Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

[Andy_Ross]

So, declare yourself the winner and take your ball home. OK.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

When you remove all impossible theories, the remaining stuff could only be the truth.

You know what the problem with that butchered recitation of Sherlock Holmes is? It implies that the elimination of "all impossible theories" leaves only a single possible theory. That's not necessarily true. It also doesn't mean that you can eliminate alternative theories by simply declaring them impossible.

On top of that, you've previously declared that "nothing is impossible." Are you sure you're even aware of your own stance on reality? You seem to be in conflict with yourself.

 

[Mr. Skinny]

Since there is really no discussion/argument/debate happening in this thread, I think the moderators should close it.

The OP is apparently impervious to facts, doesn't understand the use of simile, metaphor, etc.

It's the internet equivalent of bashing one's head against a brick wall.

Moderators - please end our pain.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Since there is really no discussion/argument/debate happening in this thread, I think the moderators should close it.

The OP is apparently impervious to facts, doesn't understand the use of simile, metaphor, etc.

It's the internet equivalent of bashing one's head against a brick wall.

Moderators - please end our pain.

I second this. Substantive rebuttal had already been provided in the first half of this thread; everything else has just been entertainment. There's no more substance here.

 

[Justin39640]

To be able to make any investigation the first step is being able to make the difference between possible and impossible theories. With such huge attacks like 9/11 and the number of disinformation/confusion making agents, if you are not strong enough to make the difference between possible/not realistic/impossible theories, you are unable to make any investigation.

When you remove all impossible theories, the remaining stuff could only be the truth.

Stuffing Tomahawks into the butts of 767s stands up to this scrutiny while massive fires don't??????

Holy crap dude!

 

[Athyrio]

To all members: As a Muslim researcher...

There's your first problem, right there.

I came here to challenge the most Jewish and official story supporters’ forum.

There's your second problem, right there.

After 40 pages and 1594 posts, it appears that none was able to debunk the main conclusions of my work:

There's your third problem, right there. You must have only read your posts.

And that proves that Muslims are NOT involved in the attack of 9/11/2001.

There's your fourth problem. Even if your preposterous statements about timing of hijack sequences, smaller plane at Pentagon, and conventional explosives were true, how do you conclude the perpetrators were not Muslims? How do you know what the religious/non-religious convictions of these phantoms were?

Now, I feel my work finished.

Finally.

Those arguments do not change the conclusions of my work; but I promise to check them. And I will probably post the conclusions here.

Why? I thought your "work" was finished.

By that, I let you count the number of insults you have told in those posts; everybody deserves his own insults.

You got that right.

I have no more time to waste. I finally leave.

Good. Adiós, MF (my friend)

 

[Sideroxylon]

To all members: As a Muslim researcher, I came here to challenge the most Jewish and official story supporters’ forum. After 40 pages and 1594 posts, it appears that none was able to debunk the main conclusions of my work:

I guess you boldly sustained the slings and arrows of the evil Jews that dominate these forums and you can now ride off into the sunset with your head held high.

- The timeline of the hijacks shows that the hijacks were successive, like one team controlling one plane at a time, starting the next hijack minutes before the precedent impact. Such hijacks could not be made by 4 different teams inside each plane; the team of the next plane can not know the situation of the precedent plane; their action can not be linked to the precedent impact.

This is where you just declare the most likely explanation impossible to clear the way for your convoluted remote control idea. If that is not enough, you have ignored problems put to you like the fact that in the minutes after your alleged hand over took place the planes had to manoeuvre in order to hit their target.

- The plane that hit the Pentagon was not a B757. It was smaller with about 95ft wingspan, which is consistent with a B737-200/300/400.

You haven't even bothered to support this claim in your summary and if we go back in the thread we will find the same.

- The twin towers were demolished by radio controlled conventional explosives placed on key positions accessible from the lifts' shafts. That install of the explosives can be made during two nights of week end.

More of your modus operandi - completely unsupported assertion of an extraordinary claim.

All strong evidences are consistent with these conclusions. And that proves that Muslims are NOT involved in the attack of 9/11/2001.

And this is the motivation, isn't it. Your beautiful religion of peace is being tarnished by the insult of its people being labelled terrorists. This is beyond what you can bear so you construct a comforting narrative complete with a "günah keçisi" (scapegoat), which logically to your mind must be the bogey man to many in the Islamic world - the cunning Jew.

