Gaza - A 5 Star Concentration Camp *****

[johnHorn]

I will quote some replies to my own thread. I have decided to not respond to some people deliberately.

Does anyone else know that Auschwitz wasn't a concentration camp,* but a death camp. death camp people are sent to die, -- concentration camp people are sent to similar conditions not to die, but to be put for indefinite detention often leading to death camps.
ETA:*Yes the point was to ad suspense, to saying it's a death camp, in this case really is the worst kind of concentration camp, or always depending on weather death-camp and concentration camp are always related terms in that way. anyway the distinction is correct. I would have to be honest and say that if feels somewhat inaccurate but I'll leave the statement for suspense.

--- here is first repsonse to Skeptic.

Close, but not exactly accurate.

There were death camps -- Sobibor, for example -- which were used mainly simply to put Jews to death by gas. There were concentration camps -- Dachau, for example -- where people (including Jews) were imprisoned and, very often, worked / starved / "diseased" to death, but without gas chambers.

Auschwitz-Birkenau was the only camp which was both: it had both gas chambers to immediately kill many of the Jews who arrived, and a concentration camp where those Jews fit to be worked to death instead of being immediately gassed, as well as many other prisoners (Russians, in particular), were put.

This is why there are relatively more witnesses and survivors from Auschwitz than from any other death camp.

Thanks for improving the accuracy of my

ETA:all that is really relivent to this discussion is mentioning what a concentration camp is what a 5 star hotel is... and where gaza is, also a shopping center.

 

[Stout]

it means, i am a free human being capable of being honest, no matter how much bigotry is accepted all over the USA/canada........... or anywhere on this taco stand.


I am here in america, where not even bigotry can make me 'surrender'.

Ie.... Ever see Red Dawn? I would be a wolverine! And as for the divide in the Middle east, i aint siding with the oppressors!!!!!!!!!!!

The UN gave Israel a country, and jeruselem and the creation of gaza (a concentration camp) is not a part of the deal.

Sort of like a citizen of the world then, physically in one place, yet spiritually half way 'round the world amongst the Gazans sharing their pain and urging them down a destructive path in the name of fighting oppression.

Well my friend, you can be like the wolverines, Hamas is always looking for good, willing useful idiots people like you. Just think, you could be Rachael Corrie, but with an AK, vacationing in other people's conflicts.

What ever happened to that poster with the backwards Hebrew in his avatar?

 

[johnHorn]

Israel wasn't founded by the U.N., blame the league of nation actually... both Israel and Palistine are accepted by the U.N..

 

[Bishadi]

So Palestinians are detained in Gaza? POW's? Political prisoners?

It is why the concentration camp exists.

Palestinians are not wanted in palestine by jews who made a country, within a land that is occupied. They are POW's.

Refer to actual cases of concentration camps.

Gaza is an actual concentration camp....Learn from it, and try again.

Wow, the anti-semitism card. Didn't see that one coming.

and i asked a question, that apparently you didnt comprehend.......

How is the rest of the world being affected by Gaza?

i guesss you dont fly much do you. I guess no one told you the towers in NY fell because some pissed on people, strapped on planes and bashed their heads into the building.

Bigots claim it was random act of just terrorist, with nothing to do.

and Is the world affected by Darfur? Sierra Leon? Congo? Eritrea? Afghanistan? Doubtful.

do you have ADD? Seems each time focus is required you try and ring up someone elses, someplace else.......

this thread is about the gaza concentration camp, held by bigots

And yes, Israel is dealing with it.

They deal is, they bigots leave jeruselem and then talking resumes.

When Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al Aqsa Martyrs Bridgade, and so forth lob mortars and missiles,

i hate it too.

i mean, using manuer is just sick. Perhaps tell them that with electricity and water, the electrolysis will release the hydrogen and oxygen and the btu output is 3 times that of gasoline.

and tries to send in suicide bombers into Israel,

kind of like the terrorist of zionism, who bombed british interest (king david hotel) for not allowing the migration of zionist into palestine. In a sense, with gaza (the concentration camp), the zionist can limit the influx of people against the government.

