Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

[mehmetin]

Your claims are not backed with facts and evidence and make zero sense. Your time line stuff does not support anything. What was your point? 19 terrorists did it, I can see their poor flying inputs in the FDR; the worse pilots I have seen, the only thing they can do is crash.

You are the first people who tried to give the times on that graphic. You deserves to be studied better.

1- Where did you found these times?
2- The times needed for level off are 17, 19, 26, 20 minutes, the times for deviation from their routes are 15, 28, 34, 53 minutes. That gives the time between level off and deviation -2, -9, 7, 33 minutes. We can simply tell that there was no relation between the level off and the deviation. So the level off times are irrelevant.

We still not explained the succession of the hijacks. Can you consider the possibility to make the hijacks by one team using automatic control system like tomahawk system? As you seem to be pilot, you'll give us better analysis!

 

[uke2se]

We still not explained the succession of the hijacks.

What's there to explain? Rational people (even those of moderate intelligence) understand how the hijackers did it. That you don't is nobody's problem but your own.

Can you consider the possibility to make the hijacks by one team using automatic control system like tomahawk system? As you seem to be pilot, you'll give us better analysis!

Why consider fantasy for which there is absolutely no evidence?

 

[mehmetin]

Pilots are sitting at the front of the plane, in a small space, facing forward, the control column is right at their hands and extends to the floor.

Terrorists run into the cockpit and cut the pilots throats, from behind. Not a lot of time to put in a code, let alone key the mic.

How can you know that the throats of pilots were cut? You have no evidence to support that.

Do you have any clue how to set a hijack code? 8 pilots failed because they were dying. These murderers you apologize for killed 8 pilots and any passengers or crew who resisted them, they did not ask you to move, they killed you. They did not ask the pilots to get out, they killed them.

It’s better ask the pilots to leave the seat before killing them. Making so they will get no blood anywhere, no need to lift the bodies of the pilots to get them out. In practice, such arguments of throats cutting are just to make everything possible, while everything is not possible.

By reverse, the gassing of the pilots is possible, and is the easiest and safest manner to kill the pilots within 16 seconds.

The only way the plot can succeed is to remove the pilots, the only people on board who can render the planes incapable of flight in seconds! They had to kill the pilots in seconds, or they might fail.

No pilot will stop the planes in the air within so short decision. They should evaluate the situation before stop the engines. And before that, they’ll key the hijack code.

The terrorists did not care if the pilots set the hijack codes.

Sure the terrorists will not care the set of hijack codes. So in case of terrorists, the pilots should be able to key the codes.

 

[mehmetin]

Except for the Jews, right?

No! Everybody is equal. Only their actions separate each other. If you do good, you become good, of you do wrong, you become wrong. It's so simple.

BTW, I don't hate you or anyone else.

Same for me. But I must tell the conclusions of my research. I will not lie to hide the involvement of any group.

If you have a problem with Israel and some its policies pertaining to the Palestinians, fair enough.

This is not the problem. Israelis are not killing ONLY Palestinians. They also kill people from whole world. Are you accepting Israel to kill americans? See "Israeli Spy Ring".

It's become clear to me despite your protestations to the contrary that you began with an assumption of innocence on the part of the 19 Muslim hijackers and then worked your way backwards,

I told you the sequence of my investigation. I am not lying when I told that, and I decided to not more lie. So, please consider my statements as my own truth. In fact, you can search all my post in the past and you can find the sequence of my investigation.

forcing you to cling to laughably absurd theories (you really need to let go of the whole "synchronized attacks" and "tomahawk" nonsense, you are making a fool of yourself).

Before telling "synchronized attacks" and "tomahawk" nonsense, you should study the subject and find strong evidence.

