Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

[kookbreaker]

That's a lie. The technology does not make that possible today. Typical confusion and disinformation. Agagin everybody should make his own opinion. In other words, disinfo agents are wery well working and they succeeded to create huge confusion about the subject.

So all you have, in face of all the evidence presented to you, is to accuse him of lying.

What a class act.

 

[DGM]

In other words, disinfo agents are wery well working and they succeeded to create huge confusion about the subject.

Speaking of a dis-info agent. You discredit the "truth" movement and try to shift the blame to the Jews. I'm beginning to think You are dis-info. Do you have physical proof for anything you say "shill"?

 

[mehmetin]

The succession of the hijacks is a very possible and not at all unlikely outcome of 4 planes planned to be hijacked within an hour of each other. The exact timing is best explained as coincidence, and any meaning you ascribe to it is only a figment of your imagination. There is nothing impossible at all about the sequence of events. Nothing happened in any of the four planes that can't be perfectly explained by 4 teams, one in each plane, hijacking that plane after reaching cruising altitude and steering it toward a target.

4 different teams can preview the following scenarios:
- Fixed times : very improbable, because they can not foresee the delays on take offs.
- Fixed times after take off : That'sthe most probable possibility, but it's not confirmed by the actual times.
- Reaching cruise altitude : Thes could be considered, but the actual times are not consistent with that. Also for the Pentagon strikes, it was not necessary to wait that time, the target was at about 30km from the take off airport; it was not necessary to reach cruise altitude.

The succession of the hijack as it happened, they were dependent each to other, is impossible by 4 different teams who were not able to contact each other.

Only ONE team operation using technology and automated control makes that possible.

No. The plane that was found WAS a 757, identified by hundreds or thousands of plane parts and all the passengers who had boarded it earlier.
The whole is not quite as large as the wingspan because the wingtips were the smallest and lightest part of the plane and didn't have nearly the impact of the fuselage, the engines and the wide wing parts that contain tons of fuel.

Whatever it is, even plastic ball, at such high speed will make traces and damages on the facade; the damage span should be consistent with the wingspan of the plane. But it is NOT! So it was not a 757. The official story is a white lie.

[ETA] You forgot a little something: No material evidence whatsoever for this fantasy! [/ETA]

All evidence, videos, photos, damaged steel, size and speed of ajected dust, speed of collapse, ... all are consistent with the planted radio controlled explosives.

No. Only in your imagination.

The official story is a white lie. Yopu can refuse that as much as you want, that does not change anything: The official story reamains as a white lie.

 

[Oystein]

That's a lie. The technology does not make that possible today. Typical confusion and disinformation. Agagin everybody should make his own opinion. In other words, disinfo agents are wery well working and they succeeded to create huge confusion about the subject.

No evidence + Pure denial = Muslim researcher?

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

The official story is a white lie. Yopu can refuse that as much as you want, that does not change anything: The official story reamains as a white lie.

The only "white lie" I see is you denying that you're a terrorist sympathizer.

So, how many Radical Muslims killed innocent people in the Middle East today?

 

[mehmetin]

The real question: Is Mehmetin an airplane mechanic or technition?

I am a technical designer and I am used to design all kind of technical systems! None of you is able to prove anything I told is impossible.

 

[Zep]

Troll.

Do Not Feed.

 

[mehmetin]

I thought you wanted to keep religion out of this thread.

But why, as a Muslim, do you have motivation to find the truth? Are people of other religions liars? Are atheists liars? I don't get it.

In that case, Muslims are accused. To defend themself, they need to get strong evidence, undebunkable evidence. That's why I have the motivation to find the truth. And if no government and no cover up agents are able to debunk my work, that means it's true.

And speaking of religion do you realize that your 1st point in your signature makes no sense?

That second sentence doesn't have anything to do with the first sentence. I'm not good at naming logical fallacies but I think I know a fallacy when I see it. I mean, it makes no sense. Can Muslims not work together as a team? Or do they require more than one team to work together?

It's not a question of team work! It's a question to get the information or not. By 4 different teams, it's not needed to get successive hijacks, and it's almost impossible to create such perfect succession. You need to think a little bit to know what exactly that means.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

I am a technical designer and I am used to design all kind of technical systems! None of you is able to prove anything I told is impossible.

http://www.howtodothings.com/careers/how-to-understand-what-a-technical-designer-does

End word for technical designers

Even though this is a relatively new description as well as a profession, high specialization is called for which is both an advantage and disadvantage. Globalization has cleared all borders and companies require a large degree interaction across people with different cultures, technologies, systems and process of working, manufacturing and doing business. Technical designers have become an integral part of companies who require such professionals to interact with local out sourced businesses and ensure completion of their products along with their exacting standards of quality and branding. However, technical designers can become highly specialized and practice in niche areas, limiting their scope of moving across industries. Deciding which way to go may be easier once you've taken a number of online classes in technical design.

