Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

That's a lie. The technology does not make that possible today. Typical confusion and disinformation. Agagin everybody should make his own opinion. In other words, disinfo agents are wery well working and they succeeded to create huge confusion about the subject.


To quote Harlan Ellison, you aren't entitled your opinion, you are entitled to your informed opinion. The trouble with human nature is that everyone considers their own opinions as "informed", which is why it is useful to discuss one's own opinions with others of differing opinions. To your credit, that's exactly what you are doing here, I just wish that you were a little more open-minded about questioning your own opinions and preconceptions.

The official story is a white lie. Yopu can refuse that as much as you want, that does not change anything: The official story reamains as a white lie.


You keep using that term. I do not think it means what you think it means:

white lie
noun
a harmless or trivial lie, esp. one told to avoid hurting someone's feelings.


I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you use the term because you assume it is synonymous with "lie". If on the other hand you are using it as a play on words to make a coy dig at the supposed "white" (in the racial sense) perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks, I should warn you that such a use of the term is not only inapt (since I assume you aren't suggesting that the lie you are referring to is neither "harmless" nor "trivial"), it is also arguably racist.
 
And you think that Ramzi Yousef didn't bomb the WTCs' in 1993? Think again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing



Those names on there sure sound like they're muslim names.

And teh FBI was in contact with the perpetrators. Did they planned the evnts, supplied teh explosives, manimpulated the small minded Muslims, ??? As usual, it was also a much confuse operation.

The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings Mr. Salem secretly made of his talks with law-enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as in a far better position than previously known to foil the Feb. 26 bombing of New York City's tallest towers.
 
And teh FBI was in contact with the perpetrators. Did they planned the evnts, supplied teh explosives, manimpulated the small minded Muslims, ??? As usual, it was also a much confuse operation.

The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings Mr. Salem secretly made of his talks with law-enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as in a far better position than previously known to foil the Feb. 26 bombing of New York City's tallest towers.
Right, guess what, look up the address, the street address for the bombings. Do you think the FBI went to the wrong part of NYC? Do you have any clue how many cities are in NYC? Clue time!

Why do you post nonsense you found on the INTERNET? Most of the internet is nonsense and it looks like your country has set your google filter to keep you dumbed down. The nonsense filter, or the dumb down filer on your google needs to be turned off. Do you know how to do that?

19 Islamic idiots did 911. You fail to comprehend what happen on 911. Are you of Islam too? Is this a problem with Islam, you guys are gullible, the 19 terrorists did what UBL told them, and you post what idiots made up about 911. Are you gullible because your are like the 19 terrorists?

Stupidity is a human thing, the 19 terrorist, stupid. Why not try to do better than regurgitating lies you found on the Internet. You blame Jews and the United States for 911, you hate Americans and Jews, so did the 19 terrorists. Are you like the 19 terrorist except you make up lies?
 
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You can find exploded steels in my power point file.

I hope you're not referring to this picture from your website: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/thermiteonwtccolumns_small.jpg


You should see this:
With the right setup you could cut that in a few minutes.
Obviously Senenmut you have never held a torch.

For everyone else, I think you misunderstood me.I wasn't talking about the angle that the entire beam was cut on (there were lots of beams cut flat).
Look closely at the pic again but only the face i circled here:
cutbeam1.jpg

I'm talking about the slits at a 45 degree angle on the cut face (from outside to inside)
These are the torch marks. It was a fast sloppy cut (obviously speed was required not neat cuts). The slag was blown out the back of the cut and onto the front of the beam. Explosives, thermite, whatever you want to think, would never have left those marks.
 
Well... poisoned gas is as silly as it is stupid, and as unproven as both put together, ...

The poison gas-on-a-hijacked-airliner is from a book by Nelsone Demille. Lion's Game. The creepy thing is that, on 9/11/2001, I was on vacation and I was reading that very book.
 
And teh FBI was in contact with the perpetrators. Did they planned the evnts, supplied teh explosives, manimpulated the small minded Muslims, ??? As usual, it was also a much confuse operation.

The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings Mr. Salem secretly made of his talks with law-enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as in a far better position than previously known to foil the Feb. 26 bombing of New York City's tallest towers.

The FBI only planned to infiltrait Yousef's group. Yousef's uncle KSM, planned the attack, supplied them with money & Yousef bought the explosive ingredients.

Yeah, but the authorities never got the chance to stop Yousef & his co-conspiractors before they bombed the WTC.

You claim that Radical Muslims aren't to blame for both the 1993 & 2001 attacks? I say you're full of ****!
 
My position is one that conspiracy kooks never seem to be able to even conceive of...

I'm not on the side of the gov't, I, like most people i know, have my gripes and beefs with the gov't and how it operates or fails too.

