Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

[beachnut]

... Anyway... pilots, feel free to let me know if I'm right or wrong about the Boeing autopilot capabilities circa 2001. I'm looking upon this as a learning experience.

Need to target buildings about a mile wide to hit with systems on the planes on 911. The planes on 911 did not have GPS, and the INS systems would be about 1/4 mile accurate, not good enough to hit the 207 foot WTC, almost good enough for the 900 foot Pentagon.

Using on board systems to hit the WTC and Pentagon would require a final approach of ILS accuracy, which would have trouble with the METAL WTC towers. The ILS requires ground systems to be installed, properly. In Die Hard 3, the ILS does not work the way the terrorists used it to crash a plane by tampering with fantasy parameters.

An ILS would be accurate to feet, but it has to be engaged with proper proceudres. I am use to using older systems, and to couple the ILS to the autopilot requires meeting conditions. I never trusted the ILS flown by the autopilot, it gave the autopilot lots of control, and could not fly better than me. Imagine getting a bad signal near the ground and the plane dives ...

Whenever he says remote control, I see ...

It would be cheaper to hire suicide jihadists to crash planes than forking out billions of dollars to make a remote control system.



Do you spend a 2.4 Billion dollars making up a remote control plane to look and act exactly like an airliner with DNA, and all the exact aircraft parts, that has fake people board, and takes off from real airports; OR
Do you spend 4,000,000 dollars over 10 years supporting 20 terrorists, paying for flight school for 4, and buying knives.

With the 2.41 Billion dollars you have hundreds of people who are in on it, and they want to be supported for life...
With the 4 million dollars, you have 20 dead (19 on 911) dolts, and they only want 72 Virginians to kick their butts in heaven; say hello to Thomas Jefferson fools.

Why is the complex plot of 911 too hard for these guys to understand?
Was it the number of steps?
Step 1. Take planes.
Step 2. Crash planes.

One step too many for 911 truth to comprehend.

 

[Crazytimes]

So I didn't get an answer to my question. I will try again. Have Muslims been responsible for any terrorist attacks since 911 ?

 

[kookbreaker]

Not to encourage the goodness but what kind of killer gas are we talking about here?

Because the fast acting ones do nasty stuff to the nervous system.

You think some blood would be a problem? Try a pilot flailing his arms and legs out of control.

 

[tsig]

Not to encourage the goodness but what kind of killer gas are we talking about here?

Because the fast acting ones do nasty stuff to the nervous system.

You think some blood would be a problem? Try a pilot flailing his arms and legs out of control.

It's nano-gas. The gas particles are so small they go right thru the skin and in fact any known substance and kill in nano seconds.

 

[Thunder]

so, when do we get to finally meet this Muslim researcher?

 

[Justin39640]

You are the first people who tried to give the times on that graphic. You deserves to be studied better.

1- Where did you found these times?
2- The times needed for level off are 17, 19, 26, 20 minutes, the times for deviation from their routes are 15, 28, 34, 53 minutes. That gives the time between level off and deviation -2, -9, 7, 33 minutes. We can simply tell that there was no relation between the level off and the deviation. So the level off times are irrelevant.

We still not explained the succession of the hijacks. Can you consider the possibility to make the hijacks by one team using automatic control system like tomahawk system? As you seem to be pilot, you'll give us better analysis!

At least in the case of the Towers, the idea was to crash one plane, make sure everyone (including TV) was watching, crash second plane next door. It's called terrorism. 19 Muslim men operating on a perverse interpretation of Islam took over and crashed four planes in suicide attacks.

Pretty simple.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

Why in God's name would a Tomahawk guidance system be required?

Because it's a WEAPONS GRADE GUIDANCE SYSTEM!!!1!. It must be better, right?

Of course, it takes weapons grade stupidity to make the claim in the first place so I guess using a weapons grade component only make sense...

Of course what our truthy friend here doesn't know is that a Tomahawk missile (and therefore by default its guidance system) is autonomous after being launched so his whole idea about the planes being controlled one at a time is ludicrous to say the least.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Your scenario nearly good, except that :
- There is no reason to tell the pilots not to touch the control. If they touch, it will change nothing; the pilots will not stop the engines; they don"t know it will happen.

