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Michelle Bachmann could be our next president.

Tricky said:
Boy, Tom sure does seem to have problems with Republicans borrowing his songs. I think he had to file a restraining order against GW Bush to keep him from using "I Won't Back Down" as a campaign song.
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I don't think you have to have that much of a problem to not want a song of yours used to support any cause you wouldn't endorse. Seems like an obvious reaction.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
I don't think you have to have that much of a problem to not want a song of yours used to support any cause you wouldn't endorse. Seems like an obvious reaction.
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I think tricky was saying (he can correct me if I'm wrong) that Petty has now twice had to call out a Republican for using one of his songs. Other artists (such as Mellencamp and Springsteen) have only had to do it once. He's not saying the problem is Petty calling out Republicans for using his song, he's saying the problem is Republicans have now used his songs without his permission twice.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
There you go with facts again.

the thing is, people THINK it's about a suicide.
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From Brainster's link:
As the legend goes, Gainesville-born Petty wrote it about a University of Florida coed who jumped to her death from the Beatty Towers dorm. One variation has the unnamed girl tripping on hallucinogens and attempting to fly. I prefer the version in which the coed is lucid, voluntarily shedding her mortal coil and filled with the invigoration suicides are said to have once they make the decision....

...It’s not that I want some girl to be dead. I’m just a sucker for good Southern ghost story, which with or without a suicide, “American Girl” remains.
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Snopes weighs in including the lyrics (They don't like to be copy/pasted). See the link for Petty's comments the song was inspired by the freeway that sounded like the ocean. He notes what the song is not about, but doesn't really say what it is about.




Ghost story vs 'real' or historical suicide vs something else, while it isn't clear whether the girl on the balcony who has a painful memory acts on her pain, it still isn't about the kind of "American Girl" Bachman would have had in mind.
 
Brainster said:
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Bachmann's husband took Medicaid patients? What was he supposed to do, turn them away?

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So when the Medicaid funded mental health care is abolished under Repub policies, do you suppose they will offer free services to the poor or turn them away?
 
Ladewig said:
Thanks for teaching me how the game is played.
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What game is that? The "tangential comment" game?

The next time I am in a JREF thread in which a Democrat's faults are being discussed, I'll be sure to ask "Why do so many high ranking Republican men want to touch other men's ***** ?"
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I don't care what you say about anyone, wherever it may tangentially arise, just don't be too homophobic now, mmkay?

Say what you will.
 
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Brainster said:
So it seems obvious that Bachmann must have heard about John Wayne's parents living in Waterloo when she was a kid, and mistakenly formed the impression that Wayne himself was from there. It's a mistake, but an understandable one.
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Even if that's true, it still speaks poorly of a person with aspirations to the highest office in the land that she doesn't spend the thirty seconds it would take to Google her "impressions" before shooting her mouth off. Or ask an artist before borrowing their song. Yes it's true, everybody makes mistakes, but when mistakes are easily avoidable, you don't get cut as much slack as someone who merely fumbles a few words.
 
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Brainster said:
So it seems obvious that Bachmann must have heard about John Wayne's parents living in Waterloo when she was a kid, and mistakenly formed the impression that Wayne himself was from there. It's a mistake, but an understandable one.
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YEa, some one like her - is just who I want in charge of such trivial details as nuclear bombs. What is as president some one tells her that Georgia has been attacked by the Russians again so she nukes Atlanta. Will you write that of as a "mistake, but an undersandable one" too?
 
bikerdruid said:
so why is it that the repugnians are unable to come up with a reasonable, viable, and intelligent candidate?
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I think it's because they know they will lose in 2012. Just give up the sacrificial lamb, focus on Congress and 2016.
 
Tricky said:
Even if that's true, it still speaks poorly of a person with aspirations to the highest office in the land that she doesn't spend the thirty seconds it would take to Google her "impressions" before shooting her mouth off. Or ask an artist before borrowing their song. Yes it's true, everybody makes mistakes, but when mistakes are easily avoidable, you don't get cut as much slack as someone who merely fumbles a few words.
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It's not the quality of her errors that is relevant here, it's the incredible quantity of them.
 
Spindrift said:
Military service in wartime, if not any time, trumps any employment contract. He could have joined if he really wanted to. Here's more on it:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1055/was-john-wayne-a-draft-dodger
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Thanks.

Even before I was set straight on the real dope, I cringed every time I heard Mr. Wayne referred to as a "real American hero." Now, I see that title as even more repugnant.

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JudeBrando said:
What game is that? The "tangential comment" game?
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What game is what? I have no idea what you are talking about. I am not playing a game, I am just asking questions. I love my country.
♫ Oh Beautiful for spacious skies for amber waves of grain.

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I do not think Michelle Bachmann is the right person to serve as president of the United States. Nor as vice-president of the United States.

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bikerdruid said:
so why is it that the repugnians are unable to come up with a reasonable, viable, and intelligent candidate?
could it be that there are no reasonable, viable, and intelligent repugnians?
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Could it be that there are reasonable, viable, and intelligent Republicans [stop with the name calling] that do not want to participate in this presidential race?
 
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Ladewig said:
Could it be that there are reasonable, viable, and intelligent Republicans [stop with the name calling] that do not want to participate in this presidential race?
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I think most of them realize that with the TP dominating the rhetoric, it is best to wait for them to burn themselves out, then to try to run in such a toxic environment.

ETA: My Governor, Mitch Daniels, is a prime example. He used his family as a convenient excuse not to run, but as a moderate Republican, I suspect he is just waiting for a better time to run and does not want a failed attempt on his record when he does.
 
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EventHorizon said:
No way. Sarah Palin is a MILF. I'd do things to her that are illegal in half the states in the union. This woman? Nah.
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About Sarah, I agree about the sexiness (Bachmann not too much)... but vote for either as POTUS? No way!!! I'd sooner vote for Lisa Ann, the chick who played Palin in some adult videos.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Crazy is subjective. Perhaps you think Obama's sanity ship is sailing true but from where I sit it's on fire, listing heavily, and I'm pretty sure I see an iceberg right in its path.
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Of course it was listing badly when he took command, and the previous captain was looking for the XO, who was hiding in an undisclosed compartment...well, after he shot his boatswain ;)
 
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I'm not sure who in this GOP field I would be comfortable voting for, but unfortunately for feminism...or maybe fortunately...it's certainly neither Palin or Bachmann, who are simply attractive populist teaparty-ish mooks, in my humble opinion.
 
cwalner said:
I think most of them realize that with the TP dominating the rhetoric, it is best to wait for them to burn themselves out, then to try to run in such a toxic environment.

ETA: My Governor, Mitch Daniels, is a prime example. He used his family as a convenient excuse not to run, but as a moderate Republican, I suspect he is just waiting for a better time to run and does not want a failed attempt on his record when he does.
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I'd have to agree. There seems to be no room in the GOP for any sort of moderate voice. Some may say that is true of the Democrats as well, but they certainly seem to accept moderate/centrist views far more than the GOP at this time.

I'm sick of the polarization TO THE BONE!!!:boggled:
 
Magyar said:
YEa, some one like her - is just who I want in charge of such trivial details as nuclear bombs. What is as president some one tells her that Georgia has been attacked by the Russians again so she nukes Atlanta. Will you write that of as a "mistake, but an undersandable one" too?
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I don't want her to be the Republican nominee. And the Democrats elected somebody who thought there were 57 states.
 
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