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edit: nvm, reading comprehension is nonexistent before I have my morning coffee.
 
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000063 said:
I'm pretty sure water only separates into Hydrogen/Oxygen in extremely hot fires.
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The first commercial production of hydrogen as a pure gas involved passing live steam over bare steel plates. Produces rust on the steel and the release of elemental hydrogen.
 
Travis said:
Anything energetic enough to sever steel columns would burn off way before 99 days pass.
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I have to call you on that one, Travis. The office contents fire was, in effect, energetic enough to sever the steel columns (with a little help from gravity and mass), and didn't burn off way before 99 days passed.

Dave
 
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So you think that was the only water available?
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Chris, I asked you to tell us how much water was available between the first plane's impact and WTC7's collapse, and how much would be "enough". You keep going on about a million gallons in 3 days being "clearly enough", yet you refuse to say how much "enough" was, even vaguely.

I think it was Lefty or TFC who asked you to calculate how much water would be needed for firefighting on the several buildings the FDNY was concerned with, and several people have pointed out that there was no need to fight a fire in an empty building when there were actual people buried in rubble who needed help.
 
To determine if there is a conspiracy you need to establish the motivation and benefits to all of the participants. A lot of information of the official story is based on a certain viewpoint and is not supported by facts.

Do we have video of all the events described by the official story? Then saying that the official story is ironclad is not true.

Focusing entirely on what happened after the airliners hit will only give you part of the information you need.

That part being

If it was a real investigation they would have recovered 60% to 80% of the affected floors STEEL.

The only recoverable concrete would have been wrapped in steel. They kept less than 1% of the affected floors steel!

At this point we have a horrible screwed up investigation that points to intentional destruction of evidence. The reports I believe were meant to be worthless. By itself it is not damning, but in context with the other events leading up to 9-11 it looks much worse.
 
Do we have video of all the events described by the official story? Then saying that the official story is ironclad is not true.
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Uh, actually we do.
Focusing entirely on what happened after the airliners hit will only give you part of the information you need.
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Agreed. It will only give us the part that explains everything.

If it was a real investigation they would have recovered 60% to 80% of the affected floors STEEL.
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you base this on what?

They kept less than 1% of the affected floors steel!
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Source?
 
At every step we seem to have made stupid mistakes that allowed the Hijackers to succeed.

The people who caused these seemingly stupid things, over and over, kept getting promoted.

If you intentionally appoint incompetents who you know are going to screw things up, then what are you?
 
Hey C7, welcome back.

Now, did you have time to study the standpipe systems and what would have been a very major monkeywrench in your bull **** theory?
 
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At every step we seem to have made stupid mistakes that allowed the Hijackers to succeed.

The people who caused these seemingly stupid things, over and over, kept getting promoted.

If you intentionally appoint incompetents who you know are going to screw things up, then what are you?
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a politician.

duh.
 
DeathDart said:
At every step we seem to have made stupid mistakes that allowed the Hijackers to succeed.

The people who caused these seemingly stupid things, over and over, kept getting promoted.

If you intentionally appoint incompetents who you know are going to screw things up, then what are you?
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Names?
 
When Michael Hayden shut down the system that was tracking some of the terrorists was he fired?
 
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