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Does making up moronic lies make you tired? That was the dumbest post I have seen in a long time. You keep repeating the failed lies of 911 truth as if you had evidence, and you clearly have zero evidence. It is like you are plagiarizing 911 truth. You have no respect for Jewish people as you say they did 911, and you make the claim with zero evidence. You try to say since they attacked the USS Liberty they did 911? They attacked our spy ship, we know they did it, and now you say they did 911 but we don't know they did it, but you know they did because you have no evidence and they did the Liberty. Wow, is that 911 truth logic? Voice morphing is a big lie, there was no voice morphing on 911, and to push that idiotic claims take a lot of disrespect for those who died on 911, those who stood up on 911 on Flight 93 and took action against the terrorists and caused them to fail. As you fail to understand 911, you have no excuse, you have wasted 10 years to start posting lies and made up fantasy, with total disregard for the truth.

Passengers on Flight 93 figured out 911 in minutes; why can't you do it given 10 years? When the rules of 911 were known, the USA stopped the terrorists, and it was citizens who did it, in the long tradition of citizen soldiers standing up and taking action; something you can't do with you lies and fantasy claims.
I have a lot of respect for Jewish people if you missed my earlier post I said a JEWISH doctor selflessly saved my dad's life. It would be the utmost hypocrisy for me to dis like Jewish people. I NEVER said jews did 9/11 please don't say I said that. I have only said elites or Zionists, if Mossad did plant bombs they were simply brain washed. Evil people of all races planned the events of that day.
 
Let me start by saying aren't you the guy that thought flight 175 was the one that went down near Pittsburgh? If I were to make a mistake like that...and it was no type-o you did it twice, you guys would still be laughing. I mean and now I read this. Your last question How many tons of thermite was used in your fantasy? I mean you yourself wrote what I wrote, see the highlighted section above. You literally typed the answer to your own question. I truly don't even know where to start with this...I really don't. There's so many things I could say..but I won't I'll try to address your questions.
No steel showed showed signs of thermite?
Watch these two videos by Jon Cole who actually took the time to do experiments. Yes in fact steel beams were found with Sulfur on them, which should not have been there..cole explains much better then I would. If you don't like his results do exactly what he says, prove him wrong by experiment. Should be no problem since all the physics and chemistry is on your side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvQDFV1HINw&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d5iIoCiI8g

As far as pictures go (aside from what cole presented) look at these two videos. They are both of John Gross (lying I might add) with pictures that look pretty close to Molten steel in fact it just might be but it can't be can it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SLIzSCt_cg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs_ogSbQFbM







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I don't know how you want me to answer this. Anything they have done can be found at their site. Whether you think it is of value or not is up to you.
http://www.ae911truth.org/
Who said 175 went down near Pittsburgh? 175 hit the WTC. Post your source. It is a bigger laugh you blame Jews for doing 911, that is an idiotic claim.


The video where thermite was used on steel clearly shows thermite products remaining fused to the steel, and no melted steel is flowing for days. Thermite reacts very quickly, it would not burn for weeks. The video debunks the video claims thermite was used on the WTC. You should pay attention next time and see the products of thermite fused to the steel, it would have been seen on the steel. You failed this time, better try Bigfoot, they have the exact same evidence but they don't disrespect the dead and make up lies about Jews and the USA.

Show me the sulfur, if you had taken chemical engineering in college like I did you will see the sulfur from corrosion formed a eutectic on the steel when it was exposed to fire. No melted steel, it was corroded. But go ahead produce the yellow sulfur on the steel. This will be good. Photo please, point out the sulfur on the beam, "steel beams were found with Sulfur on them,". Was it to keep away the mites?
 
Nevermind, I see out new friend is ful-blown truther. No doubt a brand-new truther, because it's 2006 all over again!

He just hasn't made the pod claim yet...
 
Bin laden was living in a Cave...hence Cave man
You have evidence OBL was living in a cave? Can you link to it? :rolleyes:

And even if e had been, how does this make him unable to plan the 9/11 attacks?
 
Who said 175 went down near Pittsburgh? 175 hit the WTC. Post your source. It is a bigger laugh you blame Jews for doing 911, that is an idiotic claim.


The video where thermite was used on steel clearly shows thermite products remaining fused to the steel, and no melted steel is flowing for days. Thermite reacts very quickly, it would not burn for weeks. The video debunks the video claims thermite was used on the WTC. You should pay attention next time and see the products of thermite fused to the steel, it would have been seen on the steel. You failed this time, better try Bigfoot, they have the exact same evidence but they don't disrespect the dead and make up lies about Jews and the USA.

Show me the sulfur, if you had taken chemical engineering in college like I did you will see the sulfur from corrosion formed a eutectic on the steel when it was exposed to fire. No melted steel, it was corroded. But go ahead produce the yellow sulfur on the steel. This will be good. Photo please, point out the sulfur on the beam, "steel beams were found with Sulfur on them,". Was it to keep away the mites?


You did look at the 20th post of this thread. See Jon cole's videos look at the FEMA report...there was Sulfur.
 
