Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

mehmetin said:
That duration depend on how the design was made. If the design is made professionally (for exempale by some employees of Raytheon who dead on the strikes), the install time could be reduced up to about 1 hour.
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This is stupendous.
 
Oystein said:
I have to admit I don't get the relevance of the four states, and what you mean by "scenic".
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What I was referring to was the fact that; after being hijacked, Flt. 175 flew over four different states (three depending on what map you may be looking at) before turning north heading for tower 2. The Tomahawk TERCON guidance system does not work that way. The Tomahawk guidance system would have taken a more direct path to its target.
 
fess said:
What I was referring to was the fact that; after being hijacked, Flt. 175 flew over four different states (three depending on what map you may be looking at) before turning north heading for tower 2. The Tomahawk TERCON guidance system does not work that way. The Tomahawk guidance system would have taken a more direct path to its target.
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They usually fly as direct a path as possible to extend the weapons range and to add as much fuel into the payload as possible, not because they can't do it. A missiles flight path can be purposely set to avoid being detected by flying around certain known areas or to conceal the launch datum (usually that's reserved for TASM and not TLAM though). There is an upper limit on how many waypoints that you can set to do this but I've never heard of it being reached outside of simulators.

The Tomahawk guidance theory is already idiotic on its own, no need to add to it.
 
Sam.I.Am said:
The Tomahawk guidance theory is already idiotic on its own, no need to add to it.
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I wasn't trying to add to the idiocy, I was answering a question. There is only one word to describe the use of the guidance systems used by the Tomahawk to guide a 757… impossible.
 
fess said:
I wasn't trying to add to the idiocy, I was answering a question. There is only one word to describe the use of the guidance systems used by the Tomahawk to guide a 757… impossible.
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Yes, impossible, but not on account of the guidance system's abilities to fly this or that route.

Here is the UA175 route:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UA175_path.svg
I find it actually quite straightforward: Go past NYC, do a U-turn, and done. We could speculate on the motives - to make sure he hits the south tower by coming from a more southerly direction? To be as far away from AA11 in case the air force does manage to get a fighter up? My guess is that the terrorists on 175 simply needed a little longer to figure out how to navigate to Manhattan.
 
Oystein said:
And you imagine, in your total cluelessness, that technicians don't have the license to open and remove covers? Most of the things that they check are behind something. Anything attached to the moving parts of the cockpit controls WILL be found.
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Sure the technicians have acces to all parts of the plane. It's also sure that the same accesses could be given to the members of the perpetrators to acces to some areas and install the equipments!

Oystein said:
Got material evidence for that?
Otherwise, here is the simple reply: No.
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I must only explain that this is possible. Do you have any argument that proves what I explain is impossible? Can you tell us that such installation is impossible? NO! Definitely No.

Oystein said:
That duration depend on how the design was made. If the design is made professionally (for exempale by some employees of Raytheon who dead on the strikes), the install time could be reduced up to about 1 hour.

(Your English is a little confusing here. Do you want to say that Rayethon employees manipulated the plane and then went on the plane to die in it?? Suicide technicians?? I am sure you had to laugh at that silly idea yourself when you had it)
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Thos employees were selected to produce the equipments and they accepted the orders, they are obliged to accept. May be their superiors explained tham that the devemlopment was technological and will be used for future automatic control of the plane!? But after the strieks, those employees could make the relation with their own work and tell it in public! To avoid that, their superiors planned a travel on the day of 9/11/2001 on board of one of the planes. So the team who developped the secret control system died in the events.

Oystein said:
As I told you, the maintenance data of these planes are deleted from international databases.

Are the PEOPLE deleted who did that maintenance? Are the PEOPLE deleted who manipulated the plane? Are the PEOPLE deleted who deleted the maintenance data? Do you have an estimate about how many people we are talking about here? Dozends? Hundreds?
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To delet the maintenance database, ONLY ONE PEOPLE is enough. A justice investigation should explain it.
 
Crazytimes said:
Yes, please pick ONE single lie. I know this never works when I ask for ONE single lie or your BEST piece of "evidence" but since you are a MUSLIM researcher maybe I will get a different answer than -

"Larry Silverstein (dirty jew) said to pull it"

or

"Fire doesn't melt steel"

or

"People heard explosions"

and so on and so on.
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The lie of the official reports is easy and huge and it's contained in my web site, but you probably did not read nor tried to understand; that's human!

The main lie of the official reports is about the structure of the towers; they focused the outer columns and the floor trusses and the hat truss and they minimised or considered as inexistent the core section and the core columns. But the reality is totally different: About 70% to 80% of the structure was the core.

