Richard Gage Blueprint for Truth Rebuttals on YouTube by Chris Mohr

[Clayton Moore]

I have helped hundreds of grieving families through the heart-wrenching process of preparing a funeral for a loved one. Dylan Avery engaged in vigilante investigating, invading the privacy of a family at an extremely difficult time. I take seriously Barry Jennings's testimony and have watched it several times, thank you. To whoever hasn't done so, please watch my video now so you can see what I mean.

So you think Barry Jennings was lying about being trapped in WTC 7 before the towers collapsed?

 

[brazenlilraisin]

Who edited the WTC 5 page, Jammonius?

A section of the fuselage allegedly from United Airlines flight 175 is claimed to have landed on the top of the building but that has never been varified vis-a-vis independently corroborated forensic analysis. In fact there is credible evidence to show the only FEMA/ASCE photographic record subsequently released into the public domain that claims to show UA175 fuselage wreckage "discovered" on the rooftop of WTC 5 had indeed been falsified by the use of Adobe Photoshop.

Disgusting.

 

[alienentity]

So you think Barry Jennings was lying about being trapped in WTC 7 before the towers collapsed?

You're completely missing the obvious other possibility that he was simply mistaken about the timing of events. He was inside the building so was in no position to know either way. The window that they broke was not on a side of the building which faced the WTC towers.
Unless you think he had x-ray vision..... perhaps he was simply confused. Nobody is accusing him of lying.

This is similar in nature to the Willy Rodriguez story where he thought he felt a bomb or explosion before the plane hit. But again there was no way for him to know since he was deep inside the tower, in the basement.

Just because people perceive something in an unexpected situation doesn't mean they are correct. People do make mistakes, y'know. Especially eyewitnesses in stressful situations.

 

[tfk]

Child,

Not sure if tfk's post is worth replying to. He merely regurgitates Bazantian fantasy physics.

Bazant:
Education
C.E., Czech Technical University, Prague, Civil Engineering (Structural Engineering) 1960
Ph.D. (in mechanics)., Czechoslovak Academy of Sciences, Prague 1963
Postgraduate diploma in Physics, Charles University, Prague 1966
Docent habil., Czech Technical University, Prague 1967
S.E. 1970, Illinois Registered Structural Engineer

Teaching Activities
Inelastic Analysis of Structures
Stability of Structures
Cohesive Fracture and Scaling

Honors and Awards
Elected to: National Academy of Sciences;
National Academy of Engineering;
American Academy of Arts and Sciences;
Austrian Academy of Sciences;
Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Rome);
Spanish Royal Academy of Engrg.;
Engrg. Academy of Czech Rep.;
Academia di Scienze e Lettere (Milan);
European Academy of Sciences and Arts.

Six Honorary Doctorates (Boulder, Prague, Karlsruhe, Milan, Lyon, Vienna).

Awards & Prizes
Prager Medal from Society of Engineering Sciences;
von Karman Medal;
Newmark Medal;
Lifetime Achievement Award;
Croes Medal;
Huber Prize and TY Lin Award from ASCE;
Honarary Member ASCE;
Nadai Medal and Warner Medal from ASME;
L'Hermite Medal from RILEM;
Exner Medal, Austria;
Humboldt Prize, Germany;
Torroja Medal, Spain;
Solin Medal, Prague;
Z. Bazant (Sr.) Medal, Prague;
Stodola Medal, Slovakia;
Roy Award, Am.Ceramic Soc.;
ICOSSAR Award;
Czech Soc. for Mech. Medal;
Outstanding Contribution Award, IACMAS;
Guggenheim, NATO, JSPS, Humboldt, Ford and Kajima Fellowships;
National Winner, 1958 Math.Olympics, Czechoslovakia;

Among top 100 Highly Cited Scientist in Engineering ( >9300 citations )

Former President of SES, IA-FRAMCOS (founder) and IA-CONCREEP (founder);
Former Editor, Journal of Engineering Mechanics, ASCE.