Yet i still don't believe a word this mehmetin guy says. A big clue to me that he is that he is trying to sell a pack of lies, is his repetitive arrogant claims that he's infallible and undebunkable... A classic snake oil salesman tactic.
 
To quote Harlan Ellison, you aren't entitled your opinion, you are entitled to your informed opinion. The trouble with human nature is that everyone considers their own opinions as "informed", which is why it is useful to discuss one's own opinions with others of differing opinions.

You are right. We are humans, and we believe on our opinion. To avoid that, I did my best, discussed with too many people, asked to everyone to critics it as much as possible, I asked to remain sincere and honest, and that’s all. During the time, I modified too many aspects. Now, I crossed about 95% of the critics.

Sure, there are some evidences that I do not have access to. My work is made individually by my own means! You ca imagine, they are very small.

Now, my work needs to be studied by a justice court that can check every evidence and access to all information. Such justice action does not exist yet. Would it be possible in the future? I do not know. But if people want such terror strikes be stopped, justice must be made, independent, impartial true justice.

To your credit, that's exactly what you are doing here, I just wish that you were a little more open-minded about questioning your own opinions and preconceptions.

I am not perfect. But I do my best. I'd like to converse with people like you, sincere, direct, and who tell what they think.

Unfortunately this is not the situation. There are too much confusion makers here as on many forums. And it becomes difficult to discuss.

Also we must be aware that explaining such details by writing texts is not easy.

You keep using that term. I do not think it means what you think it means:

white lie
noun
a harmless or trivial lie, esp. one told to avoid hurting someone's feelings.


I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you use the term because you assume it is synonymous with "lie". If on the other hand you are using it as a play on words to make a coy dig at the supposed "white" (in the racial sense) perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks, I should warn you that such a use of the term is not only inapt (since I assume you aren't suggesting that the lie you are referring to is neither "harmless" nor "trivial"), it is also arguably racist.

The first time I saw that was from a friend who translated my words. But probably he misunderstood my sentence. I mean "full lie", "100% lie", something like that. There is no relation to the color of people; nothing to avoid hurting someone's feeling too.
 
The poison gas-on-a-hijacked-airliner is from a book by Nelsone Demille. Lion's Game. The creepy thing is that, on 9/11/2001, I was on vacation and I was reading that very book.


Well, it goes back further than that. Poison gas (or at least knockout gas) was used to incapaciate the crew of the Vulcan bomber in the film Thunderball(1965) (can't remember if it was used in the book), the crew and passengers of the 747 in Airport '77 (1977) as well as the crew and passengers of the jet at the beginning of Mission: Impossible II (2000) (the same year The Lion's Game was published).
 
I hope you're not referring to this picture from your website: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/thermiteonwtccolumns_small.jpg


You should see this:
Originally Posted by Justin39640
With the right setup you could cut that in a few minutes.
Obviously Senenmut you have never held a torch.

For everyone else, I think you misunderstood me.I wasn't talking about the angle that the entire beam was cut on (there were lots of beams cut flat).
Look closely at the pic again but only the face i circled here:

cutbeam1.jpg


I'm talking about the slits at a 45 degree angle on the cut face (from outside to inside)
These are the torch marks. It was a fast sloppy cut (obviously speed was required not neat cuts). The slag was blown out the back of the cut and onto the front of the beam. Explosives, thermite, whatever you want to think, would never have left those marks.

I agree with that people who tells that this picture is troch made. From about march 2006 to august 2007 I repeatedly told that to Steven Jones and his supporters. I produced too many explanations, including the image next that in my web site (the image was in french, i just put the english version). Finally I left them. Yes for me Steven Jones is disinfo agent. Here is teh explanation in english.

Angle_Cut_E.jpg
 
QUOTE=WildCat;6898617]Can't possibly be true. I don't think you could even design a brick.[/QUOTE]

You should ask yourself how biased you are! If you were a little bit technically skilled people, you'll understand that I am mainly speaking on technical aspects. So I am technical designer!

Sorry, I do not want to insult you. I understand that you do not imagine I could be a technical designer. Medias so much brain washed people that most of them believe Muslims are ignorant in many aspects. Normally technically skilled Muslims will not dare to study that subject. I decided to make it. I dare.

For me, honest people should take part on these horrible terror attacks to make justice and peace amongst humanity.
 
The poison gas-on-a-hijacked-airliner is from a book by Nelsone Demille. Lion's Game. The creepy thing is that, on 9/11/2001, I was on vacation and I was reading that very book.

Thanks for your input. I did not read that book. But when zapping on the remote control of my TV I just kept a small scene of James Bond movie made in 1965 in which one of the pilots gases all other ones.
 
To quote Harlan Ellison, you aren't entitled your opinion, you are entitled to your informed opinion. The trouble with human nature is that everyone considers their own opinions as "informed", which is why it is useful to discuss one's own opinions with others of differing opinions. To your credit, that's exactly what you are doing here, I just wish that you were a little more open-minded about questioning your own opinions and preconceptions.




