Merged Interesting Analysis of Changing Media Attitudes toward 9/11 Alternative Theories

atavisms said:
Omg many (most on this thread) of you kids just make me laugh. ...
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OMG, you must be an old person who failed to go to college and gain a degree in Engineering so you are easily fooled by idiots on the Internet spewing lies and delusions about 911. I am a kid with a degree in engineering from 1974 and a masters in the same in 1981. Kids who are not gullible like you.

atavisms said:
You think it is anti-American to pursue truth and justice. You need to go to school and a learn a little history first. and Insulting and calling people names does Not make your argument any more convincing.
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Is it anti-American to apologize for terrorists due to ignorance; why do you do it?

atavisms said:
Who can argue there are issues with 9/11? Unanswered questions, unprecedented anomalies, actions and events (a mountain of troubling facts literally) No one.
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Only to the uneducated like yourself who like delusions and fantasy.

atavisms said:
And the media? golly gee willagers, most American citizens dont know about wtc7 - that should trouble all of you. So we should all be on the same side. the side of truth and justice. We should all want and informed electorate. But we are not getting the truth from the corporate media, not even close.
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WTC7 burned all day and fell down, you must look up fire and learn why steel fails in fire. Good luck.

atavisms said:
If it was gravity and fire that destroyed the towers in 56 & 102 minutes and blew them to smithereens in 15 or 20 or however many seconds they each took to come down, completely eradiucating any trace of over 100 individuals, then that is the truth we should all be after. but it has not even been investigated (unless you consider NIST's taking us to the 'collapse initiation' explains what happened next)
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If 911 truth could grasp physics or structural engineering 911 truth would not be failing to understand the collapse.


atavisms said:
If it was also fire and gravity that caused such a flawless and symmetrical implosion of the 47 story Solomon Bros building, then we should all want to be sure of that as well.
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It was not symmetrical, but in the minds of 911 truth who are uneducated and delusional. Are you joining the liars in 911 truth?

atavisms said:
These events were not properly investigated, structural steel destroyed, and we got three different from the military. No one was held accountable, hell, top people got good promotions. (lol,, just for afew things off the top of me head)
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The events were investigated and you can't comprehend that, or the reports. lol all you want, you lack knowledge and evidence to support your failed ideas.

atavisms said:
lol. so please. You can shout at a wall all day, call people names, or keep your head buried in the sand but until you espouse and embody the principles of reason and impartiality you will always be just a cheerleader at best or a 'shill' that unwittingly helps to protect mass murderers at worst. There is only one 'side' in any quest for truth.
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19 terrorists did 911; you missed it.

atavisms said:
You need to imagine it was your daughter or your mom or whomever you love, and stop attacking the very people who are on your side. This has nothing to do with 'conspiracy theories' or 'big foot' this has to do with mass murder and apparently, (as there had to have been explosives in the towers) unprecedented treason.
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19 terrorists did it; why are you unable to comprehend the facts and evidence. Oh, right, you deny all the evidence.

atavisms said:
Justice will only exist where those not affected by injustice are filled with the same amount of indignation as those offended. Plato
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911 truth usually quotes some great stuff and it is irony to infinity as 911 truth lacks a single shred of evidence or logic. Sad.

atavisms said:
PS - Harrit ets. paper might have some problems, but the finding of mass amounts of hightech 'advance engineered' aluminothermic pyrotechnics in the form of those red/gray chips, is conclusive.
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Yes, it is fake, wrong, stupid and fooled you. The chips are not nano-thermite unless they were planted and then Jones and company messed it up and failed to get the proper energy. LOL, what a bunch of idiots; notice the world of science is not supporting the paper they had to pay to publish.


atavisms said:
That means the explosives could have been applied as paint, or ceiling tiles, have completely wireless ignition systems. etc.
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Ceiling tiles!? That is pure insanity! Wireless ignition systems? LOL, pure stupidity. You can't even specify the amount needed to do what you say happened; you can't even define what happen in your delusional version of 911.

atavisms said:
You can deny, pretend ('bury your head in the hand while you shake your fist in the air') but the facts are clear and the implications of the findings, unambiguous as well.
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You can remain in ignorance or try to gain knowledge; it will be self-critiquing.

I am a kid, and can't believe you can't do as good as kid who wasted his life flying heavy jets and playing engineer when he could. You old people who are gullible make me cry, not laugh. Do you go see movies for your fantasy, or is your delusional 911 idiotic idea world of fantasy enough?
 
Dare I ask atavism for his detailed version of the events of 9/11? I have never recieved an answer to that question from any of our resident truthers,I wonder why that is?
 
The Beginning of the End - The Media Response to the Growing Influence of the 9/11 Tr

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=17624&context=va

The clock is ticking.

Summary and Concluding Observations
1. In the past year, in response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 attacks, nine corporate, seven public, and two independent media outlets aired examinations of the issue, which were all – with the exception of the National Geographic special – reasonably objective, examining the issue as a legitimate scientific controversy worthy of debate (not as "conspiracy theorists" vs. science and common sense).

