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An analysis by Jim Hoffman argues that pyroclastic flows such as the WTC dust cloud must expand primarily by thermal heating. He reduced the calculated expansion volume by 33%, to account for turbulent mixing with surrounding air. Hoffman shows that even after this correction, the pyroclastic flow from the North Tower collapse expanded to approximately three times the original volume of the tower. According to Hoffman, this expansion is due to either heating of the air mass within the towers, or boiling of the water contents of the concrete. However, http://www.controlled-demolition.com/images/client/kingdome.mpg shows that the Kingdome demolition also generated a vast dust cloud, although only ordinary demolition charges were used. I've undertaken a preliminary and inconclusive photogrammetric analysis of the Kingdome demolition at: http://www.911-strike.com/kingdome.htm
 
Military Officer and Former CIA: 9-11 Commission Was a Cover-up

Speaking on FOX News’ Judge Napolitano’s Freedom Watch show, Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer who recently got censored by the Pentagon for writing about Operation Able Danger in his new book Operation Dark Heart, and former CIA Michael Scheuer both confirmed that the 9-11 Commission was a cover-up.


http://world911truth.org/military-officer-and-former-cia-911-commission-was-a-cover-up/
 
I expect a lot of posts will be moved to Abandon All Hope section,
 
seewithyourowneyes said:
what's bad "john" tell me? are some of you afraid of the facts? come on...110 stories turns to flour.....all the concrete turned into flour like powder...from falling onto itself....yeah ok!!! ya ever hear of....
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This didnot happen in this time/space continuum.

When Bush the lesser addressed the fire fighters at GZ, he did it standing on a pile of concrete chunks.
 
seewithyourowneyes said:
what's bad "john" tell me? are some of you afraid of the facts? come on...110 stories turns to flour.....all the concrete turned into flour like powder...from falling onto itself....yeah ok!!! ya ever hear of....

http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/09/pyroclastic-flows-911s-smoking-gun_13.html
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Sorry, are you talking to me? It's so hard to tell when you haven't wrapped your genius noggin around how to use the Quote feature yet.

What's this about buildings turning to flour? Sure parts of the buildings were reduced to powder, like the drywall, for instance, but what's so surprising about that? A seven year old child can reduce a sheet of drywall to powder with a hammer. If you ever actually looked at photos of the debris you'd see the ruins of skyscrapers crushed under their own weight, not a giant pyramid of white dust. The "dustified" buildings really is one of the most bemusingly odd ideas that the Truth Movement has ever come up with (and that's saying something). We're talking full blown Oliver Sacks "Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat" territory here.

Can you tell me about the Flight 93 debris field again? I think you should concentrate on that instead of flailing all over the place with all the other stuff. I'll bet you'll change a lot of minds with that story. Oh go on, you know you want to. Metal debris eight miles away from the crash site? That sounds absolutely fascinating!
 
seewithyourowneyes said:
An analysis by Jim Hoffman argues that pyroclastic flows such as the WTC dust cloud must expand primarily by thermal heating.
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The jerk exposes himself to be unqualified to address the issue because he has not learned some of the basics of fluid dynamics, such as the difference between a pyroclastic flow and a turbidity flow. He's just anotehr nattering drongo with nothing to offer.

He reduced the calculated expansion volume by 33%, to account for turbulent mixing with surrounding air. Hoffman shows that even after this correction, the pyroclastic flow from the North Tower collapse expanded to approximately three times the original volume of the tower.
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Which has nothing to do with high explosives. If you just drop and break a concrete slab, it releases heat. Ask anyone who ever tore out aconcrete patio with a jackhammer (like me.)

Everyt building that collapses, whether due to demolition or structural failure, produces a dust cloud. There was more stuff in the towers to produce dust, like all that drywall that would have been removed from any other structure scheduled for demolition.

So prove that that self-important poppinjay knows how much dust there should have been compared to how much there was.
 
seewithyourowneyes said:
Many respected senior members of the military, intelligence services, and government have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report. Some even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of 9/11. Below are the highly revealing public statements on this vital topic of over 50 prominent public servants with links for verification and further investigation.

The collective voices of these respected senior officials along with over 100 esteemed professors, over 200 pilots and aviation professionals, and hundreds of architects and engineers give credibility to the claim that the 9/11 Commission Report is tragically flawed. These dedicated individuals from across the political spectrum are not irresponsible believers in some 9/11 conspiracy theory. Their sincere concern, backed by decades of service to their country, demonstrate that criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report is not only reasonable and responsible, it is in fact a patriotic duty.



http://www.wanttoknow.info/officialsquestion911commissionreport
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Wow. Do you want to know how I know you didn't write this?

It's all spelled correctly, and readable.

Please, stop spamming the forum.
 
seewithyourowneyes said:
On 27 Nov 2002, 411 days after the .......
411 days just like I said....next stupid person want an answer?
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You might want to have a look at the Membership Agreement. This post is clearly against the rules there swyoe.

Secondly, the investigation officially started at about.....oh, about 8:47 am on 9/11/01

The 9/11 Commission was a POLITICAL report.
 
seewithyourowneyes said:
do you have anything new? no none of you do...you just sit there (most of you seem to live on the computer) none of you have answered one question with anything credible...
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You came into this knowing apparently full well what the responses to each of your cliche claims would be, and decided on their credibility. As far as I'm concerned if you're not explaining the basis for pasting over multiple, repeated claims we all heard in 2006 or earlier, then you're not here for much of a legitimate debate
 
seewithyourowneyes said:
Another Ignored 9/11 Clue: Bomb Sniffing Dogs Removed From WTC Days Before Attack

Jon Rappoport | June 28 2004

As you’ll see from the Newsday excerpt below, tight security at the Twin Towers in NYC was lightened in the days just before the 9/11 attacks.

What makes the particular removal of bomb-sniffing dogs so important are statements from firemen that they heard bombs going off in the Towers on 9/11, as they were carrying out their rescue operation.

Naturally, if people were planting bombs in the Towers, they would not have wanted those charges to be discovered by trained dogs prior to 9/11.

This matter of the dogs and the statements of firemen about bombs were completely ignored by the 9/11 commission.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2004/062804ignoredclue.htm
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Polly want a cracker?
 
seewithyourowneyes said:
do you have anything new? no none of you do...you just sit there (most of you seem to live on the computer) none of you have answered one question with anything credible...
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Do you not understand the quote function?

If you want to reply to someone, click on the "quote" button at the bottom of that person's post, and it will put their text in a cool quote box.

New Truther Guy who post large amounts of **** said:
I have absolutely nothing of substance to add to this discussion, so I am going to spam crap from random other places, and then ignore complete and factual responses. I like JAQ'ing off, and spamming the forum
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It is a fact that there are hundreds of witnesses who reported hearing and feeling massive explosions..Not one of them, Firefighters,workers who made it out from the towers....William Rodriguez. you all know who he is not one witness was ever questioned or allowed to testify in the investigation of why the towers fell. There has been an obvious blanket policy to discredit any scientist,mathematician,professor etcby the mainstream media. I bet all of you believe that the Federal Reserve is run by our Government.....Do any of you know that on the night before nine one one Donald Rumsfeld was on National TV talking about $2.3 Trillion Dollars missing from the Pentagons Budget... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rRqeJcuK-A

Did any of you know that? where's the $$$$$ Let me put things into perspective......If I spent One Million Dollars everyday since Jesus Christ was born up until today I would have only spent around $750 billion.....

How about the black budget???? ya ever hear of Molecular dissociation???? Look into it!

I'm not going to waste much of my time here...Trust me! I have better things to do!
 
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