Selected Publications

Textbooks (Number: 6)

Books Edited with Chapter Contributions (Number: 20)

State-of-Art Articles and Research Review Articles (Number: 51)

Published Biographies and Volumes Dedicated to Bazant (Number: 12)

Research Articles in Conference Proceedings (Number: 208)

Public Policy Contributions (Number: 5)

Research Articles in Refereed Journals and Book Chapters (Number: 484)

___

Feel free, child, to publish your resume, CV or list of publications.

He seems to be talking about the twin towers here, for reasons unknown. Or for the reason that he had no clue what was being discussed in the first place.

Apparently, you failed to comprehend that the equation that you cited ("F = ma") applies to every interaction of every object in this universe.

Objects which include WTC1, 2 & 7.

In any case, in lay terms, the impact of the upper building portion on the lower building portion will be transferred through much of or the entire lower building portion--on account of the intact structural steel framing.

And yet, F = ma.

And there are various parts that are accelerating, and others that are not.

A car is driving thru a field of corn stalks at a CONSTANT 30 mph.

The front bumper is hitting stalks of corn.
By Newton's 3rd law, the force that the bumper is exerting on the corn is equal & opposite to the force that the corn is exerting on the bumper.

And yet, the corn is accelerating during the collision while the front bumper is NOT.

The net force on the corn is a high value.
The net force on the bumper is zero.

Get it yet?

The forces that the colliding bodies exert on each other have to be equal in magnitude & opposite in direction, but there is nothing that says that these are the ONLY forces that can be operating on either body.

What tfk is pretending to "explain" here makes no sense.

Your ignorance does not make the physics a "fantasy".


It's time for you to either attempt to learn some rudimentary concepts or to be hush.

 

[chrismohr]

Chris, in Part 15 in point 195 you state that WT7 was squat and that it was wider than it was tall. This is incorrect. It clearly was taller than it was wide or deep.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center

You're right. I made a mistake there.
Chris

 

[chrismohr]

So you think Barry Jennings was lying about being trapped in WTC 7 before the towers collapsed?

Clayton,

Have you seen my video yet? I did not debunk or deny what Barry Jennings said. Please watch it. That's not my point. My point is a matter of heart, of ethics, of respect for a grieving family. Please preface the next response to this by saying yes I watched your YouTube video. From this response I doubt you have.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

Clayton,

Have you seen my video yet? I did not debunk or deny what Barry Jennings said. Please watch it. That's not my point. My point is a matter of heart, of ethics, of respect for a grieving family. Please preface the next response to this by saying yes I watched your YouTube video. From this response I doubt you have.

And this surprises you?

 

[ergo]

Bazant:
Education
C.E., Czech Technical University, Prague, Civil Engineering (Structural Engineering) 1960
Ph.D. (in mechanics)., Czechoslovak Academy of Sciences, Prague 1963
Postgraduate diploma in Physics, Charles University, Prague 1966
Docent habil., Czech Technical University, Prague 1967
S.E. 1970, Illinois Registered Structural Engineer

Teaching Activities
Inelastic Analysis of Structures
Stability of Structures
Cohesive Fracture and Scaling

Honors and Awards
Elected to: National Academy of Sciences;
National Academy of Engineering;
American Academy of Arts and Sciences;
Austrian Academy of Sciences;
Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Rome);
Spanish Royal Academy of Engrg.;
Engrg. Academy of Czech Rep.;
Academia di Scienze e Lettere (Milan);
European Academy of Sciences and Arts.

Six Honorary Doctorates (Boulder, Prague, Karlsruhe, Milan, Lyon, Vienna).

Awards & Prizes
Prager Medal from Society of Engineering Sciences;
von Karman Medal;
Newmark Medal;
Lifetime Achievement Award;
Croes Medal;
Huber Prize and TY Lin Award from ASCE;
Honarary Member ASCE;
Nadai Medal and Warner Medal from ASME;
L'Hermite Medal from RILEM;
Exner Medal, Austria;
Humboldt Prize, Germany;
Torroja Medal, Spain;
Solin Medal, Prague;
Z. Bazant (Sr.) Medal, Prague;
Stodola Medal, Slovakia;
Roy Award, Am.Ceramic Soc.;
ICOSSAR Award;
Czech Soc. for Mech. Medal;
Outstanding Contribution Award, IACMAS;
Guggenheim, NATO, JSPS, Humboldt, Ford and Kajima Fellowships;
National Winner, 1958 Math.Olympics, Czechoslovakia;

Among top 100 Highly Cited Scientist in Engineering ( >9300 citations )

Former President of SES, IA-FRAMCOS (founder) and IA-CONCREEP (founder);
Former Editor, Journal of Engineering Mechanics, ASCE.

