Is Obama planning to attack Saudi Arabia?

Craig4 said:
You really need to read "The Big Short" by Mike Lewis. Those big traders who invest risk free you mean like Bear Sterns, AIG and Lehman Brothers? Some big boys fancy club. The reality is much more frightening than your fantasy. The vast investment banks that drive most of the world's economy engage in risky behavior and get involved in trades they don't understand. That should be what's keeping you up at night, not fantasizing about some fictitious cabal of puppet masters.
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Are you sure the cabal of puppet masters is fictitious? Some say that people like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet only have tiny amounts of money compared to the really rich and very old families with power and wealth stretching back centuries if not millennia.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Are you sure the cabal of puppet masters is fictitious? Some say that people like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet only have tiny amounts of money compared to the really rich and very old families with power and wealth stretching back centuries if not millennia.
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You have evidence of this?
 
Craig4 said:
You have evidence of this?
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All information is not public. For example information about the Gulf of Tonkin incident 1964 wasn't released until 2005!

"On November 30, 2005, the NSA released the first installment of previously classified information regarding the Gulf of Tonkin incident, including a moderately sanitized version of Mr. Hanyok's article, "Skunks, Bogies, Silent Hounds, and the Flying Fish: The Gulf of Tonkin Mystery, 2–4 August 1964" Cryptologic Quarterly, Winter 2000/Spring 2001 Edition, Vol. 19, No. 4 / Vol. 20, No. 1. The Hanyok article stated that intelligence information was presented to the Johnson administration "in such a manner as to preclude responsible decision makers in the Johnson administration from having the complete and objective narrative of events." Instead, "only information that supported the claim that the communists had attacked the two destroyers was given to Johnson administration officials." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident#NSA_report

So if you think there is publicly available evidence for everything that goes on in the world my guess is that you are gravely mistaken.
 
Anders Lindman said:
All information is not public. For example information about the Gulf of Tonkin incident 1964 wasn't released until 2005!

"On November 30, 2005, the NSA released the first installment of previously classified information regarding the Gulf of Tonkin incident, including a moderately sanitized version of Mr. Hanyok's article, "Skunks, Bogies, Silent Hounds, and the Flying Fish: The Gulf of Tonkin Mystery, 2–4 August 1964" Cryptologic Quarterly, Winter 2000/Spring 2001 Edition, Vol. 19, No. 4 / Vol. 20, No. 1. The Hanyok article stated that intelligence information was presented to the Johnson administration "in such a manner as to preclude responsible decision makers in the Johnson administration from having the complete and objective narrative of events." Instead, "only information that supported the claim that the communists had attacked the two destroyers was given to Johnson administration officials." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident#NSA_report

So if you think there is publicly available evidence for everything that goes on in the world my guess is that you are gravely mistaken.
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So you have no evidence for this then?
 
Of course not, he'll just shift topic to the latest rubbish he's pulled out of his arse.
 
Obama is being a bit tricky when it comes to Saudi Arabia at the moment:

'In what has lamentably become characteristic Obama behavior, the President ignored the two 900-pound gorillas in the room. One of those gorillas, Saudi Arabia, is said to be close ally of the U.S., a major supplier of its oil, a recipient of much U.S. military aid, and a steadfast partner in the so-called “war on terror.”' -- From: http://pubrecord.org/world/9087/obama-saudi-arabia-bahrain/
 
Craig4 said:
So your basis for this belief is that there could possibly be something kept from you? Odd.
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To the question "Are there conspiracies going on in the world today?" I believe the answer is definitely yes. The next step is try to discover what some of those conspiracies are.

To go back to topic, the idea that Obama wants to attack Saudi Arabia looks a bit slim at the moment. The idea is a shot from the hip. But who knows, soon maybe things may become 'problematic' in Saudi Arabia.
 
Anders Lindman said:
To the question "Are there conspiracies going on in the world today?" I believe the answer is definitely yes. The next step is try to discover what some of those conspiracies are.
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... by looking at the evidence.

You have none, just crap which came from the same place all crap comes from. But you can't see that place without a full length mirror, or hopping up on your bathroom sink and looking over your shoulder or between your leg while bent over.

OMG! It's a conspiracy to keep AL from seeing the source of his crap!
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TSR said:
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... by looking at the evidence.

You have none, just crap which came from the same place all crap comes from. But you can't see that place without a full length mirror, or hopping up on your bathroom sink and looking over your shoulder or between your leg while bent over.

OMG! It's a conspiracy to keep AL from seeing the source of his crap!
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I don't have any hard evidence for this latest idea.

What determines the likelihood for military invasion of Saudi Arabia is what Obama thinks about:

1. Will the Saudi government be able to keep the political situation in the country stable, now and in the coming years?

2. Will the Saudi government be able to keep China and other big oil importers at bay and not make too big deals with them?

3. Will Saudi Arabia continue to export oil at the same rate in the next few years?

If the answers to these questions are yes, then Obama will not likely send in military troops into Saudi Arabia.
 
TSR said:
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You misspelled "any evidence at all" above, and we already knew that.
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But I have speculations! ;):D

The U.S. had as much as 200,000 troops in Iraq. Today the number is about 50,000 troops. And next year the plan is to have even fewer troops in Iraq.

So where to send the excess of U.S. troops? Some into Libya but hardly all the troops. Some more into Afghanistan perhaps but maybe not.

Instead Obama may be planning to pump in a huge number of troops into Saudi Arabia!
 
Anders Lindman said:
But I have speculations! ;):D

The U.S. had as much as 200,000 troops in Iraq. Today the number is about 50,000 troops. And next year the plan is to have even fewer troops in Iraq.

So where to send the excess of U.S. troops? Some into Libya but hardly all the troops. Some more into Afghanistan perhaps but maybe not.

Instead Obama may be planning to pump in a huge number of troops into Saudi Arabia!
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Your speculations don't count for anything.

How has the US Central Commander Commander disposed his forces? How has the US Africa Command Commander disposed his ground forces? What about those dispositions cause you to believe offensive ground action is being contemplated? What about the force flow from the US to Europe and Southwest Asia indicates to you planning for sustained ground operations and post conflict occupations?
 
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