It's impossible! With the changes made in the years, your profession hasn't even caught up with todays technology.

 

[DGM]

I am a technical designer and I am used to design all kind of technical systems! None of you is able to prove anything I told is impossible.

We can't debunk what lives only in your imagination. All we can do is show that your "ideas" are un-workable.

 

[Oystein]

4 different teams can preview the following scenarios:
- Fixed times : very improbable, because they can not foresee the delays on take offs.
- Fixed times after take off : That'sthe most probable possibility, but it's not confirmed by the actual times.

Only in your imagination were any times fixed, other than the scheduled departure times. All the rest is coincidence and Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy.
Have you looked up and understood the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy yet?

- Reaching cruise altitude : Thes could be considered, but the actual times are not consistent with that. Also for the Pentagon strikes, it was not necessary to wait that time, the target was at about 30km from the take off airport; it was not necessary to reach cruise altitude.

Wrong. You say that because you know nothing about flying a plane and commercial plane operation.

During take-off, any passenger getting up from his seat would immeduately raise suspicion, which endangers his mission. He would take over a plane that is in a somewhat unstable situation. The muslims who committed these murders were a lot smarter than you: They decided to start the hijacks when they could approach the cockpit door without raising suspicion, and when they could risk that the plane is not flown by anyone during the time they need to kill and remove the pilot. That time has come when the plane reaches crusising altitude and most systems are usually switched to autopilot.

The succession of the hijack as it happened, they were dependent each to other, is impossible by 4 different teams who were not able to contact each other.

There was no dependence other than scheduled departure times being close to each other (less than an hour). All the rest is your imagination, as you commit the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy. Look it up!

Only ONE team operation using technology and automated control makes that possible.

No. Mere coincidence makes that possible.

Whatever it is, even plastic ball, at such high speed will make traces and damages on the facade; the damage span should be consistent with the wingspan of the plane. But it is NOT! So it was not a 757. The official story is a white lie.

Where is your material evidence that there were no traces of damage as wide as the wingspan?

All evidence, videos, photos, damaged steel, size and speed of ajected dust, speed of collapse, ... all are consistent with the planted radio controlled explosives.

Except that there is no such evidence for the devices themselves (detonators, chords...) or their immediate effects (loud, sharp explosions, steel cut and broken the way it happens in controlled explosive demolitions).

The official story is a white lie. Yopu can refuse that as much as you want, that does not change anything: The official story reamains as a white lie.

Since you provide neither material evidence nor compelling logic, but commit logical fallacies and disregard material evidence, your claim remains unsupported and unconvincing.

 

[mehmetin]

What I was referring to was the fact that; after being hijacked, Flt. 175 flew over four different states (three depending on what map you may be looking at) before turning north heading for tower 2. The Tomahawk TERCON guidance system does not work that way. The Tomahawk guidance system would have taken a more direct path to its target.

Its target has been given when it made the last turn toward its target. At first it was on human pilot control, at 8:42 it became on automatic control of tomahawk system for some check to be made before the target coordintes are given at about 8:50.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Its target has been given when it made the last turn toward its target. At first it was on human pilot control, at 8:42 it became on automatic control of tomahawk system for some check to be made before the target coordintes are given at about 8:50.

You don't know what the Tomahawks weapons system is, let alone its GPS guidence system.

You don't know jack!

 

[mehmetin]

Let's be honest here; what you're really saying is, "As a Muslim I have the motivation to prove my Muslim brothers innocent."

If the facts proved that Muslims were guilty, I do not need to they were innocent. But if the facts prove that they were innocent about 9/11, I will do the required to prove it. But that's not only for Muslims, my work is also for non Muslims because the perpetrators of such crimes should be idenitifed and charged. Without that, they'll continue their crimes and they'll kill other people. We can tell that if justice was made about 9/11, there will be no 3/11 Madrid and 7/7 London bombings. The absence of justice about 9/11 is responsible on tehse bombings.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

If the facts proved that Muslims were guilty, I do not need to they were innocent. But if the facts prove that they were innocent about 9/11, I will do the required to prove it. But that's not only for Muslims, my work is also for non Muslims because the perpetrators of such crimes should be idenitifed and charged. Without that, they'll continue their crimes and they'll kill other people. We can tell that if justice was made about 9/11, there will be no 3/11 Madrid and 7/7 London bombings. The absence of justice about 9/11 is responsible on tehse bombings.