Now i see why the bigots keep the concentration camp as normal, they can eliminate the people who could vote them out of office.

the IDF deal with it quite well.

what is that...... IDiot Fighting force?

people who would die for a religious state? IDF? Sounds like a terrorist org.

Once Hamas ceases with such maleficence, then life will improve for the better for all Gazans.

get the **** out of jeruselem, then israel is making a move in the right direction................. but this world is not the wild world of religious wingnuts can take over, and 'we the people' will just accept it.

 

[Bishadi]

Well my friend, you can be like the wolverines, Hamas is always looking for good, willing useful idiots people like you.

wolverines defended america from invading armies.

civilians who would not give in.


i guess within your country, few have ever known how to defend much of anything. That is probably why defending the oppressed in the concentration camp (gaza) is just absurd to you.

What ever happened to that poster with the backwards Hebrew in his avatar?

i dunno...................... some consider me evil, but live

 

[Bishadi]

Which has nothing to do with Rahm.

just that he is the son, of a bonafide terrorist and had direct access to my president

What?

idiots, think hamas is a combatant group, but the people firing rockets are using manuer to fuel the propulsion of them stupid thing.

fools have no idea what IS actually going on

Do you know how much aide Israel allows into Gaza each month?

they must feed the people within the concentration camp.

You kind of making a case that provides evidence of the CONCENTRATION CAMP

It's a theocracy that wages a proxy war against Israel,

the majority could not spell proxy....................

Your claim is CRAP.

prior to the bigot occupation, they was no unison of such

Why do you say nothing of Egypt who has similar control of Gaza's southern border? Are they fascists and bigots as well?

Israel created the camp, when they removed people from jeruselem/west bank and the countries on the borders would not take in the refugees................. (hence the concentration camp GAZA was born)


What you are ranting is basically the same argument i have about when ww2 ended; why not give the *********** bigots a sand dune in africa (were judaism was born) and let them fight over the moving hills of sand. ie..... ww2 had nothing to do with palestine, but the palestinians are paying for it, far worse than any other body of people on the earth and for over 70 years now!

 

[IDB87]

just that he is the son, of a bonafide terrorist and had direct access to my president

Lol.

idiots, think hamas is a combatant group, but the people firing rockets are using manuer to fuel the propulsion of them stupid thing.

While it's true they aren't as well armed as the IDF, they are certainly still a threat. You can misspell manure all you want, doesn't change the fact that those rockets fly into neighbor hoods and at schools.

they must feed the people within the concentration camp.

Nothing mandates their having to feed the people of Gaza. Regardless, they allow aide into Gaza because they are at war with Hamas, not the people of Gaza.

You kind of making a case that provides evidence of the CONCENTRATION CAMP

How so?

Your claim is CRAP.

How so? Where does Hamas get their weapons?

prior to the bigot occupation, they was no unison of such

Actually since it's inception in the 80s, Iran has been providing funds, training and arms to Hamas.

Israel created the camp, when they removed people from jeruselem/west bank and the countries on the borders would not take in the refugees................. (hence the concentration camp GAZA was born)

You have yet to determine how many people were REMOVED from their homes by Israel, and how many left on their own. If they left on their own, and were refused by Egypt, Syria and Jordan, how does it suddenly become Israel's responsibility?

What you are ranting is basically the same argument i had when ww2 ended; why not give

Nothing was GIVEN to Israel. You don't even know the basic facts.

 

[WildCat]

Gaza is an actual concentration camp....Learn from it, and try again.

And my garage is a portal to another dimension.

 

[bigjelmapro]

It is why the concentration camp exists.

Palestinians are not wanted in palestine by jews who made a country, within a land that is occupied. They are POW's.

And yet, Israel is over 20% Arab.

Gaza is an actual concentration camp....Learn from it, and try again.

and i asked a question, that apparently you didnt comprehend.......

Perhaps you can not use a vague definition of a concentration camp and actually use real-time examples like the ones I provided.

i guesss you dont fly much do you. I guess no one told you the towers in NY fell because some pissed on people, strapped on planes and bashed their heads into the building.

I thought 911 was a mossad inside job. First time I hear that the hijackers were strapped to the outside of the planes.

