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Are most homosexuals atheists?

ApolloGnomon said:
This much is obvious, just by your asking the question.


I've known gays and lesbians who were:
-Catholic
-Methodist
-Buddhist
-Atheist
-New-Age hippy-dippy "wiccan"
-Jewish
-nothing in particular

by far the most UNHAPPY homosexuals I've known were the ones who grew up convinced that God hated them. The happiest were the ones who could reconcile their predispositions with their belief systems.
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So the happiest ones are the ones who conveniently ignore the fact that their religion is actually completely against their lifestyle? Makes sense I guess.
 
Okay, I really didn't wanna say this but... this thread is like... sooooooo gay.
 
Quad4_72 said:
This is true. But what I am referring to is a very large social issue that is specifically addressed in the bible as being an abomination. Something that is specifically addressed as not being allowed in the kingdom of heaven. I have a feeling that you already knew what I was talking about though...
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It is as large a social issue as you want to make it.

Another thing the Bible calls an "abomination" with the exact same word in Hebrew: The charging of interest. I would argue that this is an even larger and more far-reaching social issue, what with the way the economy works.

Anyone who has money in a bank account is as abominable as someone having gay sex. Yet nobody makes a fuss of it - why is that?
 
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Quad4_72 said:
What's strange about Iraq, is having sex with other males is not uncommon. It is seen as just something you do with a guy who is your close friend. Being full blown homosexual is probably a good way to get killed though.
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*nods* There's even two different words for gay men over there. Ehh... one term for the "pitcher" and another for the "catcher". The term for the "catcher" is also a really really bad insult.
 
Quad4_72 said:
So the happiest ones are the ones who conveniently ignore the fact that their religion is actually completely against their lifestyle? Makes sense I guess.
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i think most non fundamentalist people are cherry picking together their own religions. In Europe you see that pretty often, they just make their own individual religions this way and do not care much what the bible or priests say if they go to churches at all. i guess homosexuals tend even more to do that.
 
Here's a study I found:

One of the most basic beliefs has to do with one’s understanding of God. This proved to be one of the biggest differences noted in the study. While seven out of every ten heterosexuals (71%) have an orthodox, biblical perception of God, just 43% of homosexuals do. In fact, an equal percentage possesses a pantheistic view about deity – i.e., that “God” refers to any of a variety of perspectives, such as personally achieving a state of higher consciousness or maximized personal potential, or that there are multiple gods that exist, or even that everyone is god.
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Linky.

To be honest, religious liberals kind of annoy me. I mean, I much prefer them to fundamentalists in a utilitarian sense, but I feel that they are displaying an intellectual cowardice. Either that, or they go completely woo in the New Age direction.
 
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Tsukasa Buddha said:
Here's a study I found:



Linky.

To be honest, religious liberals kind of annoy me. I mean, I much prefer them to fundamentalists in a utilitarian sense, but I feel that they are displaying an intellectual cowardice. Either that, or they go completely woo in the New Age direction.
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Agreed. Interesting study too. It's funny how people will make the bible say what they want it to say.


Yeah, that's definitely a logic error there. Since you by definition would not have noticed the non-flamers, you can't even anecdotally compare the two populations.
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Perhaps. It did seem quite telling though that in a gay environment all of them were pretty feminine. And by all of them, I mean all of the people that were in attendance.
 
I have a whole contingent of gay acquaintances who identify as hedonistic satanists. The rest of the lot is mostly the usual mildly observant pot of popular religions.
If I can find the time to be bothered, I'll check all of my friends facebook pagess and log their religious identities.
 
Quad4_72 said:
In what way does your question relate to the question I posed in the OP?
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Both imply a connection between one's level of belief and their degree of sexual deviance. This fallacy is known as "Poisoning the Well", in which adverse information about a target is pre-emptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing everything that the target person is about to say, thus giving the person presenting the fallacy just cause to ridicule anyone with an opposite viewpoint.
 
Well, christians believe their religion is true. In that case, a homosexual that believes it is true can't simply say it is not. That would be like me (Athiest) saying something generally accepted as true is false merely because it is not beneficial to me.
 
Mister Earl said:
There's enough. And thanks to the christian bible, there's more of us every year.
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Really? Hmm. I thought that the interpretation of the Bible works differently for the atheists than for some of the boy-molesting priests. Now I see that there must be some passages in there, which inspire the atheists the same way to become homosexuals.

I think the some of the theists and all atheists should be ordered to attend Sunday school, otherwise homosexuality could evolve into zoophilia:

He said to his servants, “Stay here with the donkey while I and the boy go over there. We will worship and then we will come back to you.”
Genesis 22:5
 
Quad4_72 said:
I couldn't tell ya. Seems pretty retarded to me too. They also enjoy sex with donkeys as well, so there ya go (Not all of them obviously but it is much mroe prevalent then you would think).
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Sounds like a heap of BS to me my man. Me thinks you are trying to paint a picture, but you got the colors all wrong. People are the same everywhere.
 
epix said:
Really? Hmm. I thought that the interpretation of the Bible works differently for the atheists than for some of the boy-molesting priests. Now I see that there must be some passages in there, which inspire the atheists the same way to become homosexuals.

I think the some of the theists and all atheists should be ordered to attend Sunday school, otherwise homosexuality could evolve into zoophilia:

He said to his servants, “Stay here with the donkey while I and the boy go over there. We will worship and then we will come back to you.”
Genesis 22:5
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I see, Epix wants to ban the bible because he thinks it leads to zoophilia, and he wants to remove it from Sunday school.
 
Quad4_72 said:
That's quite a stretch of an interpretation.
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No not really. You need to consider how long ago it was written and how many times its been translated. Finding a Foreign Body in your soup means something that shouldn't normally be there.

Infact, I'd be surprised if they even used the word Foreign to describe someone from another country:
Back 700 years ago a chamber foreign was an outhouse, a smelly place where you went to answer the call of nature.

People living those centuries ago didn’t call a privy a chamber foreign because they thought foreigners were smelly and disgusting, but because the word foreign had recently emerged from French where it had earlier arrived from Latin.

Back in Latin the parent word foranus had meant “outside” so the “out” “house” meaning was quite literal.
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http://podictionary.com/foreign-podictionary-1010/
 
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