The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

Sabretooth said:
I imagine that most Toofer theories orginate while they are tripping on THC.

I mean...

Laserz?! From space?! Dustification?!

CD?! Without Explosives?!

Missiles?!

No planes at all??!?!

Every theory is batcrap crazy.
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Did they go hit Taco Bell for some melty treats after they came up with all this?
 
Regnad Kcin said:
This is the conspiracy:
  • The plan is to create and carry out, in secret, an attack on multiple targets in the US, made to appear to be the work of religious extremists from the Middle East (Difficulty Rating: high)
  • The plan (here defined by what ended up taking place, although it would likely start as something broader and be refined along the way) must be conceived and shared with at least one person, both of whom must carry the secret forever, risking careers, family, probably the death penalty, as well as the same for co-conspirators who would be implicated in short order (DR: high)
  • The plan must be conceived and outlined, creating some kind of paper and/or electronic trail[*

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  • So you are basically saying that 19 bearded caveman from Afghanistan were able to carry out the 9/11 conspiracy but somehow the CIA/Mossad was not.

    I find that opinion borderline anti-semitic. :mad:

    Jesse Ventura is not convinced either, he goes in the overdrive:

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep2/new-ventura-book.html

    You can buy his book in April 2011.
 
9/11-investigator said:
So you are basically saying that 19 bearded caveman from Afghanistan were able to carry out the 9/11 conspiracy but somehow the CIA/Mossad was not.

I find that opinion borderline anti-semitic. :mad:
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the CIA/Mossad's plan was impossible. The "bearded caveman from Afghanistan's" was not. I find your opinion borderline idiotic.

ETA: Jessie Ventura is more than just borderline idiotic
 
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Isn't this whole argument from incredulity thread a fail?

Argument from incredulity:

P is too incredible (or I cannot imagine how P could possibly be true); therefore P must be false.

(source: wikipedia)
 
Quiproquo said:
Isn't this whole argument from incredulity thread a fail?

Argument from incredulity:

P is too incredible (or I cannot imagine how P could possibly be true); therefore P must be false.

(source: wikipedia)
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Well, then. You try to build your case that the events of 9/11 where actually an inside job of some kind.

Then count the number of arguments from incredulity and other fallacies (*) you used along thw way.

You lose.


*) It's better to count the number of logically sound arguments you used along the way: counting to zero is way easier.
 
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Quiproquo said:
Isn't this whole argument from incredulity thread a fail?

Argument from incredulity:

P is too incredible (or I cannot imagine how P could possibly be true); therefore P must be false.

(source: wikipedia)
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Sometimes things are impossible (or so improbable that a reasonable person must assume they are impossible) until proven possible, especially when the burden of proof is concerned. Truthers are not only claiming it was possible, but that it happened. They have the burden of proof.

If it is possible, how did it happen?

If one can give rational reasons why something would be impossible beyond simple incredulity, it's not an argument from incredulity.
 
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Quiproquo said:
Isn't this whole argument from incredulity thread a fail?

Argument from incredulity:

P is too incredible (or I cannot imagine how P could possibly be true); therefore P must be false.

(source: wikipedia)
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Let me know when the truthers put together a consistent narrative that fits all the known facts.

Over 9 years since 9/11, and still nothing from truthers in this regard.
 
9/11-investigator said:
Meanwhile this Jewish-American UN human rights official claims 9/11 was US plot :boggled:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...n-rights-official-claims-911-was-US-plot.html

9/11-trooferism dead? :confused:
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Every day some 13 year old is unleashed on the internet unsupervised, a young adult develops schizophrenia, an old guy develops dementia, or someone recognizes a bunch of easy marks to sell snake oil to. Then there's also those at the bottom 10% on the intelligence scale.

For these reasons, 9/11 truth will live on.
 
Quiproquo said:
Isn't this whole argument from incredulity thread a fail?