Adults accept unpleasant truths, even if the truth puts members of ones own family/tribe/country/religion in an unfavorable light. Muslims perpetrated the most infamous terrorist attack in history. Accept that and move on with your life. The world has grown too small for your bronze age brand of nonsense. If you can't grow up at least learn to live and let live.

barış

Thanks to repeat the name of my web site in turkish! Your statements here up are my statements, axcept that Muslims did not make 911, the most infamous terrorist attack in history. Sure some Muslims made some other attacks, like Theo Van Gogh murder, like Sweden car bomb, like Moscow airport bombing, ... But not 911, not 3/11 Madrid, not 7/7 London, not also others, but this is a longer subject.

 

[uke2se]

How can you know that the throats of pilots were cut? You have no evidence to support that.

You have no right to ask for evidence as you provide none of your own. The scenario of the pilots having their throats cut (or wrestled from the controls, or stabbed or whatever) is considerably more likely than your ridiculous assertion that the terrorists would have asked the pilots to leave their seats.

It’s better ask the pilots to leave the seat before killing them.

No, it's not. That's just stupid.

Making so they will get no blood anywhere, no need to lift the bodies of the pilots to get them out.

Making sure to increase the risk of the pilots sending a distress call exponentially. As I said, that's just stupid. These fundamentalist Muslim monsters didn't care if there was blood everywhere.

In practice, such arguments of throats cutting are just to make everything possible, while everything is not possible.

In practice, arguments that the terrorists should have asked the pilots to leave their seats are just to promote a bigoted and racist world view based on no evidence. It is also stupid.

By reverse, the gassing of the pilots is possible,

But has no evidence supporting it.

and is the easiest and safest manner to kill the pilots within 16 seconds.

They didn't need to kill them within 16 seconds. They only had to make sure they didn't send a distress call.

No pilot will stop the planes in the air within so short decision. They should evaluate the situation before stop the engines. And before that, they’ll key the hijack code.

And they didn't because the hijackers overwhelmed them. You have no evidence for any other scenario.

Sure the terrorists will not care the set of hijack codes. So in case of terrorists, the pilots should be able to key the codes.

The terrorists relied on shock and awe. They needed control of the planes quickly to prevent being hindered by flight crew or passengers. The best way to go about this is with maximum brutality, and not by asking nicely.

 

[mehmetin]

Make up your mind.

Do not miss my words. To control the planes by using on board automatic system, the pilots should be killed immediately within seconds. And that's what happened, precisely 16 seconds for killing pilots in AA11, this is teh official report statement.

If there were 4 teams, the pilots could still live during some minutes making possible the set of hijack codes.

 

[mehmetin]

Pete Zalewski is a Jew People. I am also a Jew People.

You do good by telling the truth.

The Jew People did not commit 9/11. The Mulsim People in the group known as the Al Qeda people did it.

You ahve no evidence to support that. And you can find on my web site www.peace911.org that Muslims are NOT involved in 9/11. By reverse, too many Jew people were involved in these horrible attacks.

If you want to defend Jews, you are welcome. But you should debunk my work on web site.

19 Muslim hijacked 4 aircraft and crashed 3 of them into buildings. They were indeed on the passenger lists. They were video taped getting into the planes.Tear Gas was used to in at least 1 of the attack according to flight attendat Betty Ong's phone call on flight 11. Betty Ong also identified where the hijackers were sitting. We know who did it. Mossad and Israel and the "Jew People" had nothing to do with it. Sorry.

Phone calls are impossible from the planes flying at 10000m altitude. By reverse, voice changing softwares can produce live conversation of any people.

Sorry, you should debunk my work first. Then I am ready to change my opinion and apologise. You are Jew, and I am sincere Muslim. I challange you, debunk my work, and I'll apologise.

 

[mehmetin]

Are you a Jew pretending to be a Muslim?

I am always telling the truth, I am Muslim. Do not imagine any manipulation, just take my words as they are. It's so simple.

 

[mehmetin]

You did not provide any material evidence or compelling logic.

You did not provide any material evidence or compelling logic.

This is not true.

You did not provide any material evidence or compelling logic.

You did not provide any material evidence or compelling logic.

I recommend you delete all useless pages from your presentation.

No material evidence, only speculation.

