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Do gods wonder where they come from?

punshhh said:
I was telling Dylan2001 what he was in for if he was not careful. Seems he chose the best strategy and ran.
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Running away makes god proud? I thought martyrs were the heroes of the faith I guess it's the ones who can do the 100 yard dash.
 
dlorde said:
In the wild? Really - where was that then?
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Actually ... on a related note ... when I lived in Costa Rica a few years ago I watched a pack of coatimundi's do just this. They were all so "cute and friendly", coming up to me and some others looking for scraps of food, making their little squeaks. So then we tossed a piece of sandwich at one of them ... and they all turned on each other horrifically to get to that sandwich. Literally, it was a bloody mess ... scalped hides and half severed legs. It was unbelievable.
 
Minarvia said:
Haven't made it to page 3 yet...but shouldn't it be "closed-minded?" Doesn't "close" mean, well...close?

And "closed" means closed as in a closed door as opposed to an open one?

I've always just sort of wondered as I see "close-minded" a lot and it doesn't sound right, somehow. :)
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You're right, it is "closed-minded." But that's something we tend to do, linguistically: foreshorten words because we blend the "d" at the end of the first word into the following word. Iced tea becomes ice tea, iced cream is ice cream, and closed-minded becomes close-minded. None of them are necessarily correct--tea is not ice, is it is iced--but we don't really notice how we change the meaning.

Then again, they could mean close-minded, though. I know people who appear to keep their brains in a separate box they never open, but they do keep the box next to them at all times. :p
 
slingblade said:
You're right, it is "closed-minded." But that's something we tend to do, linguistically: foreshorten words because we blend the "d" at the end of the first word into the following word. Iced tea becomes ice tea, iced cream is ice cream, and closed-minded becomes close-minded. None of them are necessarily correct--tea is not ice, is it is iced--but we don't really notice how we change the meaning.

Then again, they could mean close-minded, though. I know people who appear to keep their brains in a separate box they never open, but they do keep the box next to them at all times. :p
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Whateve. Ya'll must just be trippin.

:p
 
Trent Wray said:
Actually ... on a related note ... when I lived in Costa Rica a few years ago I watched a pack of coatimundi's do just this.
... they all turned on each other horrifically to get to that sandwich. Literally, it was a bloody mess ... scalped hides and half severed legs. It was unbelievable.
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Those coati's are psycho, man - just mad :D

I was just wondering how one gets to see a pack of wild wolves fighting over reindeer - except maybe in a TV documentary...
 
Minarvia said:
Haven't made it to page 3 yet...but shouldn't it be "closed-minded?" Doesn't "close" mean, well...close?

And "closed" means closed as in a closed door as opposed to an open one?

I've always just sort of wondered as I see "close-minded" a lot and it doesn't sound right, somehow. :)
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Both seem to be perfectly acceptable.
 
Wow... that was one way to kill 20 minutes. im just a little concerned on how it went from "do gods wonder where they came from" to english problems, religion bashing, bashing religion bashers, and finnaly wolf packs. though humorus, i never learned a thing from this entire topic...
 
punshhh said:
I've seen a pack of wolves turn on each other to decide who gets the next bite of a reindeer carcase.
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Dylan2001 said:
Wow sorry teach I thought this was America. There's a place for you in Iran somewhere. Gotta go have fun
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You guys are such drama queens aren't you?
 
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SteveHamilton said:
Wow... that was one way to kill 20 minutes. im just a little concerned on how it went from "do gods wonder where they came from" to english problems, religion bashing, bashing religion bashers, and finnaly wolf packs. though humorus, i never learned a thing from this entire topic...
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I have now learned to spell OG! :blush: or is that og? damn:confused:

Funny stuff;)
 
A god might deeply suspect that it's existence is entirely acausal, since the god might know of nothing else that could have created it.

But that wouldn't stop a smart god from wondering if, perchance, there is something else that created it. A smart god would wonder about that. Only a really stupid, unimaginative god would not wonder about that.

But a very smart god would perceive immediately that either it was created by something else, or it's existence is fundamental. And a really smart god would find either possibility intriguing.
 
God should be omniscient, or it is not god in my book. And omniscient being should not wonder about anything. It would be perfectly clear to him where he came from.
 
News Flash: God Not Omniscient!!!

Dr.Sid said:
God should be omniscient, or it is not god in my book. And omniscient being should not wonder about anything. It would be perfectly clear to him where he came from.
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Doesn't this God wonder what you and I will do? He gave us "free will" according to some. It's the classic paradox of omnipotence -- He can do anything, so He built us in such a way that He cannot predict our actions?
 
Mr. Scott said:
Doesn't this God wonder what you and I will do? He gave us "free will" according to some. It's the classic paradox of omnipotence -- He can do anything, so He built us in such a way that He cannot predict our actions?
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An omnipresent God would know what you are going to do from his omnipresence in the future.

Perhaps the whole idea is for there to be a fine line between freewill and determinism.
Each moment you are under the impression that you are free to look left or right. But in reality God is operating the muscles in your eye and it is predestined which way you are going to look. Or can you look the other way?
The distinction may be infinitely subtle, due to Gods omnipotence and omnipresence.

Can there be any other explanation if God is all powerful?
 
If God was all powerful, he could wonder about his origins.
 
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