Selected Publications

Textbooks (Number: 6)

Books Edited with Chapter Contributions (Number: 20)

State-of-Art Articles and Research Review Articles (Number: 51)

Published Biographies and Volumes Dedicated to Bazant (Number: 12)

Research Articles in Conference Proceedings (Number: 208)

Public Policy Contributions (Number: 5)

Research Articles in Refereed Journals and Book Chapters (Number: 484)

I know. And he conjures up silliness like crush down, crush up. And even draws a picture about it. And the JEM publishes it. It's frightening.

Apparently, you failed to comprehend that the equation that you cited ("F = ma") applies to every interaction of every object in this universe.

Nope. I'm the one who explained that to you.

A car is driving thru a field of corn stalks at a CONSTANT 30 mph.

The front bumper is hitting stalks of corn.
By Newton's 3rd law, the force that the bumper is exerting on the corn is equal & opposite to the force that the corn is exerting on the bumper.

And yet, the corn is accelerating during the collision while the front bumper is NOT.

The net force on the corn is a high value.
The net force on the bumper is zero.

Get it yet?

Yes, you've just described why the smaller, more structurally damaged upper block will be the one to experience the most change.

 

[beachnut]

I know. And he conjures up silliness like crush down, crush up. And even draws a picture about it. And the JEM publishes it. It's frightening.


Nope. I'm the one who explained that to you.


Yes, you've just described why the smaller, more structurally damaged upper block will be the one to experience the most change.

Please show your equations to support your claims. When can we expect you to show your work? Any time soon? Today, next week? When?
You last sentence was nonsensical, and most anti-intellectual. When will you post your work refuting Bazant's work? Gage failed to refute the work, can you do better?

 

[tfk]

[… after list of Bazant's astonishing life-time accomplishments …]

I know. And he conjures up silliness like crush down, crush up. And even draws a picture about it. And the JEM publishes it. It's frightening.

No, it's not frightening in the slightest.

As proven by the acceptance of the world's engineers, engineering societies, engineering school faculties, etc.

The fact that a tiny number of clueless angry little boys rail against it on the interwebz is utterly irrelevant.

Cute, in that "let's watch this brain-dead jerk embarrass himself" kinda way.

But still amusingly irrelevant.

Apparently, you failed to comprehend that the equation that you cited ("F = ma") applies to every interaction of every object in this universe.

Nope. I'm the one who explained that to you.

Sorry, you understand none of it. As a direct consequence, you are incapable of explaining it to anyone.

A car is driving thru a field of corn stalks at a CONSTANT 30 mph...

Yes, you've just described why the smaller, more structurally damaged upper block will be the one to experience the most change.

Yeah, your 'tude, arrogance and ignorance prevented you from understanding this the first 78 times people far, far more knowledgeable than you have tried to hold your hand & walk you thru the concept.

No reason to expect the 79th time to turn out any different …

 

[chrismohr]

Hey all,
An anti-Semitic 9/11 truth guy asked me if I was Jewish. How do sincere 9/11 Truth activists feel about the disturbingly high percentage of bona fide antisemites in your camp? I'm not talking about people who oppose Israel's foreign policy or other aspects of that government... I mean people who hate Jews. It bugs me and I wonder if others in the 9/11 Truth movement take action to distance themselves from them, much as a Republican politician would distance himself from a blatant racist.

 

[bill smith]

Hi EDX,

Well I watched the John Gross/NIST video and he was wrong to deny eyewitness accounts of molten steel/iron, accounts did exist. The 9/11 activist was challenging but respectful and John's answer was not... and he misstated the fact that people had testified to molten metal.

I didn't include the two visuals you mentioned, but they would have been good. The whole thing is over 3 hours long so I had to cut something!