Of course overexposition explains such brightness. Overexposition is DEFINED as "too much brightness". Apparently, you don't understand the basics of digital photography.

I did not find any material evidence that any of the methods, devices and materials that you claim were used were actually used.

This is a bare-assed claim, and it is false. In fact, when the four teams hijack planes that had scheduled take-off within 45 minutes of one another, such overlaps can be expected as one of the most likely timelines! Otherwise, simple coincidence would suffice as explanation. This is what others have described as the "Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy". If you don't know what it is, look it up in the English Wikipedia. It is the fallacy of interpreting a coincidental event or series events ex post as having occurred according to some pattern or plan. The fact is, that any random sequence of events that is played only once can be made to fit some pattern, even though that pattern is not the explanation for the sequence.

Your logic is seriously flawed!

My logic is strong. You should try to debunk it by using strong arguments, not only biased arguments.

The initial take offs were designed for 21 minutes delay, one of them was delayed by 41 minutes, the terrorists could not foresee that delay, even with that the succession of the hijacks was PERFECT!

Please explain that, how and why the succession of teh hijacks was perfect?

 

[alienentity]

Phone calls are impossible from the planes flying at 10000m altitude.

Sorry, you should debunk my work first.

I thought you said you always tell the truth. But you didn't do that above!!

Phonecalls are certainly possible from planes fly at 10Km. They use airphones.

There, I've debunked some of your work, and reminded you not to tell lies. Just as a good Imam would do for you.

Assalamu Alakum

 

[alienentity]

Fact: People used airphones to call and report hijackings;

'Flight attendant Robert Fangman, as well as two passengers (Peter Hanson and Brian David Sweeney) made phone calls from United Airlines Flight 175, using GTE airphones, from the rear of the aircraft. Airphone records also indicate that Garnet Bailey made four phone call attempts, trying to reach his wife.
Flight attendant Robert Fangman called a United Airlines office in San Francisco at 08:52, and spoke with Marc Policastro. Fangman reported the hijacking, and said that the hijackers were likely flying the plane. He also said that both pilots were dead, and that a flight attendant was stabbed. After a minute and 15 seconds, Fangman's call was disconnected. Policastro subsequently made attempts to contact the aircraft's cockpit using the Aircraft Communication Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) message system.'

There are airphone records of these calls. Your denials are not worthy of a good Muslim.

 

[DGM]

. And before that, they’ll key the hijack code.

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You seem obsessed with this idea. What do you think happens (in 2001) when a pilot does this?

 

[mehmetin]

Personally, I would tell them to take their hands away from the controls, and make it clear that I would cut the throat of the young and pretty flight stewardess that I was holding hostage for the purpose. I would then tell them to get out of their seats, again without touching the controls. Then, I might or might not get my three friends to kill them, depending on what was the least trouble.

It's not exactly pleasant to imagine that, but it's far from difficult.

Dave

Sure, it's not pleasant to imagine that. But we must do it for the truth, for justice, for the victimes and for the humanity.

Your scenario nearly good, except that :
- There is no reason to tell the pilots not to touch the control. If they touch, it will change nothing; the pilots will not stop the engines; they don"t know it will happen.
- Even if asked, at least one of the pilots will key the hijack code, this is the minimum that a pilot will do before leave the seat!

 

[mehmetin]

Originally Posted by mehmetin

Phone calls are impossible from the planes flying at 10000m altitude.

I thought you said you always tell the truth. But you didn't do that above!!

Phonecalls are certainly possible from planes fly at 10Km. They use airphones.

Some calls were made by their cellular phones, the wife recognised the phone number of her husband, they did not use airphone. So, this phone call was computer made.

In practice, all phone calls had to be made by voice changing software. If one phone call is fake and computer made, all phone calls should be computer made. That's also consistent with all crew and passengers gassed. In other words, phone calls are NOT evidence.

 

[DGM]

- Even if asked, at least one of the pilots will key the hijack code, this is the minimum that a pilot will do before leave the seat!