Bigots claim it was random act of just terrorist, with nothing to do.

And other muppets think it was an act of terrorism motivated by the lip-service paid to the now 11 million Palestinian refugees.

i mean, using manuer is just sick. Perhaps tell them that with electricity and water, the electrolysis will release the hydrogen and oxygen and the btu output is 3 times that of gasoline.

Wtf? You fall down a flight of stairs recently?

Now i see why the bigots keep the concentration camp as normal, they can eliminate the people who could vote them out of office.

And yet Gaza has the highest population growth rate in all the territories. Israel must be doing a piss poor job in eliminating these people, err, Gazans vote who out of office exactly?

get the **** out of jeruselem, then israel is making a move in the right direction................. but this world is not the wild world of religious wingnuts can take over, and 'we the people' will just accept it.

I love hitting the nerve of loony CT'ers.

 

[Thunder]

delete

 

[Bishadi]

And yet, Israel is over 20% Arab.

but cant vote judaism out of office. Do you remember netanyahu's campaign? "loyalty or no citizenship".................

The religious state governs not the people. it is why they want jeruselem.

Perhaps you can not use a vague definition of a concentration camp and actually use real-time examples like the ones I provided.

quite the opposite; Gaza is real-time and you like to hold the OLD time. It is kind of religious in adherance of belief over reality.

I thought 911 was a mossad inside job. First time I hear that the hijackers were strapped to the outside of the planes.

"strapped on".

The head bangers at the head bangers wall, beat the outside of their heads to the outside of the wall. I guess i should spell out that yoursad perhaps becuase i didnt gossad with the conspiracy crap of mossad?

And other muppets think it was an act of terrorism motivated by the lip-service paid to the now 11 million Palestinian refugees.

11 million refugees?

wow!

Wtf? You fall down a flight of stairs recently?

no, i just like equality.

And yet Gaza has the highest population growth rate in all the territories.

lots of sex .................. good! Procreation GOOD!
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Israel must be doing a piss poor job in eliminating these people,

concentration camps fence in people, like dogs and mistreat them.

isnt that why GAZA is called a concentration camp?

err, Gazans vote who out of office exactly?

if the 11 million had equal voting rights, you can bet the political climate would turn over. But the people who dont believe in equal rights aint going to let the 11 million or even the 20% of israeli citizens that are not jewish, vote with equal count.

I love hitting the nerve of loony CT'ers.

either you are trying to insult me or you are playing with yourself?

 

[Thunder]

but cant vote judaism out of office. Do you remember netanyahu's campaign? "loyalty or no citizenship".................

The religious state governs not the people. it is why they want jeruselem.

do you feel as strongly about the Islamic Republic of Iran, the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia?

 

[Bishadi]

do you feel as strongly about the Islamic Republic of Iran, the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia?

Strongly?

I hate the idea that 'right now' on this earth, there is a concentration camps (GAZA) and 'we the people' have been paying for it, for about a half a century.

As for iran, russian, afghan and the SA's................. this thread aint on them subjects.

Every city in america let alone neighborhood and household has an issue or 2. None are perfect. Heck ever read any of my posts? I aint perfect.

but if you freeze water, you can walk on it too.

Gaza is a bonafide concentration camp and about as rude an atrocity that any of and within this generation should be doing what can be done to stop it.

ie..... no mo funding for bigotry................ PERIOD.

the bumper sticker for this issue could read; "save a life, stop funding israel"

So either a return to the seeking of peace is the forefront of the peace talks, or just stop sending them money......................

and from what i can see, israel is israel, but jeruselem is NOT ISRAEL and that very first argument must be levied and addressed, point blank.

for example; any non-profit creation can begin a campaign that renders the dome of the rock a historical landmark to mankind (one of the oldest standing building in the region), then there will NEVER be a circumstance of religious wingnuts trying to take the site.

Then the zionist would have no reason to claim jeruselem for the purpose of religious intents on the mount.

Or try; make the dome a landmark, that can never be touched and then make jeruselem a religious site for all and the UN protects it.

there are many ideas but on the current path of hypocracy and bigotry, the world is poised for a fireworks show.

i cant stop it..................... can you? Would you?

what is your idea?