Now, I feel my work finished. In those 1594 posts, there were the following relevant arguments from you:
1- The automatic control system should not be installed in the nose of the plane, but it must be installed in the technical rooms under the cockpit.
2- For the 41 minutes take off delay of UA93, I must also consider the number of landings in Newark airport.

Those arguments do not change the conclusions of my work; but I promise to check them. And I will probably post the conclusions here.

Don't forget to remove the little lie about being a scientist from the slides, as well. I remember there were a couple of others early in the thread that you conceded were wrong but described as trivial.

None of you was able to explain How and Why 4 different teams planned and succeeded to make successive hijacks as explained here up; every hijack beginning only minutes before the impact of the precedent plane. You denied too much, refused to see the succession, ... but never explained.

You didn't offer explanation, just assertion and sweeping denial. Plenty of people raised problems that you hand waved.

By that, I let you count the number of insults you have told in those posts; everybody deserves his own insults.

You got too much difficult in arguing against the truth; you preferred the easy deny and insulting!

I have no more time to waste. I finally leave. You can reach me by personal mail only mehmet at peace911 dot org.

Plenty of people engaged you in depth early in the thread but you either ignored or dismissed what they had to say. Quite a few have continued to engage your arguments among some snipping.

The biggest insult of all in this thread is of course you, being a member of the same religion that was a key motivator of those who perpetrated these terrible crimes on the people of the United States of America (not forgetting those of many other nationalities who died in the attacks), choosing to accuse the victims of doing it to themselves while offering an argument that is nothing more than wild assertion.

Güle güle and watch the door on your way out.

 

[Oystein]

To all members: As a Muslim researcher ... [self-pitying and self-aggrandizing and self-judging crap snipped]

If you are typical for all muslim researchers, there is little wonder why most scientific progress in the last few hundred years has been made by christians, atheists, jews, hindus, shintos and buddhists, but not by muslims. Islam used to bring about great minds and great science, but that was centuries ago. What a shame this formerly great culture has gone into such a long and pitiful decline and can today only produce little, closed minds like yours.

 

[twinstead]

If you are typical for all muslim researchers, there is little wonder why most scientific progress in the last few hundred years has been made by christians, atheists, jews, hindus, shintos and buddhists, but not by muslims. Islam used to bring about great minds and great science, but that was centuries ago. What a shame this formerly great culture has gone into such a long and pitiful decline and can today only produce little, closed minds like yours.

Yup. I hate to say it, but while the Muslim world is slowly tearing itself apart, the US just released the first images of the first spacecraft to orbit Mercury while trying desperately to contact one of their 2 robotic rovers on Mars that finally stopped communicating after years. All this a few years after Europe landed a spacecraft on a moon of Saturn.

Islam was once the epitome of tolerance, technology, and philosophy on Earth. It certainly is not now. Blame the Jews, the West, whomever you want on that sad fact, mehmetin, if it makes you feel better.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Why does this thread remind me of a zombie movie?? Well, it must have something to do with the fact that the topic has been turned into a shambling, mindless mess and everyone's just pumping bullets into it for fun.

Someone: Aim for the head. Please. Put this thread out of its -and our - misery!

 

[GStan]

If you search a little bit, you'll learn that I have more than 20 years experence in several technical domains.

You do not need to consider my qualifications to debunk my work, I do not use my qualifications to support my claims, so you should not too. I will not give more information about my qualifications; same as yours, they are meaningless.

Surprised no one responded to this gem...probably the only true statement he made in 40 pages.

 

[Craig4]

You link speak about people inside the elevators before the collapse. So it's not related to the explosives.

May be you speak about the protection of the explosives from impact and fire? People who prepared the explosives, knew that there will be plane impact and fire. So they also included the required fire protection into the explosives. At first, their place was mechanically very well protected, between two columns. There are other fire protection, such as metallic package.

Great, now please produce some explosive residue.

 

[Craig4]

That might just account for his shocking lack of real world knowledge

In all fairness, I asked him the question in Turkish and he responded in Turkish.

 

[The Platypus]

To be able to make any investigation the first step is being able to make the difference between possible and impossible theories. With such huge attacks like 9/11 and the number of disinformation/confusion making agents, if you are not strong enough to make the difference between possible/not realistic/impossible theories, you are unable to make any investigation.

