The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

[Sabretooth]

YES - Buried amongst a load of other nonsense here--
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6755566#post6755566

You linked back to a post. What is the original source?

You also said in a previous post that there was no paper trail...now there is?

 

[chipmunk stew]

Fonebone is hanging his whole argument on this May 2002 speech by Robert Mueller:
http://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/fbi-reorganization

He ignores "the treasure trove of information" and clings to "no paper trail".

Three points:

First, further evidence, such as the emails in the trial, were uncovered later.

Second, Mueller is clearly referring to a paper trail that would have given them enough information to anticipate and prevent the attack. As an example of "no paper trail", Mueller states:

They used hundreds of different pay phones and cell phones, often with prepaid calling cards that are extremely difficult to trace. And they made sure that all the money sent to them to fund their attacks was wired in small amounts to avoid detection.

Which obviously left a trail. It's just that they were only able to piece them together AFTER THE ATTACK.

Third, the goal of this speech was to sell the idea of information collaboration and data mining. Underselling the trail of evidence served this purpose.

 

[WildCat]

The FBI states there was no paper trail.
Your hand waving and blasts of hot air are creating a
JREF "chinook" to counter the FBI statement concerning the
absence of a terrorist paper trail. WHY ?
A paper trail that mysteriously appears at a later date could have been
easily "manufactured" to assist a show trail railroading of a patsy or dupe.
Read up on the "magic bullet" theory used in the Kennedy assassination that was concocted (manufactured ) to fit the "evidence". Bic ?

So your evidence that the evidence was faked is that the Kennedy assasination was also faked?

 

[chipmunk stew]

So your evidence that the evidence was faked is that the Kennedy assasination was also faked?

Also, his example of the govt's ability to manufacture a paper trail is a manufactured explanation of evidence.

 

[twinstead]

I think there appears to be a slight misunderstanding on exactly what would constitute evidence that the 9-11 evidence was faked.

 

[Fonebone]

Didn't read most of your post, but this caught my eye.
(snipped)

All of the post's bolding and font impediments have been removed -
Try to see if you can read and comprehend the post now. -Fonebone

 

[Fonebone]

I think there appears to be a slight misunderstanding on exactly what would constitute evidence that the 9-11 evidence was faked.

Please expound your point.

 

[twinstead]

Please expound your point.

You haven't presented any evidence that anything was faked. You disagree. SO, I assume it's just a different definition of evidence. I think yours is wrong, but I'm no expert

 

[Fonebone]

You haven't presented any evidence that anything was faked. You disagree. SO, I assume it's just a different definition of evidence. I think yours is wrong, but I'm no expert

Not so fast Twinstead --
I provided evidence that the FBI "terrorist timeline" was classified as "secret" in the draft stage and many events in the timeline were redacted by the FBI before the timeline was offered as evidence in a criminal trial.

Redaction is used to secrete facts and obfucate known truths that contradict
faked or fabricated evidence.
Note the timeline PDF page 1 begins with event
number 1450.
http://www.historycommons.org/sourcedocuments/2001/pdfs/fbi911timeline106-210.pdf
redactions pg1
event 1443
event 1445
redactions pg 2
event 1451
event 1452
event 1460
redactions pg 3
event 1464
event 1468
event 1469
event 1470
event 1474
event 1479
redactions pg 4
event 1483
event 1486
event 1488
event 1490
In fact the first 10 pages of this 105 page "terrorist timeline"
contains 30 complete line redactions, meaning 30 pieces of evidence
were completely excised from the terrorist timeline.
If the government and the FBI are being completely honest with the
American public and submitting this honest evidence in a federal terrorism
trial why are events of the terrorists activities being classified as SECRET
and redacted ?
THIS is evidence of fakery Twinstead.

 

[TJM]

Redaction is used to secrete facts and obfucate known truths that contradict faked or fabricated evidence.

As it's understood by conspiracy theorists, that is.

 

[Fonebone]

As it's understood by conspiracy theorists, that is.

And now we know how it's misunderstood by the simpletons as well-

 

[TJM]

And now we know how it's misunderstood by the simpletons as well-

Don't be so hard on truthers. They're sensitive.

 

[Fonebone]

Don't be so hard on truthers. They're sensitive.

I'll hold the truthers to the same standards as I hold the simpletons. Bic ?
Sorry if I offended you.

 

[WildCat]

I'll hold the truthers to the same standards as I hold the simpletons.

Because truthers are just a subset of simpletons?

 

[TJM]

I'll hold the truthers to the same standards as I hold the simpletons. Bic ?

The cognitive dissonance must be a terrible burden. No offence taken.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Read up on the "magic bullet" theory used in the Kennedy assassination that was concocted (manufactured ) to fit the "evidence".

So you're ignorant about the JFK assassination as well? Color me so surprised.

 

[Craig4]

What I find somewhat interesting, is how much more complex the truth is compared to the freakishly bizarre ideas of the 9/11 movement. How we got to the point where 19 guys hijacked four planes and flew or attempted to fly them into buildings is an immensely complex story. In a way I can see how something as simple as a conspiracy theory could be more comfortable than the truth. How we got to this point in history is not an easy narrative to tell or hear. It's a lot easier to go for the false comfort of the conspiracy than apply the rigor and discipline to figure out how this actually happened.

 

[Sabretooth]

What I find somewhat interesting, is how much more complex the truth is compared to the freakishly bizarre ideas of the 9/11 movement. How we got to the point where 19 guys hijacked four planes and flew or attempted to fly them into buildings is an immensely complex story. In a way I can see how something as simple as a conspiracy theory could be more comfortable than the truth. How we got to this point in history is not an easy narrative to tell or hear. It's a lot easier to go for the false comfort of the conspiracy than apply the rigor and discipline to figure out how this actually happened.

I imagine that most Toofer theories orginate while they are tripping on THC.

I mean...

Laserz?! From space?! Dustification?!

CD?! Without Explosives?!

Missiles?!

No planes at all??!?!

Every theory is batcrap crazy.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Really?

It is comprised of fomerly molten steel and concrete?

HOw is it that it is filled with UNBURNED PAPER. do you mean to tell me that paper wouldn't burn at the temperature necessary for steel to be molten?

(pssss.... the "meteorite" is COMPRESSED concrete. It is what is left over when 4 floors compressed.

I'm sure you have already been pwned on this....

Well here's his problem: whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/wtc_meteorite

he got duped hardcore by one of the most blatantly dishonest, and easiest to read through conspiracy kook sites. Whatreallyhappened.com is a cesspit of utter stupid and does an equally terrible job of covering it up.

 

[LightningTeg]

I imagine that most Twoofer theories originate while they are tripping on THC.

I mean...

Laserz?! From space?! Dustification?!

CD?! Without Explosives?!

Missiles?!

No planes at all??!?!

Every theory is batcrap crazy.

You forgot thermite cutting steel beams sideways at a rate at which an explosive would even though thermite is not an explosive. Most people just hear the word thermite and see it in movies and try to connect the dots from there.