OK, so how do thermite demolitions work again?

davefoc said:
My apologies, perhaps this is obvious, but is this thread still about about thermite demolition of the WTC or is it about thermite plus explosive demolition of the WTC or is it about any CD theory of the WTC?
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We don't know. Tempesta has yet to present any facts or a theory.
 
I am sure almost everybody participating in this thread was aware of this video of Richard Gage and his cardboard boxes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFVi4qbN2jM

I wasn't until I participated in this thread. Wow, is it possible that a lot of the truthers do not understand how incredibly stupid that video was? Is this kind of thing part of the driver for the 9-11 CD nonsense?

I saw the R. Mackey video before I saw this video. One unfortunate thing about the R. Mackey video is that it is probably too technical and as such inaccessible to anybody that could not immediately look at that video and realize it was stupid. Refuting that video for a less technical audience just requires a simple discussion of the problems with scaling accompanied by some kind of drawings or video.
 
Originally Posted by tempesta29
The concrete core is being blown into dust.

Tempesta29- would you kindly provide us with photographic evidence of the WTC towers having a concrete core.
 
twinstead said:
Did we ever establish how thermite demolitions work?
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I do not believe so. We have been sidetracked by tempesta's thermite + explosives contention and concentrated on the explosives part.

In the opening page DC actually linked to an actual 9/11 conspiracist that managed to sever vertical steel with thermite. Closest thing to backing Jones that has ever been seen. It does still not address many problems with the thermite cutting CD contention though, not the least of which is proper timing to sever columns at many locations over no more than 30 seconds. I posted on this in post #40 and one or two after that.

tempesta has not been clear about what the role of thermite is, at least not that I recall. Now that we are onto pulverising concrete and throwing steel at a horizontal velocity of 125 MPH (where that number comes from has yet to be shown) we must have abandoned the topic of thermite in this thread entitled "...thermite demolitions...??

I asked for a thread spilt but nothing happened and it would be a very large endevour to try to do so now so it might as well remain as is.
 
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jaydeehess said:
I do not believe so. We have been sidetracked by tempesta's thermite + explosives contention and concentrated on the explosives part.

In the opening page DC actually linked to an actual 9/11 conspiracist that managed to sever vertical steel with thermite. Closest thing to backing Jones that has ever been seen. It does still not address many problems with the thermite cutting CD contention though, not the least of which is proper timing to sever columns at many locations over no more than 30 seconds. I posted on this in post #40 and one or two after that.

tempesta has not been clear about what the role of thermite is, at least not that I recall. Now that we are onto pulverising concrete and throwing steel at a horizontal velocity of 125 MPH (where that number comes from has yet to be shown) we must have abandoned the topic of thermite in this thread entitled "...thermite demolitions...??

I asked for a thread spilt but nothing happened and it would be a very large endevour to try to do so now so it might as well remain as is.
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One would think that establishing how thermite demolitions would work would be job number 1 for proponents of thermite demolitions of the WTC, but that's just me.
 
One would think that establishing how thermite demolitions would work would be job number 1 for proponents of thermite demolitions of the WTC, but that's just me.
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Yes. One would, wouldn't one. You're not alone there. However the Term*te concept has the exact same hurdles to get over as the explosives one does (and more). The mechanism/shielding/whatever used for protecting it from the impacts and ensuing fires must remain unnoticed to the untrained eye in a public place filled with people who are already familiar with that space. Therm*te adds the extra problem of the simple fact that a whole lot more material (mass-wise) has to be hidden making the protective mechanism/shielding/whatever that much larger.

I have yet to see anything from anyone that meets those very basic yet critical requirements. I'm still not holding my breath waiting.
 
OK, so the use of therm*te for causing the collapse of the WTC has now been proven except that:
1. No plausible methodology for the installation of the therm*te has been produced.
2. No signs of beams cut by therm*te were found.
3. No mechanism for igniting the therm*te was found.
4. No plausible mechanism for synchronizing the failure of structural elements cut by therm*te has been produced.
5. No individuals associated with purchasing, installing or igniting the therm*te have been found.
6. There were no signs of therm*te type burning in any of the videos of the WTC collapse.
7. There are no reports before or after the WTC collapse of anybody using therm*te in the controlled demolition of a structure.

However there is a video showing that with a sufficient amount of therm*te and the attachment of an appropriate device therm*te can cut through a steel beam.
 
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