Richard Gage Blueprint for Truth Rebuttals on YouTube by Chris Mohr

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70 k? Building engineers make 70 k..

Does this statement have a point?

Ice cream parlor owners make 70k
Would you argue differently if Gage made 75k from people who can't figure out 911, or 65k?

As a matter of fact, the last year that figures are available for (2009), Gage made not 70k but 75k from people who can't figure out 911. Does that ruin your argument?
 
Challenging and Difficult Video: Part 16, Eyewitnesses

Hi all,

This was my most difficult YouTube rebuttal video to produce, because it gets me where I live. As a guy who has helped hundreds of grieving families go through the wrenching process of preparing funerals or memorial services, I got really upset when I heard about Dylan Avery hiring a private investigator to go after eyewitness Barry Jennings's cause of death. I tried to keep my cool, but didn't entirely succeed, as you will see in the video from the way I looked while talking about this.

Here's a link to Part 16 of my Gage rebuttal, Eyewitness Accounts and Foreknowledge of Destruction of Building 7:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajIr2G4wFn4

Chris Mohr
 
RedIbis; 1) you maintain a civil approach. Too much "debunking" is really character assassination said:
Even if the "character assassination" is factual?. If you really think a jet airliner sounds like a bus, that an airliner should bounce off the WTC towers or Pentagon or that fire cannot bring down a steel framed building you are either ignorant, stupid or insane or some combination thereof.

Sometimes a spade has to be called a spade:rolleyes:
 
Hi all,

My call for a real independent private investigation of the 9/11 dust appears to have struck a nerve among some people who would really like to see the Harritt/Jones/Ryan et al study replicated... on both sides!


How could such a test resolve anything? The Truthers dust samples do not have a chain of evidence that would stand up in any court and the Truthers are not going to believe any test results on dust held by the Government.

Even if the truthers sample turn up negative for thermite, as they would, they will simply claim the lab was "got at" or that the samples were intercepted in the mail.:(
 
Hi all,

This was my most difficult YouTube rebuttal video to produce, because it gets me where I live. As a guy who has helped hundreds of grieving families go through the wrenching process of preparing funerals or memorial services, I got really upset when I heard about Dylan Avery hiring a private investigator to go after eyewitness Barry Jennings's cause of death. I tried to keep my cool, but didn't entirely succeed, as you will see in the video from the way I looked while talking about this.

Here's a link to Part 16 of my Gage rebuttal, Eyewitness Accounts and Foreknowledge of Destruction of Building 7:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajIr2G4wFn4

Chris Mohr


Why would you be upset that Jenning's death was being investigated?

Listen to Barry Jenning's interviews.


http://jenningsmystery.com/
Summary of Case
Nearly one year ago, on August 19, 2008, 53 year old Barry Jennings died, two days before the release of the NIST Final Report on the collapse of WTC7. Jennings was Deputy Director of Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority. On September 11th, 2001, he saw and heard explosions BEFORE the Twin Towers fell, while attempting to evacuate the WTC 7 Command Center with NYC Corporation Counsel Michael Hess. Jennings publicly shared his experiences with a reporter on the day of 9/11/01, as well as in a lengthy 2007 video interview with Dylan Avery, a small clip of which was then released; subsequently his job was threatened and he asked that the taped interview not be included in Loose Change Final Cut.. However, after an interview with Jennings was broadcast by the BBC in their program The Third Tower ostensibly refuting what he had previously stated to Avery, Avery felt compelled to release the full original video interview to show the distortions made by the BBC. The cause of Jennings' death has not been made public, and a private investigator hired by Avery to discover the cause and circumstances surrounding his death refused to proceed with his investigation. In spite of the significance of Jennings' position with NYC on 9/11 and his controversial eyewitness testimony regarding the collapse of WTC7, the media has not investigated or reported on his death, nor reported on his statements.
 
Does this statement have a point?

Ice cream parlor owners make 70k
Would you argue differently if Gage made 75k from people who can't figure out 911, or 65k?

As a matter of fact, the last year that figures are available for (2009), Gage made not 70k but 75k from people who can't figure out 911. Does that ruin your argument?

