How can a nuclear power plant create a hydrogen explosion?

Anders Lindman said:
My conspiracy theory is that only some of the nuclear power plants would be water fuel cell power plants in disguise, and that most power plants are ordinary nuclear plants.
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Your OP suggested that the Japanese plant was one of those fake nuclear plants. Are you retracting that?

Some of my questions apply to all nuclear plants. For example, they take in uranium and produce waste. We know this because of nuclear regulatory agencies. How do you explain that?
 
Anders Lindman said:
Ok, I guess I need to explain the reason for the conspiracy theory. Disclaimer: Now it becomes a little tinfoil hattish, so be prepared for outrageous speculation. The idea is that water fuel cell technology has to be kept secret, mainly for the reason that it is based on zero point energy knowledge. The knowledge about that has in turn to be kept secret for security reasons, because it could be used for creating very powerful weapons and so the knowledge cannot safely be introduced on the public market.
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And why do you think fuel cell technology is based on zero point energy?
 
Anders Lindman said:
Interesting info. I have actually only followed the nuclear accident very little, but I became interested in the hydrogen explosion, caused by kryptonite...eh excuse me, zirconium super-fast oxidation.
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Why do you scoff at this? Do you have a better reason than "It just doesn't seem right."?
 
Saggy said:
I have seen no explanation, other than the one I quoted earlier, as to why one explosion was horizontal and the other was vertical. The fact that the reactor 3 explosion shot straight up suggests that at its origin it was constrained horizontally, i.e., it did not originate in the top of the building, as the explosion at reactor 1 probably did.
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Yep that sounds reasonable, as an explosion will always go out of the path of least resistance, so if one had a big concrete slab above it but weaker walls to the side it would go outwards, and one with thick walls and weak roof would go up, this is what i was trying to say by we don't know where in the buildings the explosions happened.

For an example of this check out the factories they make fireworks in, most of the buildings that store explosives have massively thick walls but a weak wooden roof, so the explosion is directed upwards, protecting the area around it.
 
KingMerv00 said:
Your OP suggested that the Japanese plant was one of those fake nuclear plants. Are you retracting that?

Some of my questions apply to all nuclear plants. For example, they take in uranium and produce waste. We know this because of nuclear regulatory agencies. How do you explain that?
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The idea that all nuclear power plants would be water fuel cell plants would be too extreme. Then uranium mining would have to be faked. That would really be a monstrous conspiracy. Very unlikely.

On the other hand, if only a few power plants are water fuel cell plants in disguise, then why? And I can't see any plausible reason for that at the moment. Darn. I haven't thought this through. :o
 
KingMerv00 said:
And why do you think fuel cell technology is based on zero point energy?
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Because ordinary electrolysis is too energy consuming. The water fuel cell technology I had in mind involves only very little energy in order to split water into oxygen and hydrogen. And that could require the use/manipulation of the zero point field. So for example, only a fraction of the energy produced would have to be used to drive the whole process, which in turn means an overunity energy production (more energy created than consumed plus the water could be recycled indefinitely).
 
Anders Lindman said:
Ok, I'm no chemistry expert so I guess zirconium could quickly oxidize when exposed to steam. It just sounds so implausible to me.
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There is nothing wierd about this. Its not just Zirconium that does this, alot of metals will oxidise and release H2 if you expose them to steam. some don't even need steam, just water, and some will do it so fast and energeticaly that you get an explosion.

10 seconds on google will give you many different links that explain the process in as much or as little detail as you want.
 
KingMerv00 said:
And why do you think fuel cell technology is based on zero point energy?
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That actually makes a weirdly distorted kind of sense, because fuel cells are an energy storage technology, not an energy generation technology.

Not much sense, though. If a zero-point energy generation technology existed (which, of course, it can't, because the whole concept of zero-point energy as a source of energy generation is a misconception rooted in simple innumeracy), then there would be no point in routing the energy thus generated through hydrogen fuel cells; it could just be delivered to the grid in exactly the same way as from a nuclear power station.

Dave
 
Anders Lindman said:
Ok, I guess I need to explain the reason for the conspiracy theory. Disclaimer: Now it becomes a little tinfoil hattish, so be prepared for outrageous speculation. The idea is that water fuel cell technology has to be kept secret, mainly for the reason that it is based on zero point energy knowledge. The knowledge about that has in turn to be kept secret for security reasons, because it could be used for creating very powerful weapons and so the knowledge cannot safely be introduced on the public market.
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As opposed to nucleair technology? Because, surely, that can never be used to produce powerful weapons?
 
Mr Zog said:
There is nothing wierd about this. Its not just Zirconium that does this, alot of metals will oxidise and release H2 if you expose them to steam. some don't even need steam, just water, and some will do it so fast and energeticaly that you get an explosion.

10 seconds on google will give you many different links that explain the process in as much or as little detail as you want.
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But surely zirconium is not like sodium: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD85OUkEKKw
 
Why do you completely discount the people who post here who obviously know more about nuclear physics than you do?
 
Mr Zog said:
There is nothing wierd about this. Its not just Zirconium that does this, alot of metals will oxidise and release H2 if you expose them to steam. some don't even need steam, just water, and some will do it so fast and energeticaly that you get an explosion.

10 seconds on google will give you many different links that explain the process in as much or as little detail as you want.
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Or even Youtube:

 
Craig4 said:
Why do you completely discount the people who post here who obviously know more about nuclear physics than you do?
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I have actually admitted that zirconium could perhaps oxidize as claimed by steam. At the same time I remain skeptical.
 
If I needed any further reason to dump Anders Lindman on Ignore this trollish nonsensical drivel would be it. However I killfile'd him long ago and advise others to do likewise.

 
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