Argument from incredulity:

P is too incredible (or I cannot imagine how P could possibly be true); therefore P must be false.

(source: wikipedia)
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Yes.
 
9/11-investigator said:
Meanwhile this Jewish-American UN human rights official claims 9/11 was US plot :boggled:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...n-rights-official-claims-911-was-US-plot.html

9/11-trooferism dead? :confused:
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Falk hardly proves it's alive. He wrote the preface to The New Pearl Harbour back in 2004, so it's not like he's a recent convert. And calling David Ray Griffin a "scholar of high integrity" reveals quite a lot about his judgement, or the lack of it: this guy may have a more appealing CV, but underneath he appears to be about as credible as Jesse Ventura.
 
Quiproquo said:
Isn't this whole argument from incredulity thread a fail?

Argument from incredulity:

P is too incredible (or I cannot imagine how P could possibly be true); therefore P must be false.

(source: wikipedia)
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having read this users posts in the past I know full well he can exaggerate, and often does it for the humor. If you want to be very picky about it then I don't think it's 100% impossible, however, it goes without saying that the conspiracy theorists view complicates what might be otherwise valid alternatives to ridiculous extents. Controlled demolition, Star Wars technology, no planes, come up with what ever you want. In the end what you lack is evidence, and the supposed a case that you guys have against the engineering explanations offered for the collapses of the buildings has failed to reach even a rudimentary level that deserves recognition. In that respect I can understand why the thread was made; it is truther's incompetence that ultimately renders such theories impossible. It is their incompetence that reduces the value of their own evidence and nothing more.
 
Grizzly Bear said:
having read this users posts in the past I know full well he can exaggerate, and often does it for the humor. If you want to be very picky about it then I don't think it's 100% impossible, however, it goes without saying that the conspiracy theorists view complicates what might be otherwise valid alternatives to ridiculous extents. Controlled demolition, Star Wars technology, no planes, come up with what ever you want. In the end what you lack is evidence, and the supposed a case that you guys have against the engineering explanations offered for the collapses of the buildings has failed to reach even a rudimentary level that deserves recognition. In that respect I can understand why the thread was made; it is truther's incompetence that ultimately renders such theories impossible. It is their incompetence that reduces the value of their own evidence and nothing more.
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I've been a member here for four years and I am still waiting for a truther to present a complete theory about 911. All they seem to have is ''It didn't look right'". Less than impressive.
 
9/11-investigator said:
You should abandon the idea that I am here to entertain you.
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Fair enough--I'm sure you have other interests besides hating Jews--as long as you abandon the idea that you have any chance of convincing rational people you are right.
 
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9/11-investigator said:
So you are basically saying that 19 bearded caveman from Afghanistan were able to carry out the 9/11 conspiracy but somehow the CIA/Mossad was not.

I find that opinion borderline anti-semitic. :mad:

Jesse Ventura is not convinced either, he goes in the overdrive:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep2/new-ventura-book.html

You can buy his book in April 2011.
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Typical for your shoddy work and lack of basic research. None of the 19 were cavemen from Afghanistan. Some very basic work which obviously can't be bothered with would have cleared up your error for you. Typical of your kind.
 
twinstead said:
Fair enough--I'm sure you have other interests besides hating Jews--as long as you abandon the idea that you have any chance of convincing rational people you are right.
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'Jew hating' (as a result of loving my civilization) I reserve indeed for this forum.

Oh and I would be very disappointed if I could convince you people (at this stage) of my ideas and as such be robbed of an arena I can use to sharpen my wit.

Carry on, keep attacking me. You are doing fine.
 
9/11-investigator said:
'Jew hating' (as a result of loving my civilization) I reserve indeed for this forum.

Oh and I would be very disappointed if I could convince you people (at this stage) of my ideas and as such be robbed of an arena I can use to sharpen my wit.

Carry on, keep attacking me. You are doing fine.
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Sharpen your wit? You can't sharpen a bowling ball, dude.
 
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