I have a lot of respect for Jewish people if you missed my earlier post I said a JEWISH doctor selflessly saved my dad's life. It would be the utmost hypocrisy for me to dis like Jewish people. I NEVER said jews did 9/11 please don't say I said that. I have only said elites or Zionists, if Mossad did plant bombs they were simply brain washed. Evil people of all races planned the events of that day.
No, you have zero respect for those who died on 911, and Jews. You blame Jews for doing 911 without evidence, that is zero respect, you offer zero evidnece and you post a lie about Jews. That adds up to zero respect and then you make the statement, a Jew saved my dad. Your best friends are... right.

Brain washed? Got evidence. No, it is fantasy.

You said Flight 93 crash site did not look right, you were wrong. Did you make that up, or plagiarize that from 911 truth? Did you get it from the math moron Balsamo at p4t?
 
You have evidence OBL was living in a cave? Can you link to it? :rolleyes:

And even if e had been, how does this make him unable to plan the 9/11 attacks?

Listen I was simply doing that to show how one can make any story seem believable or not believable. You can simply say look how simple 19 men hijacked planes and flew them into buildings. The story I gave makes it seem much more difficult.
 
You did look at the 20th post of this thread. See Jon cole's videos look at the FEMA report...there was Sulfur.

I said by mistake Flight 175, it was 93. Flight 93 was not shot down. Flight 93 Passengers figure out 911 in minutes, you can't do it given 10 years. I call all my kids by the wrong names too. But I figured out 911 in days, you can't do it given 10 years and you make up lies about it, blame Jews, and repeat all the failed claims of 911 truth, offering no evidence, no facts.

You said.
"steel beams were found with Sulfur on them,".
Show us the sulfur on the steel beams. Photo please, is it yellow sulfur, or steel color sulfur? What do you mean?
 
No, you have zero respect for those who died on 911, and Jews. You blame Jews for doing 911 without evidence, that is zero respect, you offer zero evidnece and you post a lie about Jews. That adds up to zero respect and then you make the statement, a Jew saved my dad. Your best friends are... right.

Brain washed? Got evidence. No, it is fantasy.

You said Flight 93 crash site did not look right, you were wrong. Did you make that up, or plagiarize that from 911 truth? Did you get it from the math moron Balsamo at p4t?

If you say one more time I said Jews did 911 I am going to report you to the admins. Say what you want about my theories I never said any such thing. Flight 93 from the evidence of scatted debris appears to have been shot down, some way it was rolling debris, I say the evidence looks other wise, because of the size of the impact crater, it would have appeared to be a vertical descent. Eye witnesses said this also.
 
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I said by mistake Flight 175, it was 93. Flight 93 was not shot down. Flight 93 Passengers figure out 911 in minutes, you can't do it given 10 years. I call all my kids by the wrong names too. But I figured out 911 in days, you can't do it given 10 years and you make up lies about it, blame Jews, and repeat all the failed claims of 911 truth, offering no evidence, no facts.

You said. Show us the sulfur on the steel beams. Photo please, is it yellow sulfur, or steel color sulfur? What do you mean?

Look at this, it is right from the FEMA report.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/metallurgy/WTC_apndxC.htm
 
If you say one more time I said Jews did 911 I am going to report you to the admins. Say what you want about my theories I never said any such thing. Flight 93 from the evidence of scatted debris appears to have been shot down, some way it was rolling debris, I say the evidence looks other wise, because of the size of the impact crater, it would have appeared to be a vertical descent. Eye witnessed said this also.


if they did plant explosives in the buildings, they did it because they were brain-washed into thinking something like this needed to happen for the survival of Israel...that Israel was at risk of losing their biggest and to some extent their only ally.

Mossad agents likely planted the explosives in the buildings. Do not get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for Jewish people, if it were Mossad agents
Oops, you said Jews did it. Darn.
... As far as who planted explosives in the WTC...if there were...it would most likely be Mossad agents. ...

What was wrong with Flight 93? It was not shot down. Flight 93 target was not WTC 7, 93 was headed to DC. There is a FDR, why do you fail to use evidence?
 
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Show us where you got the story
"steel beams were found with Sulfur on them,".
I did a search for "sulfur on" and it was zero. Sorry, the report does not say there was sulfur or peanut butter on the steel. Now what? Is this as bad as calling Flt 93, Flt 175, when you know what I meant, or is it due to your lack of knowledge in chemical engineering, or did you just cut and past the "sulfur on" from 911 truth? What did you mean to say?
 
Oops, you said Jews did it. Darn.

What was wrong with Flight 93? It was not shot down. Flight 93 target was not WTC 7, 93 was headed to DC. There is a FDR, why do you fail to use evidence?

Hence the term brain washed, as in used by what I called elites. I have been especially clear every time stating I am not saying all Jews, people pf all races etc...

Way not to address the Sulfur, you were yelling about.
 
