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If by ruining your thread, you mean providing a plausible theory with evidence (something you asked for) to back it up, and answering any and all challenges, then yes I ruined your thread. As far as ruining my point...seems like no one has yet.

You've yet to provide a plausible theory or offer any supporting facts. You've done nothing to call into question the fact that 19 Al Qaida members hijacked planes and crashed them into the WTC. You've not implicated the US or Israeli government. You've not established any evidence whatsoever of a controlled demolition of any buildings. You've made some unsupported assumptions, the odd appeal to authority and accused people of mass murder without a reasonable ground to do so. You've failed to make any points at all. Run along now. You've accomplished nothing here.
 
You've yet to provide a plausible theory or offer any supporting facts. You've done nothing to call into question the fact that 19 Al Qaida members hijacked planes and crashed them into the WTC. You've not implicated the US or Israeli government. You've not established any evidence whatsoever of a controlled demolition of any buildings. You've made some unsupported assumptions, the odd appeal to authority and accused people of mass murder without a reasonable ground to do so. You've failed to make any points at all. Run along now. You've accomplished nothing here.

I will no longer respond to posts like this. If you want to disagree with what I stated or challenge me, that is fine. Just don't make blanket accusations, and accuse me of doing things. I certainly did all of those things, if you want to disagree or challenge me on them that is fine, but don't say I didn't do them.
 
TMD2_1, answer the question; is what Noah posted more likely than the official story?

What on God's earth are you talking about???


You know what let me reply to that. I can easily make something that sounds just as good.
Let me try.
Do you honestly believe that a cave man...living thousands of miles away, was able to plan and execute the greatest crime in the history of the US?
No, the official story is that believe a rich boy civil engineer who helped found and run a massive terrorist organization planned and executed said terrorist attack with the help of said massive organization.

I mean 19 men beat aircraft security, 4 different times.
Using, essentially, the exact same security holes.

They successfully took over the planes 4 different times, armed with box cutters. I mean box cutters of all things, they mine as well not have been armed at all.
Do you have any idea how easy it is to slide a boxcutter into a jugular vein? PROTIP: Very.

All 4 planes were able to somehow slip past the greatest military in the world, with the most sophisticated equipment in the world.
They didn't "slip past" anything. by the time the military got their shorts on, so to speak, the attacks were pretty much over.

That 3 out of the 4 planes successfully hit there targets, and if it wasn't for the courage of the passengers of one plane it would have hit their fourth.
Yes, and? Hitting a building is a lot easier than landing a plane.

That cell phone calls were made several times when they were all but impossible.
No they weren't, and why would the conspirators tell such an obvious lie?

That extremely novice pilots showed impressive flight skills especially the pilot at the pentagon, who reportedly had trouble flying a Cessna.
See my point about hitting a building.

That our military just happened to find a tape lying around in Afghanistan of Bi Laden confessing.
What tape? Or are you talking about the ones publicly posted on the Internet and television where Al Qaeda claimed responsibility?

Even with the tapes dubious authenticity,
You mean the ones authenticated in multiple counrt trials, perchance?

some of the translation is very much in question. That the FBI didn't have Bin Laden as wanted for 9/11 and when asked why simply stated we have no hard evidence against him.
No, there was no conclusive, unclassified evidence. He was already indicted for an earlier bombing. Why wouldn't the bad guys just cook up some evidence and charge him on that, evidence like the tape you're insinuating is fake?

Then after almost 10 years of trying to catch this guy when we finally do, absolutely no proof is shown. We wanted to "honor" muslim traditions by burying him within 24 hours, and didn't want to "spike the football" as Obama put it.
Respect to a fallen enemy who is going to become a martyr either way? How dastardly!

Now does that sound at all reasonable to you?
Not the story you told, no. What really happened, yes. All you have is straw men.

There's many more things I could...but you get my point, but hey that was fun thanks for giving me the idea.
I do so love fairy tales.
 
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Excuse me? I though you said these guys were professional architects and engineers? Is this how groundbreaking work is done in these fields, by starting a web site???

Where's the papers published in respected journals? It couldn't be that 1,500 highly qualified architects and engineers haven't published anything nearly 10 years after 9/11, could it?

Why do you suppose they dont? :rolleyes:

I don't know what to say..like I said you are free to have you're own opinion of their work. I wouldn't base the validity of it on where it was published or not published, but on if it makes sense or not. But you're free to do what you want.
 
I will no longer respond to posts like this. If you want to disagree with what I stated or challenge me, that is fine. Just don't make blanket accusations, and accuse me of doing things. I certainly did all of those things, if you want to disagree or challenge me on them that is fine, but don't say I didn't do them.

Can you place any agents of the Israeli government at the WTC planting explosives yes or no?
 
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Can you place any agents of the Israeli government at the WTC planting explosives yes or no?