No reply from Clayton? I guess that means he had no point.
Thought so.
 
LOL, once again you demonstrate your utter lack of comprehension. It doesn't get any more clear, but you still don't get it.

Suggest you turn your attentions to something you can grasp instead of this subject.

ETA now I am reminded why I have you on ignore.

good, keep me on ignore b/c i know that you are a hard head and not getting it on purpose. i even put in an extra sentence for extra reading comprehension:

SPENCER MICHELS: He gained an ally by speaking Farsi to the senior resident engineer who turned out to be a fellow Iranian-American. And he persuaded the operator of an elevated work platform to take him right up next to the damaged stub of the freeway, where he could photograph and take samples of the burned steel. He says his trained eye can figure out some details, like temperatures during the fire, on the spot.
ABOLHASSAN ASTANEH: Here, it most likely reached about 1,000 to 1,500 degrees. And that is enough to collapse them, so they collapsed. So the word "melting" should not be used for girders, because there was no melting of girders. I saw melting of girders in World Trade Center.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/science/jan-june07/overpass_05-10.html

he goes to say that the steel at the overpass did not "melt" because temps only got 1000-1500 degrees. then he says that he saw "melting of girders in the wtc." he is speaking about metal that had already cooled just like the steel at the overpass site in california.
 
Parts 14 and 15 of my YouTube Gage Rebuttal series is now posted! Building 7 fires were BIG (see part 14). The whole Path of Least Resistance argument is investigated in part 15. Here are your links:

part 14 Size of Building 7 fires http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJUDQVqbMto
part 15 Path of Leasrt Resistance Building 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvZ_3JVjHeo

Chris, in Part 15 in point 195 you state that WT7 was squat and that it was wider than it was tall. This is incorrect. It clearly was taller than it was wide or deep.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center
 
i believe this was from an ae911truth presentation. this might be what your looking for:
[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_285444e1f9c81a853c.jpg[/qimg]

remember what the professor said:

ABOLHASSAN ASTANEH: Here, it most likely reached about 1,000 to 1,500 degrees. And that is enough to collapse them, so they collapsed. So the word "melting" should not be used for girders, because there was no melting of girders. I saw melting of girders in World Trade Center.

why dont ya interview Professor Astaneh. He even sent steel samples to one of his fellow professors at Berkeley. Are ya interested in what those samples showed? I am. He hasnt released the data yet??

You.
 
good, keep me on ignore b/c i know that you are a hard head and not getting it on purpose. i even put in an extra sentence for extra reading comprehension:

SPENCER MICHELS: He gained an ally by speaking Farsi to the senior resident engineer who turned out to be a fellow Iranian-American. And he persuaded the operator of an elevated work platform to take him right up next to the damaged stub of the freeway, where he could photograph and take samples of the burned steel. He says his trained eye can figure out some details, like temperatures during the fire, on the spot.[/B]
ABOLHASSAN ASTANEH: Here, it most likely reached about 1,000 to 1,500 degrees. And that is enough to collapse them, so they collapsed. So the word "melting" should not be used for girders, because there was no melting of girders. I saw melting of girders in World Trade Center.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/science/jan-june07/overpass_05-10.html

he goes to say that the steel at the overpass did not "melt" because temps only got 1000-1500 degrees. then he says that he saw "melting of girders in the wtc." he is speaking about metal that had already cooled just like the steel at the overpass site in california.


Is his eyeball calibrated in Fahrenheit or Celsius?
 
Yes, we know, Dave. None of these buildings plummeted to the ground. They were demolished. Do you know what the difference is?

WTC3, Marriott Hotel, had a vast circular chunk missing from its middle after WTC2 collapsed. It did not collapse. Major structural damage, and fires. Why didn't WTC 3 progressively collapse??


Well apart from it being a hotel with lots of small rooms not an office building with large open span offices, and it being 22 floors not 48 or 100plus, and it not burning for 7 hours and finally it being totally destroyed only a few minutes later when the second tower came down.......