In a 767/757 what is the exact procedure to do this and how long does it take. Can you do this without someone (standing next to you) noticing? You do know that if someone does see you doing this they can simply turn the transponder off.

 

[A W Smith]

I can give you some amount of credibility. But why and how the companies published a victims' list, which is the passengers list with removed unknown terrorists' names? At that time, the terrorists were not identified, so it was impossible for them to remove those names.

Any way, that's a meaningless small detail in my work. It does not deserve to be discussed more. It can be true or wrong, it changes nothing in my conclusions. I won't waste time on such minor questions.

Your BS had been debunked in 2006 here, Why is it you hate Jews? Is it because since 1948 they turned what was desert wasteland into a thriving green country? something you Turks and Arabs couldn't accomplish in 3000 years? Sucks to be part of an entire race of underachievers huh?
Here's your passenger lists we have had for years now

 

[beachnut]

How can you know that the throats of pilots were cut? You have no evidence to support that.

Wrong, there is evidence to support dead pilots - you failed to research 911 and make up lies to apologize for murderers.

The pilots were dead, if you don't kill them in seconds they will kill you, they will stop you. Guess why the pilots were killed while sitting facing forward? Because if you get to see the idiots who were hijacking you, you would figure out who they were, and fight them. They were dumb looking, and when 3 or 4 dumb looking terrorists show up on the cockpit, you would beat them up on GPs. Did you look at those terrorists, they were ugly, the bottom of the barrel, the only Islamic misfits too stupid to do anything but cut throats and die, kill themselves; how pathetic UBL is, and you weak support is right up there with failure. UBL forgot to read the DI - UBL and Hitler, too losers.

I am a pilot, and there is no way I would give up my seat, even to a hijacker before 911. It means I am dead anyway, if I give up my seat to someone. I am in-charge of the fight, it is my plane; period.

I can disable the plane in a few seconds. If you don't kill me in seconds, I will stop you. I am a pilot, you make up lies with no logic, you use hate.

It’s better ask the pilots to leave the seat before killing them.

Wrong, I would not leave my seat, if asked to leave my seat, I will attack and kill them first. You have no idea the responsibility of the pilot in command. If you asked me to leave my seat, I would refuse. Guess what, you would have to kill me.

Sad thing is terrorist leaders are not as ignorant on this as you are. The terrorist leaders know the pilot is like, exactly like the Captain of a Ship. The pilot in the left seat, the Captain, will take action to protect the passengers.

You made up delusions of gas, the most idiotic claim there can be, along with beam weapons, and nukes. Dumb.

Making so they will get no blood anywhere, no need to lift the bodies of the pilots to get them out.

Blood? The terrorists don't care if they sit in blood, they are going to kill themselves too, have you paid attention the past 9 years?
It does not matter if you spew the blood all over! You have no point!

Blood? You have no idea what terrorist do. To the Islamic terrorists the pilots are non-believers, and killing them is the lunatics ticket to heaven. Blood would be nothing, it would be a red badge of insane martyrdom for the dolts fooled into committing the act.

In practice, such arguments of throats cutting are just to make everything possible, while everything is not possible.

Wrong! If you are going to take planes and fly them, you have to kill the pilots first. On 911 we know the terrorists cut throats and killed people, eye witnesses from the planes passed on this information before they were murdered by Islamic terrorists mislead by UBL and their own hate.

Hold still, let me kill you with gas. Please mr pilot get out of the seat! NO

Evidence makes you wrong, again.

By reverse, the gassing of the pilots is possible, and is the easiest and safest manner to kill the pilots within 16 seconds.

Gassing pilots would crash the planes one way or another. There is no remote control on the planes. Who makes up these insane claims? The Islamic terrorists cut throats, they trained for it, they did it. Sorry, you must not understand the terrorists, as you weakly apologize for them, those who murdered on 911; 19 solely responsible for 911.

Gassing is the one of the dumbest claims - pure nonsense.

No pilot will stop the planes in the air within so short decision. They should evaluate the situation before stop the engines. And before that, they’ll key the hijack code.