A good reason to tell the pilots not to touch the controls is to prevent them from resetting the transponder code to the hijack signal. The hijackers included trained pilots and would have been aware of this possibility. Therefore, your first objection is rejected.

- Even if asked, at least one of the pilots will key the hijack code, this is the minimum that a pilot will do before leave the seat!

Pure speculation; and I would suspect that the pilots were not politely asked to please leave their seats as soon as they'd finished with any little jobs they happened to be engaged in, but ordered to get their hands away from the controls immediately or someone would die. Therefore, your second objection is rejected.

Dave

 

[firecoins]

Once the OP identifies the researcher as a Muslim, we know the claim that Israel did it was coming.

I find it kind of racist/anti-semetic on 2 counts. First is the need to blame Jews, usually without evidence and second the idea that some how Muslims are incapable of pulling it off. The second idea being claimed by a Muslim mystifies me even further.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

Besides being a bigot you are incredibly stupid Zalewski is a Polish name, Bazant is a Hungarian one and Timmerman a German one. Bazant wrote his paper with Yong Zhou I imagine you are not so ignorant as to think that is "a Jew people name"

You mean he's not a chinese jew from the lost tribe? I'm shocked!!

 

[nvidiot]

Heck I've got a Jewish last name, but afaik last time anyone considered themselves "Jewish" in my family was more than a century ago, and even then is was about ethnic origins not religion.

But people like our lovely researcher here don't want facts to get in the way of a good Jew bashing.

 

[mehmetin]

Really?

So who installed this super secret system?

At what point in the aircraft's maintenance history did this take place?

How long did it take to perform?

How do you connect this tomahawk flight system to the individual wire looms and actuators, control system and power systems when the two are going to be different specifications?

How big is a tomahawk control system and where in an aircraft could it be fitted? How did "the Jews" get hold of one?

Were the aircraft tested with such systems in place? How and where?

You have good question. The installation of the equipment had to be made by a secret team settled for the purpose of making the strikes. Justice should identify the people who were members of that team. But that team could the secret team in the orders of Rumsfeld! Remember, there was such a team.

The install of the equipment had to be made during one of the last maintenance operation, or during one of the last stop time of the planes. The planes could fly normally some flights with these equipments installed on board. Whatever it’s, the maintenance data of these planes were quickly erased from international databases. We can tell, the maintenance database is related to the strikes and evidence is deleted.

If the study is made very good, the install time could be as short as one hour. The equipment should be placed in the nose of the plane. So the operations are :
1- Open the nose cover.
2- Install three servo motors fitting 3 or 4 bolts per servo.
3- Install the control box.
4- Fix the small gas tank.
5- Plug the servos’ cables to the control box.
6- Plug the electricity power supply by inserting a male/female plug.
7- Make a quick test.
8- Open the manual valve of the gas tank.
9- Close the nose cover.

The system was designed by Raytheon, there were 5 employees of Raytheon on board of the planes, and three of them could be the team who produced the system, see David Kovalcin. They were probably sent on board to remove the main eyewitnesses.

They had to produce only one system and test it on one B757 or B767 cockpit.
Sure, there are some unanswered questions. Those questions should be answered by Justice. What I can tell is that this is possible, reliable, easy, and is consistent with all known evidence. There are still some evidence to be gathered by justice.

What size of container is needed to hold the required amount of sleeping/nerve/knock out gas you are proposing?

How was this gas delivered and what systems were used? I presume you are saying it was pumped through the air circulation systems. If so how was this gas system installed?

How was the system activated? Was it on a timer? An altitude meter? Remote controlled?

How did maintenance mechanics and engineers for United Airlines or their maintenance subcontractors miss all this extra kit?

I am not specialist of military gas. I just know that Sarin gas could be used. We can roughly estimate the container to 1 liter pressurized. It had one electro valve and a manual valve. The electrovalve is opened by the missile control system, a digital output is needed. It was activated immediately when the system was switched on by satellite communication. That’s why the pilots were dead immediately, within less than 16 seconds.

You do understand that there are strict protocols for for work carried out at overhaul and that these periods of overhaul/maintenance are carried out by trained personnel to FAA/CAA/UA and Boeing regulations, standards and procedures.

Each inspection/overhaul/change of or to the aircraft would have to be "signed off" not only by the individuals performing the tasks but also inspectors and other engineers.

Are you suggesting an overhaul company or UA overhaul are complicit in this act? If so which one?