When you remove all impossible theories, the remaining stuff could only be the truth.

Nice try but that doesn't even come close to cutting it.

You are playing dishonest little childish games. Simply stating that everything you don't like is "impossible", without showing any reason why it's impossible, doesn't make you right or make it so. I don't know you, you are just some anonymous weirdo ranting on the internet to me. I have absolutely no obligation or reason to believe a word you say and many reasons not too.

And then to do a complete turn around and attempt to support your delusions and lies with a statement of "nothing is impossible" is outrageous obvious hypocrisy. Gee isn't it bizarre that everything you don't like is impossible, yet when it comes to the nonsense your peddling, nothing is impossible.

You really think you can fool everyone with this? You are seriously kidding yourself if you thinking that nobody can see that you have put your foot right in your own mouth.

 

[NoahFence]

I second this. Substantive rebuttal had already been provided in the first half of this thread; everything else has just been entertainment. There's no more substance here.

If someone thirds this can we close it?

You really think you can fool everyone with this? You are seriously kidding yourself if you thinking that nobody can see that you have put your foot right in your own mouth.

I throw my shoe at this thread.

 

[George 152]

If someone thirds this can we close it?



I throw my shoe at this thread.

The 'sole' arbiter eh

 

[EventHorizon]

Surprised no one responded to this gem...probably the only true statement he made in 40 pages.

Pssst. Post #1581.

 

[Jackanory]

Since there is really no discussion/argument/debate happening in this thread, I think the moderators should close it.

The OP is apparently impervious to facts, doesn't understand the use of simile, metaphor, etc.

It's the internet equivalent of bashing one's head against a brick wall.

Moderators - please end our pain.

Is this not the conclusion of every single thread that exists within the 911 sub forum? It's not as if anything of real debate exists here. Those who frequently use their knowledge in great depth are wasting their time on this daft subject. No different to 'debating' the JFK crowd or the moon hoax crowd. Why bother? Why bother getting involved in long drawn out threads with reams and reams of endless rebuttals to nut jobs who either don't read what is in front of them, don't understand what is in front of them or who don't actually care what is in front of them because they believe the 'inside jobby' no matter what is put in front of them.

I see no point in trying to educate people who simply don't and won't listen. I don't bother giving any specific detail about explosives. When a clear offer to discuss it has been made, not one truther sticks around to discuss. Why? Either they are not really interested and are simply trolling or they don't really want to listen to or accept reality.

Ridicule is the only response left.

So I agree..........mods should close this and all threads in this wacky sub forum.

 

[abaddon]

Is this not the conclusion of every single thread that exists within the 911 sub forum? It's not as if anything of real debate exists here. Those who frequently use their knowledge in great depth are wasting their time on this daft subject. No different to 'debating' the JFK crowd or the moon hoax crowd. Why bother? Why bother getting involved in long drawn out threads with reams and reams of endless rebuttals to nut jobs who either don't read what is in front of them, don't understand what is in front of them or who don't actually care what is in front of them because they believe the 'inside jobby' no matter what is put in front of them.

I see no point in trying to educate people who simply don't and won't listen. I don't bother giving any specific detail about explosives. When a clear offer to discuss it has been made, not one truther sticks around to discuss. Why? Either they are not really interested and are simply trolling or they don't really want to listen to or accept reality.

Ridicule is the only response left.

So I agree..........mods should close this and all threads in this wacky sub forum.

On the one hand, I hear what you say. On the other hand, those fence sitters should see the reality of the horrible events of 9.11 despite the claims of the denier nutbars.

 

[Jackanory]

On the one hand, I hear what you say. On the other hand, those fence sitters should see the reality of the horrible events of 9.11 despite the claims of the denier nutbars.

What fence sitters? Do you really think that mehmetin keeps them on the fence? Do you think that the angry young man in ergo keeps them on the fence? How many fence sitters do you think there are for the 'JFK' ct? How many for the 'moon landings'? How many for 'bigfoot'?

Pick a thread, any thread, from any year. Now see how many more just like it you can find. Now see how many mehmets, femr2, jamonious, ergo & ultimas there are. One and all and all the same. Who is really the ct nut here? Is it the nutjobs who argue the 'inside jobby' or is it those who tediously debate nutjobs for 1500 posts. Geez..........1500+ posts of utter bollox and it only stops when the nutter leaves the thread. lol.