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Working On Book about Paranormal State

kirby said:
Seeking victims of/or participants in fake paranormal reality programs. Our book, Paranormal Lies (working title), which already has a publisher, is in its (almost) final draft. Please contact us if you have any information concerning fake paranormal programs. We will protect you and get you the justice that you deserve. or if you have any info you would like to share
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There's a redundant word in there.
 
kirby said:
we have them visit both medical doctors and mental health professionals and get them a full check up right off the bat
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Aside from the fact that "mental health professional" does not equal "psychiatrist equipped to rule out psychological disorders" and "medical doctor" does not equal "specialist equipped to rule out neurological disorder," I find this difficult to believe.

Are you saying that everyone whom you have ultimately gone in to help because of demon possession or some such has gone to both an MD and a Psychiatrist and said "I think I might be possessed by a demon; can you tell me if there isn't something else wrong first," and then undergone all the tests necessary?

As I said, I doubt it, but if I'm wrong, then who paid for it all?


kirby said:
no reason really excepting demons as real is a matter of faith mine is none better or worse then yours my friend/QUOTE]Not believing in demons is not remotely a matter of faith. And believing in demons is separate from believing in demonic possession.
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kirby said:
I never charge ,
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So since you don't charge, it leaves you off the hook when you target those that are vulnerable and purposely taint the memories of their passed on loved ones?

if PRS and Paranormal State have done nothing shady why do they worry so much about people taking a close look at them would it be could it be they have much to hide
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I don't see Ryan as worried. He's doesn't partake in producing and editting the show.

Also, did you notice how he still left all your posts up on the PRS forum? You may have been banned but none of your posts were deleted. Remember, the ones where you took on an alias and did all your spamming? If he was so "worried" of you exposing him and the show of these never ending atrocities, why does he leave it up there for all to read?

PS Topper for your info I no longer do readings just have not updated my sites
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Who's "Topper"?
 
Dmarie said:
So since you don't charge, it leaves you off the hook when you target those that are vulnerable and purposely taint the memories of their passed on loved ones?



I don't see Ryan as worried. He's doesn't partake in producing and editting the show.

Also, did you notice how he still left all your posts up on the PRS forum? You may have been banned but none of your posts were deleted. Remember, the ones where you took on an alias and did all your spamming? If he was so "worried" of you exposing him and the show of these never ending atrocities, why does he leave it up there for all to read?



Who's "Topper"?
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The fact is that when the book comes out we will produce enough proof that almost each and every episode will be exposed for having faked proof,stage scenes and misleading information and we will show using Ryans own words that he keeps changing his story
 
Garrette said:
Aside from the fact that "mental health professional" does not equal "psychiatrist equipped to rule out psychological disorders" and "medical doctor" does not equal "specialist equipped to rule out neurological disorder," I find this difficult to believe.

Are you saying that everyone whom you have ultimately gone in to help because of demon possession or some such has gone to both an MD and a Psychiatrist and said "I think I might be possessed by a demon; can you tell me if there isn't something else wrong first," and then undergone all the tests necessary?

As I said, I doubt it, but if I'm wrong, then who paid for it all?


kirby said:
no reason really excepting demons as real is a matter of faith mine is none better or worse then yours my friend/QUOTE]Not believing in demons is not remotely a matter of faith. And believing in demons is separate from believing in demonic possession.
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There are man within the medical world who has a world veiw that excepts the possibility that demon and demonic procession is real
If the family can pay they pay if not I try to find church organizations to cover the costs
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kirby said:
The fact is that when the book comes out we will produce enough proof that almost each and every episode will be exposed for having faked proof,stage scenes and misleading information and we will show using Ryans own words that he keeps changing his story
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Do you need an editor for your book? I could do it for you.
 
kirby said:
There are man within the medical world who has a world veiw that excepts the possibility that demon and demonic procession is real
If the family can pay they pay if not I try to find church organizations to cover the costs
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You have admitted that belief in demons is purely faith-based.

Now you admit that you have someone who shares that faith make determinations if some phenomenon is associated with that faith.

Do you see no problem here?

ETA: You say one man. Is this one man qualified for both neurological and psychological evaluations?
 
kirby said:
The fact is that when the book comes out we will produce enough proof that almost each and every episode will be exposed for having faked proof,stage scenes and misleading information and we will show using Ryans own words that he keeps changing his story
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Has anybody affiliated with the show ever actually stated, explicitly, that these things of which you accuse them did not in fact occur? If so, please cite the statements.
 
daSkeptic said:
Has anybody affiliated with the show ever actually stated, explicitly, that these things of which you accuse them did not in fact occur? If so, please cite the statements.
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yes they have ryan in his book states that everything his show does and by the way he is a producer on the show is real outside of a very few editing errors , Chip Coffey states that it is a 100% real at least up to when he left the show , Topper a PRS insider for the 1st 3 years says it is 100 % real in fact everyone I have talked to says 100& real { each time they do I think of all the crap we have uncovered}
 
Garrette said:
You have admitted that belief in demons is purely faith-based.

Now you admit that you have someone who shares that faith make determinations if some phenomenon is associated with that faith.

Do you see no problem here?

ETA: You say one man. Is this one man qualified for both neurological and psychological evaluations?
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sorry dear friend my typo should had been many not man

not everyone who does this work is in the same boat with people like Bob Lawson
 
kirby said:
thank you the book is done and has been turned in
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Speaking of books, you might try Sagan's Demon-Haunted World; it doesn't concern the demons you're on about, but well worth the read for a bit of perspective.
 
Interesting. You don't like Ryan Buell, Bob Larson or others who do the same thing you do. Why is that?
 
imjohn said:
Interesting. You don't like Ryan Buell, Bob Larson or others who do the same thing you do. Why is that?
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Do not persomaly dislike neater Rev Lawson or Mr Buell what I do dislkie is that Rev Lawson has been exposed as a fake many times ove just google him and the same can be said for Mr Buell just google paranormal state fake and see the number of hits you get
 
kirby said:
sorry dear friend my typo should had been many not man

not everyone who does this work is in the same boat with people like Bob Lawson
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The objection remains the same.

Garrette said:
You have admitted that belief in demons is purely faith-based.

Now you admit that you have someone who shares that faith make determinations if some phenomenon is associated with that faith.

Do you see no problem here?
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So why are they fakes and you aren't?

Do you have any evidence that your supernatural goings on are any more real than other folks supernatural goings on in the shows you dislike?
 
Marcus said:
Funny how just a few words can provide so much information about a poster.
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my faith teaches that there is a war going on one that is light and goodness vr darkness and evil Christ taught as much on demons then on any other subject
 
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