I doubt you have answers to these questions. I suggest you do some serious research how aircraft are built and maintained.

If you have a secret military team entering into an airport for any false reason, or getting there during night, nobody will stop them. A justice investigation should be made to identify the place and the moment of installation of these equipments.

But all known strong evidence is consistent with such installation.

 

[alienentity]

You have good question. The installation of the equipment had to be made by a secret team settled for the purpose of making the strikes. ...
But all known strong evidence is consistent with such installation.

There is no strong evidence of any kind to support this idea.

There is just as much evidence that an alien force from outside the solar system took over the jets. And planted all the fake evidence at the crash sites, and destroyed the buildings.

That's just as plausible as your secret unknown ninja strikeforce theory. I would go so far as to say you may even be in the control of the space aliens, and they've commandeered your brain to make you write things which are deceptive.

My evidence is that you make no sense, and you ignore the facts.

 

[mehmetin]

Why in God's name would a Tomahawk guidance system be required? Hey Beechnut, Reheat, and other pilots: If a jet was merely to fly a guided path, doesn't the autopilot that Boeing jets have already have the capacity to handle waypoints to a destination?

Autopilot has such capabilities. But the human pilots can reverse the operation, so it was necessary to add another system to control the gassing of the pilots. Also, the use of autopilot requires modifying the native systems of the planes; such operation is dangerous and may create problems in the plane.

But using specially designed external system that only replaces the movements of the pilots is too much more reliable, easy, can be checked outside, and does not change anything in the plane.

 

[alienentity]

Ever wonder what happens when people watch too many Hollywood movies and are unable to separate fantasy from fact? This thread happens...

 

[mehmetin]

No, that is incorrect. Not all the planes were traveling at 10km altitude, so it was in fact possible for cell phones to work.

You specifically said no phone calls could be made at 10km altitude. That is incorrect - they can be made using airphones. Below 10km, cellphones will sometimes work.

At least on UA93 some calls were made at about 10000m altitude. These are impossible. So phone calls were computer made. You have no evidence to debunk that. You have no evidence that could prove that's wrong.

 

[alienentity]

At least on UA93 some calls were made at about 10000m altitude. These are impossible. So phone calls were computer made. You have no evidence to debunk that. You have no evidence that could prove that's wrong.

Which calls and by whom? You need to support your claim.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

At least on UA93 some calls were made at about 10000m altitude. These are impossible. So phone calls were computer made. You have no evidence to debunk that. You have no evidence that could prove that's wrong.

Here's proof that 2 witnesses saw Flight 93 before it crashed:

http://www.wtae.com/news/966339/detail.html

(Bill) Wright said that he knew that there was a problem when air traffic controllers asked him to give them Flight 93's altitude.


Wright thinks there's only one reason air traffic controllers in Cleveland would have been asking him about the altitude. He said that it was probably because the terrorists had cut off all radio transmissions to air traffic controllers.

"We figured there was a hijacking in progress, and we were seeing it happening, but that's all we knew," Wright said.

Wright got another clue when he and his passenger saw the path that the plane was taking.
"(It) went behind us. (We) lost sight for a while and when it came back (the passenger) said, 'It's turning toward us. Now it's turning away. Now turning back toward us.' So it was rocking its wings.

"It would bank hard left, bank hard right and then back to hard left. We saw it bank three or four times before we got away from it."

Wright said that may have been when several passengers were fighting back against the terrorists.

"The story of the plane being taken over, that fits," Wright said.

As for the "fake" phone calls, there's no evidence to prove that theory to be true.

 

[mehmetin]

Need to target buildings about a mile wide to hit with systems on the planes on 911. The planes on 911 did not have GPS, and the INS systems would be about 1/4 mile accurate, not good enough to hit the 207 foot WTC, almost good enough for the 900 foot Pentagon.

Tomahawk control system contains the GPS and all required software HW to fly the plane with required precision. Only the servos controlling the wing surfaces shouldbe changed to put bigger ones.

Consider that.

 

[mehmetin]

So I didn't get an answer to my question. I will try again. Have Muslims been responsible for any terrorist attacks since 911 ?

I answered that question in an answer to other people. I clearly told, YES, some Muslims made some terror attacks. For example Theo Van Gogh murder, recent sweden bomb, Moscow airport attack, ...