How can a nuclear power plant create a hydrogen explosion?

Yeah, I have a feeling our chains are being jerked.
Only good thing about Anders is his latest Avatar, one of my favoirte Impressionist paintings.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Darn. I haven't thought this through.
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Meanwhile, in other news...........


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PhantomWolf said:
Apart from the fact that the oxygen bounds with the zirconuim to form an oxide rather than floating off with the Hydrogen, this is pretty much right.

Zr + 2 H2O + heat => ZrO2 + 2 H2

Apparently Uranium is even worse, and when hot will rip the oxygens off of water and oxidise faster than zirconium does.

It'd pretty much a classic exothermal oxidation/reduction reaction.

Most modern reactors have recombiners to bled off and oxidize the any hydrogen safely.
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I was talking to Anders Lindman. Details would have confused him.

Though he managed to get confused anyway.
 
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Anders Lindman said:
Because does this metal look like something that would go poof when exposed to steam? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p9H0FubPv8
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It's not steam that does it, the zirconium has to be hot, well over 200 degrees, at that point it has the activation energy to start the oxidation reaction with water rather than just free oxygen. It is actually as reactive as Aluminium, but usually, like aluminium, is protected by an oxide layer so it doesn't react with air. The problem occurs when it gets hot and wet.
 
PhantomWolf said:
It's not steam that does it, the zirconium has to be hot, well over 200 degrees, at that point it has the activation energy to start the oxidation reaction with water rather than just free oxygen. It is actually as reactive as Aluminium, but usually, like aluminium, is protected by an oxide layer so it doesn't react with air. The problem occurs when it gets hot and wet.
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If it's as reactive as aluminum, then it would quickly be covered by a thin oxide layer protecting the metal from further oxidation. To create a hydrogen explosion like happened in Japan a large amount of hydrogen is needed.
 
PhantomWolf said:
It's not steam that does it, the zirconium has to be hot, well over 200 degrees, at that point it has the activation energy to start the oxidation reaction with water rather than just free oxygen. It is actually as reactive as Aluminium, but usually, like aluminium, is protected by an oxide layer so it doesn't react with air. The problem occurs when it gets hot and wet.
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I see your a victim of the big REDhOaX conspiracy.

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A conspiracy theory that is so extreme it's silly is the idea that all nuclear power plants are in reality water fuel cell plants. The mere idea is ridiculous. One question is: would such monstrous conspiracy be even remotely possible in practice? The answer is: yes.
 
Anders Lindman said:
A conspiracy theory that is so extreme it's silly is the idea that all nuclear power plants are in reality water fuel cell plants. The mere idea is ridiculous. One question is: would such monstrous conspiracy be even remotely possible in practice? The answer is: yes.
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Well, so much for the Law of Conservation of Energy.

Dave
 
Anders Lindman said:
If the zero point energy can be tapped, then it could possibly generate overunity, meaning more energy out of the system than is put into it.
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If is one of the smallest words in the english language, with the greatest meaning. ;)
 
What the eff? This thread was done with the first response to the OP.
 
Anders Lindman said:
If the zero point energy can be tapped, then it could possibly generate overunity, meaning more energy out of the system than is put into it.
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Apart from the minor point that, by definition, zero point energy cannot be tapped (don't worry, I don't expect you to understand that), I've already pointed out that, even if this fantasy were real, there would still be no point in using fuel cells to store the energy thus produced.

Dave
 
Anders Lindman said:
Going a bit off topic: Check out this short video clip (it's not from Hiroshima it's just a wrong video title): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtSt5XZ7fq4

Notice the clouds before the explosion and then look at the clouds after the explosion. The clouds are intact! The pressure wave from an atom bomb explosion is supposed to be enormous, yet these clouds remain completely unaffected. Film fakery? You betcha!
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You answered a question I never asked. Uranium goes into the plant. Waste comes out. How?
 
KingMerv00 said:
You answered a question I never asked. Uranium goes into the plant. Waste comes out. How?
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Disclaimer: MEGA conspiracy theory: :D That's just for show. So is most of the uranium mining. Sure, it's real, and the uranium is enriched and transported and put into the power plants, but only for show. The uranium has no real function.

This is how a water power plant works: http://i54.tinypic.com/2qwdfuu.jpg

Notice how similar the function of a water power plant is to the function of the alleged nuclear power plant.
 
Of course it's similar, it's a picture of a nuclear power plant with some words photoshopped in.
 
phunk said:
Of course it's similar, it's a picture of a nuclear power plant with some words photoshopped in.
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But that's how it could work! Sure, it's a very, very speculative conspiracy theory. Yet it's not impossible.
 
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