With a cut throat the pilots were unable to enter a code, or talk, except on Flight 93, the pilots keyed the mic while dying and being killed by the incompetent Islamic terrorist team who failed. The weak team on 93, they killed a flight attendant, she begged for her life. You failed again.

The Islami terrorists failed when everyone knew the rules of the game, the rules of hate in the name of Islam! Lucky it was not Tim McVeigh, he would just blow it up and run.

You are right, a pilot would have to figure out why they wanted both pilots out of the seat. And I would disable the aircraft and see how good the new pilots are; but then I do stupid stuff, and I can restart the engines in seconds, can you? I have shut down engines while flying and I restart them. The plane will glide a long way, over 100 miles. If asked to leave, FORCED to leave my seat, I would disable the plane - in seconds - let us see how good the Ilamic red scarfed dolt pilots are with an emergency.

Sure the terrorists will not care the set of hijack codes. So in case of terrorists, the pilots should be able to key the codes.

Pilots will set the hijack code when hijacked when they can - looks like if the pilots never knew they were being hijacked and died before they figured out what was going on. They died in their seats and two hijackers dragged their dying bodies over the seat back and stacked them like their NAZI bothers stacked the murdered bodies in the past. The Islamic terrorists are just NAZIs from another religion, hating Jews, taking it out on the USA.

You just proved the pilots were killed before they could set the hijacked code. OOPS, your failed logic is debunking your insane claims.

19 weak minded dolts signed up to kill in the name of God, a name they can't even say. Weak failures trained to hate Jews and America. Dumb dolts too stupid to do more than crash aircraft, too dumb to be good pilots, just slightly better than the pilots for truth.
Why do you support 19 murderers by making up lies?

 

[mehmetin]

In a 767/757 what is the exact procedure to do this and how long does it take. Can you do this without someone (standing next to you) noticing? You do know that if someone does see you doing this they can simply turn the transponder off.

They can turn the transponder, after the code is set, job is done. And the code is specially studied to make it easy to key.

Just be right, there is no reason to make 8 pilots unable to key that short code. You should accept that definitely.

 

[DGM]

They can turn the transponder, after the code is set, job is done. And the code is specially studied to make it easy to key.

Just be right, there is no reason to make 8 pilots unable to key that short code. You should accept that definitely.

Turn off the transponder the code is no longer received

For your convenience a 767 cockpit. Now which knob are they turning without being noticed?

 

[beachnut]

They can turn the transponder, after the code is set, job is done. And the code is specially studied to make it easy to key.

Just be right, there is no reason to make 8 pilots unable to key that short code. You should accept that definitely.

The pilots were killed before they could do anything. Proof, not a single code was set, not a single radio call was made, except on 93, the pilot dying was holding the mic key, and everyone heard him crying as he and the first officer were being killed by mislead Islamic failures.

Where is the transponder, Praise be to Allah? Got any clue why 8 pilots were unable to do a three second task? Or was it on a digital face, which takes longer than tumbling the numbers. Clue: they were dead.

You have no idea, the pilots can tell ATC they were being hijacked on the RADIO, and we could do it without the idiot Islamic terrorists knowing we did it. It was not done on 911 because the pilots were not asked to get up, they were surprised by their throats being cut, do you know how noisy it is in a cockpit, and the pilots never heard they running to kill them.

Pilots failed to do anything on 911 to save the planes, they were killed before they turned around to see who was killing them. This is the only way 19 failures had a chance to poorly fly and crash planes they took by murdering people, to murder more people because that is all they are worth to UBL, to work for a spoiled brat who can't do it himself, so he fools the dumb followers to do his insane work of hate.

You make up fantasy because you hate Jews, you make up lies, why?

Do you think the terrorists asked the pilots to leave their seats? They will not leave, and they would stop the plot! Can you imagine the crazy Islamic suicide terrorists taking planes by asking so very nice, "Please mr pilot, get out of seat, so we can crash planes". "Thank you very much".