I can place 5 of them dancing and celebrating right after the attacks. Any by all reports the camera was recording before the attack. I can place about 200 Israeli agents arrested on the months after 9/11. Is that good enough?
 
I can place 5 of them dancing and celebrating right after the attacks. Any by all reports the camera was recording before the attack. I can place about 200 Israeli agents arrested on the months after 9/11. Is that good enough?

Not unless you can tie them to the attacks. Where were the 200 agents arrested and for what crimes?
 
TMD2_1, answer the question; is what Noah posted more likely than the official story?

As I said before in my estimation the most likely scenario is that the pentagon was planned by the upper echelons of the Bush administration, while other much more evil people planned the WTC taking advantage of the confusion because of war games etc.... Mossad agents likely planted the explosives in the buildings. Do not get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for Jewish people, if it were Mossad agents, they were just a tool brain washed into thinking that this needed to happen to secure the future of Israel. The real planners would have been people of all races, I'll just call them elites...looking to start endless war, and bring in a Police state. No one can argue our civil liberties have greatly diminished since that day. Let me try to address some of what was in that post. Voice morphing software was available at that time. See this article. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/dotmil/arkin020199.htm

Israel has attacked the US before (it cleverly states on U.S. but it makes no difference where the attack happened)...again don't get me wrong...these were brainwashed people. See these two articles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lavon_Affair and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident From what I read all survivors don't think this was an accident.

I may post more later...about this...getting physically tired right now.
 
Please prove that there was sulfur found on the steel beams. After you do that establish that the sulfur was a component in a thermite or explosive device.
 
Not unless you can tie them to the attacks. Where were the 200 agents arrested and for what crimes?

Take a look at this four part series by Carl Cameron. It has a lot about the Israels arrested. It may have only been 60, I know somewhere I saw 200, but perhaps I was mistaken. I will try to find it. I apologize for this potential error. This is just the first part...you can get to the others easily though from there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo
 
Please prove that there was sulfur found on the steel beams. After you do that establish that the sulfur was a component in a thermite or explosive device.

Look at Jon Cole's videos I've posted them many times.
 
Take a look at this four part series by Carl Cameron. It has a lot about the Israels arrested. It may have only been 60, I know somewhere I saw 200, but perhaps I was mistaken. I will try to find it. I apologize for this potential error. This is just the first part...you can get to the others easily though from there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo

The video says "suspect" a lot. It offers no evidence. It does not prove Israel knew about 9/11. It does nothing to tie Israel to the attacks.
 
As I said before in my estimation the most likely scenario is that the pentagon was planned by the upper echelons of the Bush administration, while other much more evil people planned the WTC taking advantage of the confusion because of war games etc.... Mossad agents likely planted the explosives in the buildings. Do not get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for Jewish people, if it were Mossad agents, they were just a tool brain washed into thinking that this needed to happen to secure the future of Israel. The real planners would have been people of all races, I'll just call them elites...looking to start endless war, and bring in a Police state. No one can argue our civil liberties have greatly diminished since that day. Let me try to address some of what was in that post. Voice morphing software was available at that time. See this article. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/dotmil/arkin020199.htm

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I may post more later...about this...getting physically tired right now.
Does making up moronic lies make you tired? That was the dumbest post I have seen in a long time. You keep repeating the failed lies of 911 truth as if you had evidence, and you clearly have zero evidence. It is like you are plagiarizing 911 truth. You have no respect for Jewish people as you say they did 911, and you make the claim with zero evidence. You try to say since they attacked the USS Liberty they did 911? They attacked our spy ship, we know they did it, and now you say they did 911 but we don't know they did it, but you know they did because you have no evidence and they did the Liberty. Wow, is that 911 truth logic? Voice morphing is a big lie, there was no voice morphing on 911, and to push that idiotic claims take a lot of disrespect for those who died on 911, those who stood up on 911 on Flight 93 and took action against the terrorists and caused them to fail. As you fail to understand 911, you have no excuse, you have wasted 10 years to start posting lies and made up fantasy, with total disregard for the truth.

Passengers on Flight 93 figured out 911 in minutes; why can't you do it given 10 years? When the rules of 911 were known, the USA stopped the terrorists, and it was citizens who did it, in the long tradition of citizen soldiers standing up and taking action; something you can't do with you lies and fantasy claims.
 
If by ruining your thread, you mean providing a plausible theory with evidence (something you asked for) to back it up, and answering any and all challenges, then yes I ruined your thread. As far as ruining my point...seems like no one has yet.
Wait, what? You posted evidence? Where?
 
The video says "suspect" a lot. It offers no evidence. It does not prove Israel knew about 9/11. It does nothing to tie Israel to the attacks.

Believe what you want..take a look at this video..it is out of sync but it does a good job of summing up the evidence. The first part with the police transmission, did happen on Sep 11, well at least Norman Mineta gave testimony to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nUea8BDEKU
 
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