 

[Thunder]

Heck ever read any of my posts? I aint perfect.

ok

 

[bigjelmapro]

but cant vote judaism out of office. Do you remember netanyahu's campaign? "loyalty or no citizenship".................

Applies only to new citizens, not retroactively to Israeli Arabs. Don't see how this is different from other loyalty oaths.

Try again.

quite the opposite; Gaza is real-time and you like to hold the OLD time. It is kind of religious in adherance of belief over reality.

There's no 'opposite' or a case you've presented it as being a concentration camp by the examples I provided. Merely a vague definition.

Try again.

The head bangers at the head bangers wall, beat the outside of their heads to the outside of the wall. I guess i should spell out that yoursad perhaps becuase i didnt gossad with the conspiracy crap of mossad? 11 million refugees?

Wow, and you blame me for not understanding based on this drivel posted above?

concentration camps fence in people, like dogs and mistreat them.

isnt that why GAZA is called a concentration camp?

So any fence along a internationally recognized border demarcation is a concentration camp. Gotcha. You want real-world examples where such fencing exists and are no viewed as a concentration camp or you going to try a bit harder?

if the 11 million had equal voting rights, you can bet the political climate would turn over. But the people who dont believe in equal rights aint going to let the 11 million or even the 20% of israeli citizens that are not jewish, vote with equal count.

Israeli Arabs can vote for whomever they wish in Israel.

either you are trying to insult me or you are playing with yourself?

Nah, you're just a bit slow. Apparently the concept of insult only goes one way for you.

 

[Skeptic]

How does one vote "Judaism" out of office? You can vote Jews out of office, of course, but "Judaism"?

 

[Safe-Keeper]

isnt that why GAZA is called a concentration camp?

Given that it's you, not us, who insist on using this term, I don't understand the question. All you've contributed so far is "so there's this area that's next to Israel and I think Israel is treating it badly". You've added a few other qualifiers, such as that the Gaza residents receive aid from Israel ( ), but I'm still pretty much in the dark.

 

[Thunder]

"Gaza is a concentration camp" makes as much sense as the term "Islamofascism".

 

[Safe-Keeper]

I suppose North Korea is also a concentration camp in Bishadi's eyes.

- It's fenced off from South Korea. Try to flee North Korea and you face physical barricades, mine fields and armed guards.
- The South Korean government treats North Korea with hostility. It is of particular worry that they treat the nation like a concentration camp by sending large amounts of humanitarian aid across the border.
- I live there, and will never surrender.
- The residents are the widows and orphans of people murdered by NATO in the Korean War, and then thrown out of South Korea by the evil Koreanist regime.
- I don't want to hear anything about lampshades.

ETA: Hmm, come to think of it, we Norsemen, and the rest of the European nations with Russian borders, have an extensive military presence guarding our borders with Russia, and anyone trying to cross without permission are detained by armed guards. If you consider the economic hardships of the Russian Federation compared to the wealth of Europe, it's quite apparent that we're exploiting the Russians by walling them off and turning their nation into a concentration camp.

 

[mortimer]

I suppose North Korea is also a concentration camp in Bishadi's eyes.

- It's fenced off from South Korea. Try to flee North Korea and you face physical barricades, mine fields and armed guards.
- The South Korean government treats North Korea with hostility. It is of particular worry that they treat the nation like a concentration camp by sending large amounts of humanitarian aid across the border.
- I live there, and will never surrender.
- The residents are the widows and orphans of people murdered by NATO in the Korean War, and then thrown out of South Korea by the evil Koreanist regime.
- I don't want to hear anything about lampshades.

ETA: Hmm, come to think of it, we Norsemen, and the rest of the European nations with Russian borders, have an extensive military presence guarding our borders with Russia, and anyone trying to cross without permission are detained by armed guards. If you consider the economic hardships of the Russian Federation compared to the wealth of Europe, it's quite apparent that we're exploiting the Russians by walling them off and turning their nation into a concentration camp.

There is also a fence along the southern US-Mexico border. That makes Mexico a concentration camp. Or the US a concentration camp. Guess it depends on which side of the fence you're on.