OK, so how do thermite demolitions work again?

[TJM]

Let's see those terrorist plans then. Are they on a spiral notebook or something?

What the hell does that have to do with your assertion that molten steel was found in regard to all three buildings? Dodge fail.

 

[Thunder]

Let's see those terrorist plans then. Are they on a spiral notebook or something?

translation: "I have no evidence for my assertions, and I feel no need to provide evidence for my assertions. Only supporters of the official story have to provide evidence. Truthers do not."

thanks for playing.

 

[A W Smith]

Lemme guess, you want me to whip out molten steel from the WTC? You're just acting silly.

Now you are just being evasive and pedant. I want you to direct us to physical evidence of molten steel. Cite it. Wherever it may exist.

 

[jaydeehess]

Sounds like it would have been a good idea to work nights.

Sometimes did, sometimes did not. However, every time we were either there before everyone went home or still there when the day workers got back.
In the few instances when it was done within the overnight period we always had security people (in one building that meant RCMP) curious about the devices being installed

 

[tempesta29]

Now you are just being evasive and pedant. I want you to direct us to physical evidence of molten steel. Cite it. Wherever it may exist.

Please quote where I claimed to have such physical evidence.

 

[A W Smith]

Let's see those terrorist plans then. Are they on a spiral notebook or something?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5810097534812155210#

 

[tempesta29]

translation: "I have no evidence for my assertions, and I feel no need to provide evidence for my assertions. Only supporters of the official story have to provide evidence. Truthers do not."

thanks for playing.

So you have no terrorists plans then I take it?

 

[A W Smith]

Please quote where I claimed to have such physical evidence.

So you have not seen nor can direct us to any physical evidence for the claims you make. Thank you for admitting that.

 

[TJM]

You're a rude and obnoxious poster, so I don't feel I owe you anything. If you haven't read the reports of molten steel by now then you don't even belong in the discussion. Go look them up yourself.

Please quote where I claimed to have such physical evidence.

Right there.

Lost focus again?

 

[tempesta29]

Right there.

Lost focus again?

Is a report physical evidence?

 

[TJM]

Is a report physical evidence?

Yes, as matter of fact, they are. Please show your documentation.

 

[A W Smith]

Is a report physical evidence?

Its painful to watch you admit over and over again you cannot direct us to physical evidence that supports your claims, You can stop now, Will you be posting anything new soon? Or just the same old lame talking points I predicted you would post by your third post at the JREF forums?

 

[tempesta29]

Yes, as matter of fact, they are. Please show your documentation.

Google is your friend. If you haven't read the accounts by now then you might as well find another, newer topic.

Its painful to watch you admit over and over again you cannot direct us to physical evidence that supports your claims, You can stop now, Will you be posting anything new soon? Or just the same old lame talking points I predicted you would post by your third post at the JREF forums?

Did you ever even counter my initial post? How can the upper sections of the Twin Towers not decelerate when they encounter greater resistance?

How can WTC 7 accelerate at the rate of gravity for 2.25 seconds without its columns being severed?

 

[TJM]

Google is your friend. If you haven't read the accounts by now then you might as well find another, newer topic.

Ah. Google is your source. Who knew.

Accounts aren't reports, by the way. Please show your documentation.

 

[A W Smith]

Did you ever even counter my initial post? How can the upper sections of the Twin Towers not decelerate when they encounter greater resistance?

How can WTC 7 accelerate at the rate of gravity for 2.25 seconds without its columns being severed?

Remember my reply to your third post with all the links? Two of which contained links to MIT physics lessons? Golly gee tempesta I guess all i can say is "Google is your friend. If you haven't read the accounts by now then you might as well find another, newer topic."

 

[tempesta29]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SLIzSCt_cg&feature=player_embedded#

Greg Fuchek, vice-president of sales for LinksPoint Inc., which supplied some of the computer equipment used to identify human remains at Ground Zero:

In the first few weeks, sometimes when a worker would pull a steel beam from the wreckage, the end of the beam would be dripping molten steel

Herb Trimpe was the ground zero chaplain:

I talked to many contractors and they said they actually saw molten metal trapped, beams had just totally had been melted because of the heat. So this was the kind of heat that was going on when those airplanes hit the upper floors. It was just demolishing heat.

