefield when setting explosives

That is a lot of specialized hardware and a lot of cables.

The worse thing that could happen is that one of the buildings wasn't hit by a plane at all. It is still wired for explosives, which will be certainly found.

Too much risk, not enough gain.
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It could be that the biowarfare exercise 'Tripod 2' that took position at the Twin Towers the evening before 9/11 was there to cover for that very eventuality.

If the plane had missed the Tower and piled into the ground the biowarfare people could have moved in and found that Anthrax or another biological agent had been released in the building.Full quarantine and evacuation of the immediate area would have protected any secrets that the building might have.
 
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bill smith said:
It could be that the biowarfare exercise 'Tripod 2' that took position at the Twin Towers the evening before 9/11 was there to cover for that very eventuality.

If the plane had missed the Tower and piled into the ground the biowarfare people could have moved in and found that Anthrax or another biological agent had been released in the building.Full quarantine and evacuation of the immediate area would have protected any secrets that the building might have.
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Still too many people.
Bad Idea because this would cause a breakdown in compartmentalization, the people in such an bio-warfare exercise would have had direct access to physical evidence, leading away from the Arabs..

If you are wanting to blame it on Arabs, you do not make any extra work creating physical evidence to counter that perception.

The only thing that you might do, is sneak a gun on board one of the planes, like flight 11.

This could also mean that the conspiracy had no more than one of their own suicide commandos on the plane. The plan the Arabs were using was a good one. Why would the conspiracy send in someone for insurance, what were they worried about, that might not happen?

Did they worry that Atta was not a good enough pilot?

How many guns were known to be in the buildings?

How many were recovered?
 
DeathDart said:
Still too many people.
Bad Idea because this would cause a breakdown in compartmentalization, the people in such an bio-warfare exercise would have had direct access to physical evidence, leading away from the Arabs..

If you are wanting to blame it on Arabs, you do not make any extra work creating physical evidence to counter that perception.

The only thing that you might do, is sneak a gun on board one of the planes, like flight 11.

This could also mean that the conspiracy had no more than one of their own suicide commandos on the plane. The plan the Arabs were using was a good one. Why would the conspiracy send in someone for insurance, what were they worried about, that might not happen?

Did they worry that Atta was not a good enough pilot?

How many guns were known to be in the buildings?

How many were recovered?
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The only guns that I know of in the buildings ended up encased in formerly molten concrete. There are photos on the net.

Still, I don't know how else they would have covered the plane missing the building. The team could have been mostly FBI. After all it wouldn't be a real Anthrax attack. A few bio-hazard suits and who would know the difference.?
 
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bill smith said:
The only guns that I know of in the buildings ended up encased in formerly molten concrete. There are photos on the net.

Still, I don't know how else they would have covered the plane missing the building. The team could have been mostly FBI. After it wouldn't be a real Anthrax attack. A few bio-hazard suits and who would know the difference.?
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You've taken a serious departure from observed reality, here. You know that, right?
 
DeathDart said:
Wackenhut and Pinkerton Thugs cannot deal with RPG's.

Only main battle tanks and a few lighter vehicles can resist RPG's.

The corrupting segments of our society have shown long term planning getting to this point. We need to start our own long term planning in case the rule of law, which is staggering around like a drunk right now, were to fail.

When the legal system is no longer attempting to keep up the appearances of social justice, that is the time to act.

Vote while you still can, it is much easier to vote, than to start killing people.
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If that's not trolling,what is it?
 
Clayton Moore said:
How do you people get away with all the personal attacks without being at least suspended?
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At the time the post was made, he was not a member here. Therefore, not protected by the MA. I can call that idiot swyoe any number of names, and the mods might just laugh, if that.

Cheers.
 
ApolloGnomon said:
You've taken a serious departure from observed reality, here. You know that, right?
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Originally I thought that you could turnover a few stones, (that Bush was intentionally not looking under) and the conspiracy and the actors would be revealed.

The 19 were helped by direct actions of people in the U. S. Government.

These direct actions have been called mistakes and/or coincidences.

Originally I thought that any influence used to intentionally degrade U. S. Intelligence and Defense would be overt and easy to spot. But a lot of the people it seems to be leading to, are not in that many of the “Truther” databases. Some of them are just names, no clues about what they are, or where they came from.