And you think that Ramzi Yousef didn't bomb the WTCs' in 1993? Think again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing

The attack was planned by a group of conspirators including Ramzi Yousef, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal A. Ayyad, Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ahmad Ajaj. They received financing from Khaled Shaikh Mohammed, Yousef's uncle. In March 1994, four men were convicted of carrying out the bombing: Abouhalima, Ajaj, Ayyad and Salameh. The charges included conspiracy, explosive destruction of property and interstate transportation of explosives. In November 1997, two more were convicted: Yousef, the mastermind behind the bombings, and Eyad Ismoil, who drove the truck carrying the bomb.

Those names on there sure sound like they're muslim names.

 

[mehmetin]

That duration depend on how the design was made. If the design is made professionally (for exempale by some employees of Raytheon who dead on the strikes), the install time could be reduced up to about 1 hour.

The problem is that you haven't explained how it is possible, just that you think it is. The measure of possibility is not that the idea entered your mind.

All contro system is made by a computer that gets measurements (here from integrated GPS receiver and electronic gyroscope) and acts on some physical parameter (here the flight surfaces by the flight controls that the Pilots use to fly the plane, and to mave these flight controls they had to design 3 servos). When these measurements and the action systems are available, all other aspects are software problem and could be solved by software.

It's so simple. What's the problem? If you do not believe, study by internet and ask to your neighbours.

 

[DGM]

All contro system is made by a computer that gets measurements (here from integrated GPS receiver and electronic gyroscope) and acts on some physical parameter (here the flight surfaces by the flight controls that the Pilots use to fly the plane, and to mave these flight controls they had to design 3 servos). When these measurements and the action systems are available, all other aspects are software problem and could be solved by software.

It's so simple. What's the problem? If you do not believe, study by internet and ask to your neighbours.

Three servos? What no throttles.

 

[mehmetin]

Yes, but it is difficult to do without rasing suspicion, and practically impossible without being detected during pre-flight check.

YES! You definitely HAVE to provide evidence for this being true! A million things are possible, like an army of midges hidden in the carry-on luggage, space-based nuclear lasers, or the whole thing being a Truman-Show-style hoax of YOUR entire life. However all of these possibilities are exceedingly unlikely, ridiculously complicated, and unsupported by evidence - JUST LIKE YOURS!
You asked us to refute your claims by only using material evidence and logic.
So where is your material evidence?

And where is your evidence that any of this is true? Material evidence, mehmetin?

To delet the maintenance database, ONLY ONE PEOPLE is enough. A justice investigation should explain it.

WRONG. You'd need at least TWO people for that, since we are talking about TWO airlines here.
But mehmetin, why did you ignore the rest of my question? Did your muslim conscience tell you to weasle out of this and hope I would not spot your trick? Please also estimate the number of the following collaborators (I quote from my previous post):
Are the PEOPLE deleted who did that maintenance? Are the PEOPLE deleted who manipulated the plane?[/QUOTE]

My work is limited to prove the technical possibility to make the strikes as I explained. The proposed methods, technologies should be consistent with all known evidence. Up to that, everything is ok!

After that, justice should continue my work to check everything. I do not have access to any insider information on tehse issues. Only justice can have access. If there is no justice, it's sure, more evidence is impossible.

But that does not mean my work is flase, that just proves my questions are founded and should be investigated. And if there is no justice, that proves perpatrators are still free and are committing other crimes.

 

[Justin39640]

The official story is a white lie. Yopu can refuse that as much as you want, that does not change anything: The official story reamains as a white lie.

I thought you said it was a "Jew lie"?

 

[mehmetin]

Where is your material evidence that there were no traces of damage as wide as the wingspan?

You should see my power point, it's clearly explained, and it's also confirmed by the official ASCE report.

All evidence, videos, photos, damaged steel, size and speed of ajected dust, speed of collapse, ... all are consistent with the planted radio controlled explosives.

Except that there is no such evidence for the devices themselves (detonators, chords...) or their immediate effects (loud, sharp explosions, steel cut and broken the way it happens in controlled explosive demolitions).
[/QUOTE]

Ther was no chords, the explosives were radio controleld.
The explosions happened inside the core with closed areas.
You can find exploded steels in my power point file.