I didn't say fire-induced explosions are common exactly. I did list all the things that explode in fire, and I also said I've seen explosions in a fire I witnessed once.

Glad you like it; I'll be interested to hear more as these come out. Chris

Would you say that John Gross was actually fully aware that there had been reports of molten metel when he denied the same ?

 

[beachnut]

Hey all,
An anti-Semitic 9/11 truth guy asked me if I was Jewish. How do sincere 9/11 Truth activists feel about the disturbingly high percentage of bona fide antisemites in your camp? I'm not talking about people who oppose Israel's foreign policy or other aspects of that government... I mean people who hate Jews. It bugs me and I wonder if others in the 9/11 Truth movement take action to distance themselves from them, much as a Republican politician would distance himself from a blatant racist.

It is not really a camp. Gage is running a scam (or he is incredibly dense) to take money from the people who fail to understand 911. With this money Gage travels and pays himself a salary just under the 25 percent bracket for taxes - using money from his non-profit org to travel and pay expenses. Why would Gage take time to figure out dirt-dumb neoNASIs are sending him money and agreeing with his insane claims?

 

[NoahFence]

The last thing any truther wants to do is distance themselves from other truthers, no matter how uncivilized or stupid they may be.

 

[chrismohr]

Would you say that John Gross was actually fully aware that there had been reports of molten metel when he denied the same ?

Hard to say. He made a misstatemennt that has gotten a lot of press in the 9/11 Truth movement, and it seemed fair to agree that he was wrong to say that then see if the eyewitness accounts proved true (I don't think so).

Fair enough?

 

[Oz1976]

Clayton,

Have you seen my video yet? I did not debunk or deny what Barry Jennings said. Please watch it. That's not my point. My point is a matter of heart, of ethics, of respect for a grieving family. Please preface the next response to this by saying yes I watched your YouTube video. From this response I doubt you have.

Unfortunately Chris, Clayton will more than likely not watch it. He's most certain of his ways, especially his ideas that the Jews are the ultimate evil in the world and are responsible for 911 among other things and that the holocaust was a hoax. It's probably best to just ignore him, he's not rational on any subject and has never answered any direct questions we've posed him on this forum.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

it is not really a camp. Gage is running a scam (or he is incredibly dense) to take money from the people who fail to understand 911. With this money gage travels and pays himself a salary just under the 25 percent bracket for taxes - using money from his non-profit org to travel and pay expenses. Why would gage take time to figure out dirt-dumb neonasis are sending him money and agreeing with his insane claims?

Fixed that for you.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Hi all,

This was my most difficult YouTube rebuttal video to produce, because it gets me where I live. As a guy who has helped hundreds of grieving families go through the wrenching process of preparing funerals or memorial services, I got really upset when I heard about Dylan Avery hiring a private investigator to go after eyewitness Barry Jennings's cause of death. I tried to keep my cool, but didn't entirely succeed, as you will see in the video from the way I looked while talking about this.

Here's a link to Part 16 of my Gage rebuttal, Eyewitness Accounts and Foreknowledge of Destruction of Building 7:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajIr2G4wFn4

Chris Mohr

Sorry Chris Mohr. As far as two of three eyewitnesses changing their story I'd say the two changed their story under duress. As for investigating Jennings death since when has the MSM respected a family when the STORY is 9/11 BIG?


Certainly a PI dropping an investigation of the cause of death of a high profile witness like Barry Jennings like a hot potato is 9/11 BIG story in itself.

Your whole series is scripted so how about posting the text?

 

[Oz1976]

Sorry Chris Mohr. As far as two of three eyewitnesses changing their story I'd say the two changed their story under duress. As for investigating Jennings death since when has the MSM respected a family when the STORY is 9/11 BIG?


Certainly a PI dropping an investigation of the cause of death of a high profile witness like Barry Jennings like a hot potato is 9/11 BIG story in itself.

Your whole series is scripted so how about posting the text?

You comprehend nothing do you?

 

[Sam.I.Am]

Barry Jennings is "High Profile"? It's no wonder that truthers have been tossed into the trash heap of relevancy.