Personal story....My Family and I were booked to stay in it a couple of weeks after 911...we had chosen it because it was right beside the WTC towers which was top on our tourist itinerary........ we ended up staying in the one on Times square, about the only guests other than all the first responders who came to help search the rubble.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriott_World_Trade_Center

Ergo if you can't get the simple stuff right..............:rolleyes:
 
Unlikely, but he probably CARES about his fellow man. Unlike you.
I have helped hundreds of grieving families through the heart-wrenching process of preparing a funeral for a loved one. Dylan Avery engaged in vigilante investigating, invading the privacy of a family at an extremely difficult time. I take seriously Barry Jennings's testimony and have watched it several times, thank you. To whoever hasn't done so, please watch my video now so you can see what I mean.
 
.. As a guy who has helped hundreds of grieving families go through the wrenching process of preparing funerals or memorial services, I got really upset when I heard about Dylan Avery hiring a private investigator ...

:eye-poppi

OK, now I see where you get your somewhat sombre style from :D

Perhaps it is fitting that you would prepare truthers for the demise of their pernicious mythology.

Can I ask for a bit more detail about your profession and the place where you made the videos? It looks like it might be a chapel or church. Sorry if I'm being too nosey, but it's a lot more interesting than trying to enlighten Ergo on the difference between 'into' and 'onto'. :cool:
 
Just watching the eyewitness video now, Chris.

You may be aware that I made a Jennings/Hess video which attempts to clarify the timeline for their experiences. I've since found a few other interesting things.

One point worth mentioning is that Hess used the word 'explosion' in his first interview shortly after the collapse, then later clarified that it was an earthquake-like event. He seems to have inadvertently added fuel to the conspiracist's fire with his choice of words. Of course most of us realize that the word 'explosion' does not necessarily refer to 'high explosive charge', but that doesn't stop truthers from insisting it does!

Second relevant point to Jennings' testimony - he claims he saw one of the towers standing when he looked out the window. However, recently released footage of WTC 7 shows Michael Hess calling out of the broken window to rescuers. The window is on the North face of the building, which means they could not see the towers (nevermind the smoke and dust swirling around) from that window.

In my opinion Jennings was confused, and incorrect.

Third, someone posting as Barry Jennings son claimed that he had died of Leukemia. The information, AFAIK is accurate - Jennings did have a brother, Larry, who apparently predeceased him. And the person who wrote this has other info which would be known only to those from Jennings family or close to them.
Here is the transcript with links:

Barry Jennings August 19, 2008

i guess my father really was a hero huh? i will admit,watching him die at 53 the day after my birthdaay in stony brook hospital from leukemia wasn’t the highlight of my life,but at least i know that his death isn’t strange at all,his twin brother,my uncle larry,died a few months b4 i was born in 1989,my father is his identical twin,he was bound to get it,i know the government didn’t do that,this was years b4 9/11 like 12 years,and i will also say losing my father at 19 wasn’t my plan,and also as screwed up as our government may be,at least i can say that they didn’t kill my father because i wathced him die bursting into tears,and even though his job is reluctant to say he’s dead becuz conspiracy thoeries will arise if they said it,they have risen anyway and i still hurt evrytime someone says the government killed him,i want to smack them becuz it is insulting to me becuz out of the 4 kids he has im the only one who saw him die,and im 2nd youngest. you people dont have to believe young 19 year oldd me but if anyone got questions,i aam willing to answer them as long as you acknowledge what i say to be the truth. futrher more,anyone wants to know about the 9/11 conspiracy he was saying,i will give you unadulterated truths about what happened to him jsut as he told it to me and my siblings when he was twelve and at the expense of being hunted down,i will tell you that im speaking the truth. you all wonder why his death is strange? because out of the members in my family,im the only one with the time,resources and energy to speak up. noone is listening to me. i am even able to provide you with death certificate info and an obituary. im tired of speaking. it has been 4 months i have been speaking up. this is my final atttempt. yall can believe what u want to. if u reply to this,i will be notified by email so any questions can and will be answered

http://wecanchangetheworld.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/wtc-7-survivor-barry-jennings-dead/

August 18, 1989 birthdate


http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=14697&st=40&p=10789495&#entry10789495
 
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