CIA personnel have cover stories, they actually have some truth in them, or the cover story wouldn't work.

Other members of the conspiracy, (some completely unrelated to 9-11) have peculiar indicators. Their Wikipedia entries have either information minimized or completely missing.

Too many of the people involved, if they were questioned at all, got a slow softball across the plate. Some have literally disappeared into the machine. Some parts of the government are so secret that it is very difficult or nearly impossible for someone like the FBI to get any picture of what is happening on the inside.

These direct actions have been called mistakes and/or coincidences are key to unraveling the conspiracy, if it exists.

Often the Bush Administration would pull out all of their dirty tricks and foot dragging, when they were going after whistle-blowers. Those people created a lot of public trails that could be followed, usually backtracking to some right wing think tank in the present time.

If anyone knew about 9-11 in the U.S. Government, they don't seem to have learned it from the U.S. Government. And Israel is not as much of an obvious choice as I originally thought it to be. They would have not been this clumsy, unless their tradecraft is in serious decline.

Obvious, provides emotional certainty, if a conspiracy exists, then understanding it/(or not it) is a challenge.

This is not multiple choice, this is a thesis.
 
DeathDart said:
Originally I thought that you could turnover a few stones, (that Bush was intentionally not looking under) and the conspiracy and the actors would be revealed.

The 19 were helped by direct actions of people in the U. S. Government.

These direct actions have been called mistakes and/or coincidences.

Originally I thought that any influence used to intentionally degrade U. S. Intelligence and Defense would be overt and easy to spot. But a lot of the people it seems to be leading to, are not in that many of the “Truther” databases. Some of them are just names, no clues about what they are, or where they came from.

CIA personnel have cover stories, they actually have some truth in them, or the cover story wouldn't work.

Other members of the conspiracy, (some completely unrelated to 9-11) have peculiar indicators. Their Wikipedia entries have either information minimized or completely missing.

Too many of the people involved, if they were questioned at all, got a slow softball across the plate. Some have literally disappeared into the machine. Some parts of the government are so secret that it is very difficult or nearly impossible for someone like the FBI to get any picture of what is happening on the inside.

These direct actions have been called mistakes and/or coincidences are key to unraveling the conspiracy, if it exists.

Often the Bush Administration would pull out all of their dirty tricks and foot dragging, when they were going after whistle-blowers. Those people created a lot of public trails that could be followed, usually backtracking to some right wing think tank in the present time.

If anyone knew about 9-11 in the U.S. Government, they don't seem to have learned it from the U.S. Government. And Israel is not as much of an obvious choice as I originally thought it to be. They would have not been this clumsy, unless their tradecraft is in serious decline.

Obvious, provides emotional certainty, if a conspiracy exists, then understanding it/(or not it) is a challenge.

This is not multiple choice, this is a thesis.
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I note the Laconic if. It is not a thesis. Look up the word thesis in a dictionary.
 
DeathDart said:
Wackenhut and Pinkerton Thugs cannot deal with RPG's.

Only main battle tanks and a few lighter vehicles can resist RPG's.

The corrupting segments of our society have shown long term planning getting to this point. We need to start our own long term planning in case the rule of law, which is staggering around like a drunk right now, were to fail.

When the legal system is no longer attempting to keep up the appearances of social justice, that is the time to act.

Vote while you still can, it is much easier to vote, than to start killing people.
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Hoo boy.

Last guy that stated such to me also told me that paintball was a great tool for training for that coming day of reckoning for the elites...
 
dafydd said:
I note the Laconic if. It is not a thesis. Look up the word thesis in a dictionary.
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Laconic was more interesting.

A thesis could defend the view that there is a conspiracy or could attempt to defend a negative, and say there isn't any possibility of a conspiracy.

One point, there is a conspiracy, and no it probably doesn't have a secret handshake. The corruption around us the the proof of that.

It could be that separate arteries of corruption, share common tumors.

It is also true some of the individuals in the economic and political conspiracy took advantage of the situation created by 9-11.

This forums reason to exist is to argue whether someone in the U. S. Government made it happen (9-11) (or something rambling like that) or let it happen.
 
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