A Messenger-Inquirer report notes that firefighter "Toolie" O'Toole said that some of the beams lifted from deep within the catacombs of Ground Zero by cranes were "dripping from the molten steel."

It certainly appears that steel melted and that it was not some other metal. Steel beams that are molten is molten steel, just to clarify. Of course you want it to be aluminum, but it wasn't. Not only do we have witnesses confirming steel beams themselves dripping molten, but molten aluminum does not glow brightly enough to even be visible until very high temperatures anyway, temperatures too high for an office fire. And there is FAR more steel than aluminum in these construction. We were described rivers and pools of molten steel. And what about WTC 7? Those fires were hardly raging. We're to believe that such a fire could even produce glowing hot aluminum? It takes about 1800 degrees to do that.

Something tells me none of you would even question this if it didn't absolutely discredit the official story.

 

[TJM]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SLIzSCt_cg&feature=player_embedded#

Greg Fuchek, vice-president of sales for LinksPoint Inc., which supplied some of the computer equipment used to identify human remains at Ground Zero:


Herb Trimpe was the ground zero chaplain:


A Messenger-Inquirer report notes that firefighter "Toolie" O'Toole said that some of the beams lifted from deep within the catacombs of Ground Zero by cranes were "dripping from the molten steel."

It certainly appears that steel melted and that it was not some other metal. Steel beams that are molten is molten steel, just to clarify. Of course you want it to be aluminum, but it wasn't. Not only do we have witnesses confirming steel beams themselves dripping molten, but molten aluminum does not glow brightly enough to even be visible until very high temperatures anyway, temperatures too high for an office fire. And there is FAR more steel than aluminum in these construction. We were described rivers and pools of molten steel. And what about WTC 7? Those fires were hardly raging. We're to believe that such a fire could even produce glowing hot aluminum? It takes about 1800 degrees to do that.

Something tells me none of you would even question this if it didn't absolutely discredit the official story.

That's nice. Please show us your documentation.

 

[beachnut]

... It certainly appears that steel melted ...

And you have zero evidence. What was your point? You post nonsense based on zero evidence. Is that a lie or just ignorance?

How does thermite work in demolitions? Why were zero thermite products or evidence found at the WTC? Good luck.

You have no idea how hot melted steel is, do you?

 

[JamesB]

Hmm, I watched Mythbusters try to cut a car in half with 100lbs of thermite, and it lasted for about 30 seconds. So how much thermite would you need to use to keep steel melted for 6 weeks?

 

[A W Smith]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SLIzSCt_cg&feature=player_embedded#

Didn't see one puddle of solidified formerly molten "steel" in that video. But hey welcome to 2007
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&h...f87efc6f926f13

Greg Fuchek, vice-president of sales for LinksPoint Inc., which supplied some of the computer equipment used to identify human remains at Ground Zero:

Human remains? sorry, Not steel.

Herb Trimpe was the ground zero chaplain:

A chaplain? Does he have the molten metal stowed away in his pyx?? Chaplain =/= metallurgist, all he said was metal/

A Messenger-Inquirer report notes that firefighter "Toolie" O'Toole said that some of the beams lifted from deep within the catacombs of Ground Zero by cranes were "dripping from the molten steel."

Third hand anecdotal report of a fireman who wasn't even operating the crane that pulled the beam. The very definition of anecdotal

It certainly appears that steel melted and that it was not some other metal. Steel beams that are molten is molten steel, just to clarify. Of course you want it to be aluminum, but it wasn't. Not only do we have witnesses confirming steel beams themselves dripping molten, but molten aluminum does not glow brightly enough to even be visible until very high temperatures anyway, temperatures too high for an office fire. And there is FAR more steel than aluminum in these construction. We were described rivers and pools of molten steel. And what about WTC 7? Those fires were hardly raging. We're to believe that such a fire could even produce glowing hot aluminum? It takes about 1800 degrees to do that.

Something tells me none of you would even question this if it didn't absolutely discredit the official story.

"Appearances" can be deceiving. Could be anything with a melting point far below that of steel but heat not unusual in a fire, Could be glass, Lots of glass in the world trace centers. How would you even maintain temperatures sufficient to keep steel molten for weeks? I thought you were advocating explosives? not thermite?