2. Eight countries – Britain, Canada, Denmark, France, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, and Russia – have allowed their publicly-owned broadcasting stations to air the full spectrum of evidence challenging the truth of the official account of 9/11.

3. These developments may reflect a relaxation in the international media following the change in the US and British leaderships.

4. These developments definitely reflect, in any case, the fact that scientists in the 9/11 Truth Movement have recently succeeded in getting papers, such as the nano-thermite paper, published in peer-reviewed journals.

5. These developments surely also reflect the general professionalism of the 9/11 Truth Movement, as exemplified by the emergence of not only Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth but also Firefighters, Intelligence Officers, Lawyers, Medical Professionals, Pilots, Political Leaders, Religious Leaders, Scholars, and Veterans for 9/11 Truth.

6. These developments seem to reflect, moreover, an increased recognition of the importance of the 9/11 Truth Movement, which is demonstrated by two honors given to its most influential member, Dr. David Ray Griffin, that would have been unthinkable only a few years ago: the choice by Publishers Weekly of one of his books as a "Pick of the Week," and his inclusion in the New Statesman's list of the most important people in the world today.
This more open approach taken in the international media – I could also have included the Japanese media – might be a sign that worldwide public and corporate media organizations are positioning themselves, and preparing their audiences, for a possible revelation of the truth of the claim that forces within the US government were complicit in the attacks – a revelation that would call into question the publicly given rationale for the military operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

The evidence now being explored in the international media may pave the way for the US media to take an in-depth look at the implications of what is now known about 9/11, and to re-examine the country's foreign and domestic policies in the light of this knowledge.

Elizabeth Woodworth is a retired professional health sciences librarian, and a freelance writer. She is the author of two published books and many articles on political and social justice issues.
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October 2006: 16% believe the WTC was brought down in a controlled demolition

August 2007: 4.6% believe WTC was CD'ed

Add "growing" to the growing list of words and phrases ( like "pull", "free fall", "conservation of momentum", etc...) that twoofers don't have a @#$%ing clue about.
 
The Carolina Panthers' owner, Jerry Richardson said we would have a Lombardi in 10 years... he's a billionaire that played for the Colts. It's been 15 years now but this year might be it!
 
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Sword_Of_Truth said:
October 2006: 16% believe the WTC was brought down in a controlled demolition

August 2007: 4.6% believe WTC was CD'ed

Add "growing" to the growing list of words and phrases ( like "pull", "free fall", "conservation of momentum", etc...) that twoofers don't have a @#$%ing clue about.
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2007?:p


Are you waving your arms for a rescue or are you just treading water?
 
Twoofs, not only do they mistake their conspiracy fantasy for reallity, they also mistake their ring of conspiracy websites for the outside world.
 
I can only comment on the BBC documentary ("The Conspiracy Files" which aired on Sunday, 6, July, 2008) as it was the only one of those mentioned above at paragraph 2 that I have seen, but it came down firmly on the side of the debunkers. Elizabeth Woodward fails to mention that.

Truthers have been telling us the clock has been ticking for years - we're still waiting for this so called breakthrough to occur.

That said I think there is ample reason for debunkers to stay vigilant and keep fighting the battle against this 9/11 conspiracy pseudoscience. While it may be hard to convince the fanatics, we need to make sure that the facts are available so that neutrals can make up their own minds.
 
Clayton Moore said:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=17624&context=va

The clock is ticking.
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Don't make ridiculous claims.

The theme of the garbage article you linked is that there may be some aspects of US Government action which could warrant investigation at the level of world politics. That could well be true - I have formed no opinion.

However if you and your truther friends actually believe it why do you keep tying those genuine political concerns to technical lies?

This is one of those technical lies in that media statement:

"A peer-reviewed# paper published in the Open Chemical Physics Journal on April 3, 2009,2 reported that a little known high-tech explosive# called nano-thermite was found# throughout the World Trade Center dust."

At least three lies (marked #) there if not more. What chance do you think you have getting any attention whilst your "movement" tolerates dishonesty every time they attempt to make a high profile statement?

Coming to forums like this and telling lies serves as a mild form of amusement but it won't survive in the hard arena of world politics.
 
Steve Oliver said:
Truthers have been telling us the clock has been ticking for years - we're still waiting for this so called breakthrough to occur.
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Yes, the dam is always "breaking", success is always just around the corner, the tipping point is always just within sight... I remember this being said when Griffin wrote The New Pearl Harbor, when Jones first appeared, when AK Dewdney wrote his phone calls from altitude paper, when some Hollywood figure offered sort-of support (James Brolin and David Lynch), and on, and on, and on it goes.
 
Clayton Moore said:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=17624&context=va

The clock is ticking.
scientists in the 9/11 Truth Movement have recently succeeded in getting papers, such as the nano-thermite paper, published in peer-reviewed journals.
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This absolutely did not happen. There has never been any peer-reviewed papers by twoofers questioning the standard accepted version of what caused the twin towers collapse.

Such a glaring error and lack of familiarity with the subject matter casts serious doubt on the authors conclusions and abilities.
 
I've watched those three buildings fall more times than I can count.

And each time it doesn't look like a controlled demolition to me.
 
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