You keep using that term. I do not think it means what you think it means:

white lie
noun
a harmless or trivial lie, esp. one told to avoid hurting someone's feelings.


I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you use the term because you assume it is synonymous with "lie". If on the other hand you are using it as a play on words to make a coy dig at the supposed "white" (in the racial sense) perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks, I should warn you that such a use of the term is not only inapt (since I assume you aren't suggesting that the lie you are referring to is neither "harmless" nor "trivial"), it is also arguably racist.

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The FBI only planned to infiltrait Yousef's group. Yousef's uncle KSM, planned the attack, supplied them with money & Yousef bought the explosive ingredients.

Yeah, but the authorities never got the chance to stop Yousef & his co-conspiractors before they bombed the WTC.

In Muslim countries, uncles often send money to their nephew. One can use that as pretext.

You claim that Radical Muslims aren't to blame for both the 1993 & 2001 attacks? I say you're full of ****!

For 2001 attacks Muslims are not involves. In 1993 bombing, I do not know. An investigation with included Muslim investigators is needed. If we want justice be made and peace be installed amongst humanity, such justice should be made.

Keep your insults for yourself please.
 
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My work is limited to prove the technical possibility to make the strikes as I explained. The proposed methods, technologies should be consistent with all known evidence. Up to that, everything is ok!
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They are not.

For example, the proposition that explosives brought down the towers is inconsistent with dozends of recording devices NOT recording the sound of EXTREMELY loud explosions just before the initiation of collapse.


Basically, you are saying that you have NO MATERIAL EVIDENCE for your theories.


You have STILL not replied to my question about how many people were deleted that installed the things you imagine and who did the pre-flight checks.
 
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Well, it goes back further than that. Poison gas (or at least knockout gas) was used to incapaciate the crew of the Vulcan bomber in the film Thunderball(1965) (can't remember if it was used in the book), the crew and passengers of the 747 in Airport '77 (1977) as well as the crew and passengers of the jet at the beginning of Mission: Impossible II (2000) (the same year The Lion's Game was published).

Thanks. As a Bond fan, I should have remembered Thunderball. I remember the great theme song performed by Tom Jones.

So, mehmetin, congratulations. Your imagination has thought of something that you remember from a movie made in 1965. Like the rest of your theories, it's a bunch of fantasy, but whatever.
 
You should see my power point, it's clearly explained, and it's also confirmed by the official ASCE report.

No, and no.


Ther was no chords, the explosives were radio controleld.

No material evidence of such radio devices either, and still no detonators. Do you acknowledge that all this material evidence does not exist?

The explosions happened inside the core with closed areas.

That would not make them inaudible. That would make EXTREMLY loud explosions AMAZINGLY loud. Every single recording device for miles around would have recorded these AMAZINGLY loud explosions before the onset of collapse. None did. This is material evidence for NO explosives.

You can find exploded steels in my power point file.

No, I cannot.
Add "assessing fractured steel" to the many things you are totally incompetent about.
You present some debris and imagine it was exploded. You don't provide evidence for this imagination.

Many experts who actually do know what exploded steel looks like have inspected the original steel and found NO MATERIAL EVIDENCE for explosions.
 
Well, it goes back further than that. Poison gas (or at least knockout gas) was used to incapaciate the crew of the Vulcan bomber in the film Thunderball(1965) (can't remember if it was used in the book), the crew and passengers of the 747 in Airport '77 (1977) as well as the crew and passengers of the jet at the beginning of Mission: Impossible II (2000) (the same year The Lion's Game was published).

Thanks for your input. During longtime I thought what happened to the Pilots? First I thought that the control system can use non-reversible gear box making the pilots unable to stop or move the automatic movement of flight controls. But if pilots remain alive, they'll make every possible think to crash the plane into the ground, stop the engines, stop other systems, ... Then arrive the solution: the pilots should be killed.

How to kill the pilots? By gassing the interior of the plane and that kills everybody.

In that case, what it would happen? As the system was used for the first time, especially in the first plane AA11, they needed to check that the pilots were dead. How to make that?

The only manner to check if the pilots were dead is in three steps:
1- Contact the pilots to establish the communication. That's the order of Pete Zalewski at 8:14 :
- Hello AA11!
- Yes here is AA11.
- Turn 20° right.
- Ok received.

2- Inject the gas by starting the automatic control system. This has to be made by the team who were also listening the control tower.

3- Wait some seconds and contact the pilots again. That has been made by Pete Zalewski by a second order:
- AA11 climb to 35000ft!

If the pilots answer, that means they are still alive, there is a problem. But if they do not answer, that means they are dead and the system is worked well.
 

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