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OK, so how do thermite demolitions work again?

tempesta29 said:
And what the hell do civilian office workers know about maintenance? Do you really think in their 9 to 5 grind they're thinking about whether or not a guy with equipment might be planting bombs in the building?
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Having worked in several buildings AS an electronic tech I KNOW first hand that employees always ask about what I am installing, often to the point of inquiring about details of how the devive works



LOL. Yes, actually. Since I know explosives were used based on the descents of the upper sections, I know that security must have either failed on a massive scale or have been complicit.
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Youy admittedly have no training or education to make such a determination so your conclusions are irellevanmt
 
Tempesta29 is arguing that the security at the WTC, which was a number 1 terror target in the USA, either utterly failed to do their job...or were "in on it".

does he have any evidence? nope.
 
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I find it extremely suspicious that Marvin Bush was a principal for the security company of the WTC.
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When did Marvin Bush have any relationship with EJ Electric? Marvin Bush was an executive of Securacom, now Stratasec, in a different city until 2000, and left the company afterwards. But Securacom was not "the security company of the WTC". EJ Electric was, together with the PAPD.

tempesta29 said:
I also find the power down at the WTC very suspicious.
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What makes a power down at the upper floors of WTC2 suspicious?
 
tempesta29 said:
I never cited a specific number of charges.

The collapses of these buildings preclude their having been caused by fire.
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Really? Show me the math.

PS. I love fire, and have been studying it for the better part of a decade. Please, show me the math.
 
tempesta29 said:
I hear what you're saying. Perhaps the risk of being caught with explosives has been overstated. I'm not saying it's an easy operation to conduct in secrecy, but there are ways to minimize risk, who does secrecy better than US black ops? I'm not accusing Time Warner Cable of installing these explosives. I'm accusing covert elements of the US government.

I find it extremely suspicious that Marvin Bush was a principal for the security company of the WTC. I also find the power down at the WTC very suspicious. If the security company were simply a government front, and you scheduled maintenance or a security overhaul, you could cover up your operation like that. It's speculative, but it's feasible. You may disagree.
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Actually we suck at it. Nixon couldn't even break into a psychiatrist's office without getting caught. Stalin knew about the Manhattan Project before Truman did. The CIA tried for decades and couldn't even kill or overthrow a tinpot dictator 60 miles from Miami. The Iran-Contra operation didn't involve more than a handful of knowledgeable people and a couple of million dollars and resulted in Congressional hearings within months. Hell, we can't even keep tens of thousands of classified documents off of Wikileaks.

I am reminded of a famous quote from William F. Buckley.

“It had all the earmarks of a CIA operation; the bomb killed everybody in the room except the intended target!”
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JamesB said:
Actually we suck at it. Nixon couldn't even break into a psychiatrist's office without getting caught. Stalin knew about the Manhattan Project before Truman did. The CIA tried for decades and couldn't even kill or overthrow a tinpot dictator 60 miles from Miami. The Iran-Contra operation didn't involve more than a handful of knowledgeable people and a couple of million dollars and resulted in Congressional hearings within months. Hell, we can't even keep tens of thousands of classified documents off of Wikileaks.

I am reminded of a famous quote from William F. Buckley.
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and Clinton wouldn't get oral in the oval without the world finding out while he was still in office, And that was a secret between only two consenting adults!
 
Well, without actually going through all the posts in this thread, I'll hazard to add just a quick summary of my own experience with Thermite. I deployed three thermite grenades in my time in the US Army, and although each one burned as you would expect an incendiary device to burn, not a single one of them exploded. Sorry truthers, explosives are used in the role of demolitions, incendiary devices, are not. But hey, what do I know, I only actually handled and used the stuff. I'm sure some basement truther commando can pull up a link to a youtube video that proves me not only wrong, but implicates me as a NWO government loyalist shill disinfo agent...

Rolls
 
tempesta29 said:
CHENEY: Though it doesn't matter what crashes into the Pentagon because there are no videos of it, so who cares right? Yeah! Anyone want to shoot my good friend and not apologize for it? I did. It was awesome!

And really, you're implying that anyone believes that the original intention was to crash a plane in a field in Pennsylvania? Three planes hit high profile targets and you're insinuating that I and others believe the last plane was meant to hit the dirt in Nowheresville, PA?
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Your posts are great entertainment, please, don't stop! ;)
 
jaydeehess said:
Having worked in several buildings AS an electronic tech I KNOW first hand that employees always ask about what I am installing, often to the point of inquiring about details of how the devive works
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Sounds like it would have been a good idea to work nights.

Youy admittedly have no training or education to make such a determination so your conclusions are irellevanmt
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Umm, well I did make that determination. Either it's true or false. Saying the above however, makes no stride in proving either. If you disagree with me then just explain yourself. This is just a discussion.
 
Rolls said:
Well, without actually going through all the posts in this thread, I'll hazard to add just a quick summary of my own experience with Thermite. I deployed three thermite grenades in my time in the US Army, and although each one burned as you would expect an incendiary device to burn, not a single one of them exploded. Sorry truthers, explosives are used in the role of demolitions, incendiary devices, are not. But hey, what do I know, I only actually handled and used the stuff. I'm sure some basement truther commando can pull up a link to a youtube video that proves me not only wrong, but implicates me as a NWO government loyalist shill disinfo agent...

Rolls
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I never claimed thermite exploded. This is pretty well understood at this point. Molten steel found at the sites of all 3 collapsed buildings seems to suggest that a strong incendiary was used in some way.
 
tempesta29 said:
Molten steel found at the sites of all 3 collapsed buildings seems to suggest that a strong incendiary was used in some way.
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provide evidence for molten steel at GZ...or forever be known as just another truther who makes BS claims with zero proof.
 
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provide evidence for molten steel at GZ...or forever be known as just another truther who makes BS claims with zero proof.
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<snip> so I don't feel I owe you anything. If you haven't read the reports of molten steel by now then you don't even belong in the discussion. Go look them up yourself.

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Thunder, tempesta29 and anyone else this may apply to - enough with the name calling/bickering. Post on topic and address the argument vs attack the arguer (rule 11, rule 12).
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tempesta29 said:
<snip>, so I don't feel I owe you anything. If you haven't read the reports of molten steel by now then you don't even belong in the discussion. Go look them up yourself.
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We don't want anecdotes sport, We want physical evidence.
 
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tempesta29 said:
<snip>, so I don't feel I owe you anything. If you haven't read the reports of molten steel by now then you don't even belong in the discussion. Go look them up yourself.
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Troother reports mean zilch.
 
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