Show us where you got the story
I did a search for "sulfur on" and it was zero. Sorry, the report does not say there was sulfur or peanut butter on the steel. Now what? Is this as bad as calling Flt 93, Flt 175, when you know what I meant, or is it due to your lack of knowledge in chemical engineering, or did you just cut and past the "sulfur on" from 911 truth? What did you mean to say?

What are you talking about? Go to the link do you see the section that says C.2 Sample 1 (From WTC 7)
Under that it's 9 lines down and the 6th word over is the first time it appears.
here is the link again

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/metallurgy/WTC_apndxC.htm
 
Hence the term brain washed, as in used by what I called elites. I have been especially clear every time stating I am not saying all Jews, people pf all races etc...

Way not to address the Sulfur, you were yelling about.
You said sulfur was on the steel, it was not on the steel, the paper you post did not have sulfur on the steel. Do you want to explain who told you sulfur was on the steel? I read the paper, no sulfur on the steel. Do you want to change your story? I hinted at the eutectic and corrosion, the paper is about corrosion. Want to explain why sulfur was not on the steel?

Let me clear this up, you said.
"steel beams were found with Sulfur on them,".
You were wrong.

Did a search for "sulfur on", no matches found. You also posted proof the steel did not melt, it was corroded. Did you mean to debunk the melted steel fantasy?

How many beams had sulfur on them? Was it to keep away the mites?
 
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You said sulfur was on the steel, it was not on the steel, the paper you post did not have sulfur on the steel. Do you want to explain who told you sulfur was on the steel? I read the paper, no sulfur on the steel. Do you want to change your story? I hinted at the eutectic and corrosion, the paper is about corrosion. Want to explain why sulfur was not on the steel?
See previous post.
 
I said I won't speak for them, I took it as they were saying video of people saying there was molten steel. Besides here is a copy of an e-mail from Mark Loizeaux president of CDI. So if the guy in the video is lying so is Mark Loizeaux.

And how do you arrive at that conclusion? Loizeaux apparently reported an anecdote which he heard from Peter Tully of Tully Construction. I suggest you contact Tully Construction to inquire about molten steel and the whereabouts of any videos and pics of this molten steel, who exactly determined it was steel and by what process did they arrive at that conclusion. Do let us know how that works out for you.

Incidentally, the original source of this claim is a source-free American Free Press article written by one Christopher Bollyn. I also would suggest contacting him as well but apparently his commitment to the truth was overridden by his need to evade sentencing on assault charges like a coward and is, AFAIK, unavailable for comment.



As for your little Penthouse being the start of the collapse, take a look at this link, it does a good job of explaining it. Again Gross could have but chose not to correct him.
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/09/clarifying-collapse-time-of-wtc-7.html

Synopsis: Didn't see it, didn't happen. I can fully understand why you'd link to that blog though. It says what you want to believe.

Besides even if (and this isn't the case here) someone like those guys were to lie, while still wrong, it is a world of difference. One guy is officially supposed to get to the bottom of biggest crime in U.S. history. The other is just some guy.

Wrong. NIST was not conducting a criminal investigation. Interesting that you'd slander a person who is highly qualified and defend "some guy" who apparently hasn't a clue what he's on about. That says a lot.
 
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See previous post.
So you lied, there was no "sulfur on" the steel. It was in the steel, formed a eutectic, and left you in the dark. How will you tie corroded steel into your fantasy of what happen on 911? Wax on, "sulfur on". You have no idea what to do now so you will avoid fixing what you meant to say. Did you take a Chem Engr course in college?
 
And how do you arrive at that conclusion? Loizeaux apparently reported an anecdote which he heard from Peter Tully of Tully Construction. I suggest you contact Tully Construction to inquire about molten steel and the whereabouts of any videos and pics of this molten steel, who exactly determined it was steel and by what process did they arrive at that conclusion. Do let us know how that works out for you.

Incidentally, the original source of this claim is a source-free American Free Press article written by one Christopher Bollyn. I also would suggest contacting him as well but apparently his commitment to the truth was overridden by his need to evade sentencing on assault charges like a coward and is, AFAIK, unavailable for comment.





Synopsis: Didn't see it, didn't happen. I can fully understand why you'd link to that blog though. It says what you want to believe.



Wrong. NIST was not conducting a criminal investigation. Interesting that you'd slander a person who is highly qualified and defend "some guy" who apparently hasn't a clue what he's on about. That says a lot.

*sigh* did you read the e-mail? It says that Loizeaux said there are videos and pictures of Molten steel. Hence why he would be a liar if there were none. I don't like Bollyn at all but I'm sure 911 myths would have done everything in their power to discredit that e-mail. Besides, look at the several videos I posted of Gross you can clearly see in one of the videos (videos within the video that is) two people standing around a big black mass...saying this is Molten steel. Can I say with 100% certainty that it is no...but it sure looks like it. Hence there is more then likely video of Molten steel.

You believe what you want to believe about the penthouse and the collapse time, most people would say that fell in under 7 seconds.

I'm sorry you're right, how dare I hold someone charged with the responsibility of investigating the greatest crime in US history...funded by tax payer dollars, to a higher standard to some average Joe, that almost certainly has good intentions. I won't do that again.
 
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