See slides 33 to 42 of my power point file.
 
mehmetin said:
As Muslim I have the motivation to find the truth. That's all.
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Let's be honest here; what you're really saying is, "As a Muslim I have the motivation to prove my Muslim brothers innocent."

Let's be even more honest; you're not merely motivated to prove their innocence, you actually find it impossible, in your own mind, that they could be guilty. You believe and have always believed that your brothers were innocent.

Now, given that, the problem is that the statement above does not require that their innocence be the truth. Your belief is so strong that you've taken up abusing logic, ignoring evidence, and fantasizing in an attempt to justify to others your belief in their innocence.
 
mehmetin said:
Sure the technicians have acces to all parts of the plane. It's also sure that the same accesses could be given to the members of the perpetrators to acces to some areas and install the equipments!
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Yes, but it is difficult to do without rasing suspicion, and practically impossible without being detected during pre-flight check.

mehmetin said:
I must only explain that this is possible. Do you have any argument that proves what I explain is impossible? Can you tell us that such installation is impossible? NO! Definitely No.
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YES! You definitely HAVE to provide evidence for this being true! A million things are possible, like an army of midges hidden in the carry-on luggage, space-based nuclear lasers, or the whole thing being a Truman-Show-style hoax of YOUR entire life. However all of these possibilities are exceedingly unlikely, ridiculously complicated, and unsupported by evidence - JUST LIKE YOURS!
You asked us to refute your claims by only using material evidence and logic.
So where is your material evidence?

mehmetin said:
Thos employees were selected to produce the equipments and they accepted the orders, they are obliged to accept. May be their superiors explained tham that the devemlopment was technological and will be used for future automatic control of the plane!? But after the strieks, those employees could make the relation with their own work and tell it in public! To avoid that, their superiors planned a travel on the day of 9/11/2001 on board of one of the planes. So the team who developped the secret control system died in the events.
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And where is your evidence that any of this is true? Material evidence, mehmetin?

To delet the maintenance database, ONLY ONE PEOPLE is enough. A justice investigation should explain it.[/QUOTE]

WRONG. You'd need at least TWO people for that, since we are talking about TWO airlines here.
But mehmetin, why did you ignore the rest of my question? Did your muslim conscience tell you to weasle out of this and hope I would not spot your trick? Please also estimate the number of the following collaborators (I quote from my previous post):
Are the PEOPLE deleted who did that maintenance? Are the PEOPLE deleted who manipulated the plane?
 
mehmetin said:
The lie of the official reports is easy and huge and it's contained in my web site, but you probably did not read nor tried to understand; that's human!

The main lie of the official reports is about the structure of the towers; they focused the outer columns and the floor trusses and the hat truss and they minimised or considered as inexistent the core section and the core columns. But the reality is totally different: About 70% to 80% of the structure was the core.

See slides 33 to 42 of my power point file.
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Yeah right, you won't admit that you're a terrorist sympathizer & you dodge the question: "Are you a terrorist sympathizer?"

You think I'm an "Israeli terrorist symapthizer"? I could care less about what goes on in Israel, I'd rather focus on my own country.
 
Crazytimes said:
Strange thing happened to me yesterday. I took a flight from Tampa Florida, connecting in Atlanta Georgia then on to my final destination in Austin Texas. When I landed in Georgia to get on my next plane I turned my phone on to see if I received any work emails or calls. I forgot to turn the phone off and in mid air, halfway to Austin I got a text message from a co worker in Tampa. I quickly turned my phone off.

We were cruising at 35,000 feet. How on earth would I have received that mesage ?

I am very tempted to take a picture of the text message, provide my flight times and prove you wrong once again but I am not going to go through the effort. Everyone else here has done a great job of proving you wrong and you dismiss it beause you hate jews.
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That's a lie. The technology does not make that possible today. Typical confusion and disinformation. Agagin everybody should make his own opinion. In other words, disinfo agents are wery well working and they succeeded to create huge confusion about the subject.
 
Crazytimes said:
Strange thing happened to me yesterday. I took a flight from Tampa Florida, connecting in Atlanta Georgia then on to my final destination in Austin Texas. When I landed in Georgia to get on my next plane I turned my phone on to see if I received any work emails or calls. I forgot to turn the phone off and in mid air, halfway to Austin I got a text message from a co worker in Tampa. I quickly turned my phone off.

We were cruising at 35,000 feet. How on earth would I have received that mesage ?

I am very tempted to take a picture of the text message, provide my flight times and prove you wrong once again but I am not going to go through the effort. Everyone else here has done a great job of proving you wrong and you dismiss it beause you hate jews.
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Well that settles it, Mehmetin is wrong on all counts.
 
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