Where's FamilyRadio.com today?

I guess it's tough for him, because now he might have to face the reality that he'll die a normal death like everybody else.

The weekend wasn't quite so tough for all the non-believers who went on living as usual. What a despicable human being, who finds it "tough" that the world wasn't systematically destroyed by earthquakes timezone by timezone. I don't have any tears to cry for Harold, that his imaginary enemies have been left unsmited by his supernatural bully.
 
AdMan said:
Here are a couple other sites that haven't been updated yet:

http://www.wecanknow.com/
http://www.bmius.org/

You can also follow those on Twitter but I doubt they'll be doing much tweeting soon... :D
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The wecanknow.com core explanatory document (linked at the bottom of their home page), is no longer linked.
http://www.the-latter-rain.com/can-we-know-when.html

I read this last week before it disappeared. They actually had some mitigating text in there, talking about the May 21 date as the 'most likely' date.

However, http://www.the-latter-rain.com/ itself has been updated with their own thoughts for the fail.
 
Thanks for the link Denver.

I have one big question for the guy who wrote that article though...

"Has this caused you to lose your faith in the Bible?"
Absolutely not. The Bible is the infallible Word of God. When we teach something and say, "This is what the Bible says," and that something is not Biblical truth, then we have done a horrible thing by teaching a falsehood. We need to acknowledge that and seek correction in the Bible. However, although man's interpretation can be in error, the trustworthiness of God's Word will always remain completely intact.
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Let's make the massively biased assumption that the Bible is the infallible Word of God for a minute...

Obviously your interpretation of the Bible is wrong, based on that whole rapture thing. What then is the difference between knowing the wrong message and not knowing the message at all... or even not having a message in the first place?
 
RobDegraves said:
Let's make the massively biased assumption that the Bible is the infallible Word of God for a minute...

Obviously your interpretation of the Bible is wrong, based on that whole rapture thing. What then is the difference between knowing the wrong message and not knowing the message at all... or even not having a message in the first place?
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I thought the same thing. Even if the Bible were infallible, it is up to fallible humans to interpret it, so who's to say that our understanding of any of it is right?
 
Denver said:
However, http://www.the-latter-rain.com/ itself has been updated with their own thoughts for the fail.
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Interesting bullet point there:

"Has this caused you to lose your faith in the Bible?"

Absolutely not. The Bible is the infallible Word of God. When we teach something and say, "This is what the Bible says," and that something is not Biblical truth, then we have done a horrible thing by teaching a falsehood. We need to acknowledge that and seek correction in the Bible. However, although man's interpretation can be in error, the trustworthiness of God's Word will always remain completely intact.
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Well, then. The Bible is what led us to this erroneous conclusion that we believed with all our heart, and then we were wrong.

So obviously, the Bible was right and we were wrong.

Makes perfect sense, it does. :confused:
 
caniswalensis said:
He was already kind of alibing himself months ago.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20110103/us-rel-apocalypse-soon/

""If May 21 passes and I'm still here, that means I wasn't saved. Does that mean God's word is inaccurate or untrue? Not at all," Warden said."

If he did truely believe what he was preaching, I can see how still being here would shake him up pretty good.
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Thats interesting to consider. For someone who truly believes the rapture did happen... what now? Thats pretty much the end of the religion, right? The chosen are lifted up to heaven, the rest are left to torment. The end. There is no second chance at redemption for those those left behind, is there?
 
madurobob said:
Thats interesting to consider. For someone who truly believes the rapture did happen... what now? Thats pretty much the end of the religion, right? The chosen are lifted up to heaven, the rest are left to torment. The end. There is no second chance at redemption for those those left behind, is there?
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Well that depends really....


Do they have any money to donate?:D
 
madurobob said:
Thats interesting to consider. For someone who truly believes the rapture did happen... what now? Thats pretty much the end of the religion, right? The chosen are lifted up to heaven, the rest are left to torment. The end. There is no second chance at redemption for those those left behind, is there?
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I'm of the mind that with a real demonstration of a religious idea, those of us left behind might just change our minds.
Wouldn't do any donating though.
 
madurobob said:
Thats interesting to consider. For someone who truly believes the rapture did happen... what now? Thats pretty much the end of the religion, right? The chosen are lifted up to heaven, the rest are left to torment. The end. There is no second chance at redemption for those those left behind, is there?
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There are sects that preach you can still be saved after the rapture.

I have heard it both ways, though.

I think the way you state it is the most commonly held belief.
 
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I thought the same thing. Even if the Bible were infallible, it is up to fallible humans to interpret it, so who's to say that our understanding of any of it is right?
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I think it's funny that fundies deride the Catholic church because it teaches that the Church is the final authority on how the Bible should be interpreted, while fundies allow each person to come to his own understanding of the meaning.

For some reason, no one sees it as a problem that each person has a slightly different interpretation...
 
madurobob said:
Thats interesting to consider. For someone who truly believes the rapture did happen... what now? Thats pretty much the end of the religion, right? The chosen are lifted up to heaven, the rest are left to torment. The end. There is no second chance at redemption for those those left behind, is there?
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But it should be fairly obvious that nobody got saved, right? I mean, not a lot of the believers have gone missing, have they?
 
But, if there can be more than one rapture, why not three.. four... dozens... why not infinite raptures? Then you're back to a lifetime of chances for everyone, and back to a personal, individual salvation. Rapture becomes meaningless.

Well, as if it could have been any more meaningless...
 
aggle-rithm said:
I think it's funny that fundies deride the Catholic church because it teaches that the Church is the final authority on how the Bible should be interpreted, while fundies allow each person to come to his own understanding of the meaning.

For some reason, no one sees it as a problem that each person has a slightly different interpretation...
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Well, it's always the other guy's interpretation that's obviously, patently ridiculous.

Ad nauseum
 
The prediction wasn't just that the believers would be raptured on May 21st, but that a seried of earthquakes would happen all over the world, with escalating pandemonium until the earth was completely annihilated on October 21st.

I don't see how any of the true believers can feel shaken up that they were left behind, because absolutely nothing happened that they predicted. Nobody was raptured up to heaven and the tribulation hasn't started.

It's a pretty sad waste of a life, if you ask me. But I'm equally saddened by some of the commenters on the post-rapture blogs etc. where they say, "Duh, Camping was a false prophet because the bible says no one can predict the day or hour. So the rapture's totally going to happen, but only God knows when that will be. But we're obviously in the end times...." It just seems like a weird hobby to think about things like that in the belief that they're real. I'm all for imagination and living in fantasy worlds and RPGs, but something is short-circuiting if you think any of it is happening outside your own head.
 
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